Damn Phil.
I don’t even want to diet down right now when I see shit like this.
I seriously hate Levrone.
In the good way of course.
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
[quote]Silkdagger wrote:
is he even close to natural? [/quote]
Keep your head down.
This will probably be the most radical body transformation of all times.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Damn Phil.
I don’t even want to diet down right now when I see shit like this.[/quote]
They need microphones can’t hear shit.
[quote]Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural? [/quote]
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…
[quote]bicepenvy wrote:
Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…[/quote]
This post is ridiculous. The real truth is most of us don’t give a shit. We don’t look at people and immediately start asking, “are you natural?”. It isn’t a concern at all.
In fact, I would go as far as to say that the people who do worry about shit like that are the least developed people in the room and they do that in order to make themselves feel better.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…
This post is ridiculous. The real truth is most of us don’t give a shit. We don’t look at people and immediately start asking, “are you natural?”. It isn’t a concern at all.
In fact, I would go as far as to say that the people who do worry about shit like that are the least developed people in the room and they do that in order to make themselves feel better.[/quote]
Yeah… Juiced or not, I doubt anyone besides Levrone, would be able to even come close to that kind of transformation.
I stopped caring if people juiced themselfs after about 1 month of training…
[quote]bicepenvy wrote:
Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…[/quote]
You might be right, but then you could also be talking out of your ass. Was Levrone clean when he was a monster at the O? Not a chance. But, having been at 250-260 for years, it is not at all preposterous that he could get back there. Simply put, he is one of the most gifted genetic freaks on the planet.
As for Skip, I don’t really care. He has great genetics either way, is a nice guy, and in any case I don’t really see 215 and ripped as being unattainable naturally. I got to 240+ naturally, so I don’t really see a problem with it. If you’re at 240 and lean, then stage ready you’re going to be about 215 +/- 5 lbs. If i could get to 250+ and lean, I could get stage ready at 225 +/- 5 lbs, cutting naturally, depending on how lean I was when I started. I doubt I will, I hate cardio too much and I hate plain chicken breasts. Big deal. People pay entirely too much attention to steroids and completely undercut what is possible with a decade plus of hard consistent work and 24/7 dedication.
[quote]asusvenus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…
This post is ridiculous. The real truth is most of us don’t give a shit. We don’t look at people and immediately start asking, “are you natural?”. It isn’t a concern at all.
In fact, I would go as far as to say that the people who do worry about shit like that are the least developed people in the room and they do that in order to make themselves feel better.
Yeah… Juiced or not, I doubt anyone besides Levrone, would be able to even come close to that kind of transformation.
I stopped caring if people juiced themselfs after about 1 month of training…
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Ditto this. Who fucking cares?
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…
You might be right, but then you could also be talking out of your ass. Was Levrone clean when he was a monster at the O? Not a chance. But, having been at 250-260 for years, it is not at all preposterous that he could get back there. Simply put, he is one of the most gifted genetic freaks on the planet.
As for Skip, I don’t really care. He has great genetics either way, is a nice guy, and in any case I don’t really see 215 and ripped as being unattainable naturally. I got to 240+ naturally, so I don’t really see a problem with it. If you’re at 240 and lean, then stage ready you’re going to be about 215 +/- 5 lbs. If i could get to 250+ and lean, I could get stage ready at 225 +/- 5 lbs, cutting naturally, depending on how lean I was when I started. I doubt I will, I hate cardio too much and I hate plain chicken breasts. Big deal. People pay entirely too much attention to steroids and completely undercut what is possible with a decade plus of hard consistent work and 24/7 dedication.[/quote]
I guess you’re right, afterall, all of these pro athletes gear because it DOESN’T work. I get it now, my bad.
[quote]bicepenvy wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…
You might be right, but then you could also be talking out of your ass. Was Levrone clean when he was a monster at the O? Not a chance. But, having been at 250-260 for years, it is not at all preposterous that he could get back there. Simply put, he is one of the most gifted genetic freaks on the planet.
As for Skip, I don’t really care. He has great genetics either way, is a nice guy, and in any case I don’t really see 215 and ripped as being unattainable naturally. I got to 240+ naturally, so I don’t really see a problem with it. If you’re at 240 and lean, then stage ready you’re going to be about 215 +/- 5 lbs. If i could get to 250+ and lean, I could get stage ready at 225 +/- 5 lbs, cutting naturally, depending on how lean I was when I started. I doubt I will, I hate cardio too much and I hate plain chicken breasts. Big deal. People pay entirely too much attention to steroids and completely undercut what is possible with a decade plus of hard consistent work and 24/7 dedication.
I guess you’re right, afterall, all of these pro athletes gear because it DOESN’T work. I get it now, my bad.[/quote]
Way to miss my entire post stud. I’ll recap for you with the cliff’s notes so you don’t have to do all that nasty reading and comprehension.
Primary Points:
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I don’t care if he uses steroids
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I don’t care if he uses steroids
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a) Levrone is a 1 in a billion genetic freak b) He has held 250-260 for years c) therefore if anyone on the planet is capable of a natural transformation using muscle memory, he is. He was not natural as an “O” competitor (probably because these steeeeroids actually, you know, work well). But his genetic gifts MAY enable him to do this naturally because he’s a freak (he’s only aiming for 240).
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I don’t care if Skip is using.
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Skip’s physique is attainable for some people naturally. a) I’ve been as heavy (naturally) as you would have to be to cut down to his contest weight naturally. I don’t, however, have his muscle belly structure to make me look like that on stage.
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That wussy people totally undercut the amount of progress hard work and dedication is able to produce over 10 years of obsessive work (or in Skip’s case about 15 years), because they lack the balls to try for themselves and they don’t want to believe it’s possible to look that good without “cheating”/
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I will probably never diet down to stage ready because I don’t like cardio, or plain chicken w/o condiments.
[quote]bicepenvy wrote:
Silkdagger wrote:
dude is sick and cool looking for sure. is he even close to natural?
More then likely not, but you never know for sure. Even given good genes, five pds of muscle a week is quite a bit. I think Bodybuilders in general are the most gullible group on the planet. Some people actually believe Skip Lacour is clean…[/quote]
The only reason to doubt it is because he had a track record – I’m talking years ago, I don’t know what he does now – of protesting FAR too much. Just never shut up, pretty much parading up and down the streets of every town with a megaphone announcing to people who never asked that he never used steroids. A constant, seemingly-never-ending “I don’t use steroids” tour, so to speak. (My statements aren’t literal.)
So far as his physique, which was good, it would be wrong to believe no one could achieve that naturally.
To repeat on Levrone: the idea that he couldn’t attain 245 in action hero condition (he never said contest condition) without drugs is just ignorant. The speed he plans to do it in would be highly remarkable for others, but it does not seem implausible for him.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Way to miss my entire post stud. I’ll recap for you with the cliff’s notes so you don’t have to do all that nasty reading and comprehension.
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Obviously bicepenvy and silkdagger are taking too much Ritalin to focus and read.
Oh, sorry bout that, was I just throwing a sweeping drug generalization out there??
And just in case you missed it, I don’t care if they’re using steroids.
And his biceps already look like that after not training them in 3 years 
Bastard.
Oh, and I can’t see the etched definition in Phil’s arms?? Obviously those aren’t arms any of us should be aspiring for 
Triceps day 4:
He’s… Quite big now…
Check his site now he has a starting pic. He looks a lot bigger in that pic then he did in the Burning Hollywood Skit he did, wierd…
I can not even believe thats the same person. amazing.
I have respect for what he’s doing and it’s interesting but is it just me or does it seem
like he’s never using a lot of intensity in the sets that he films?