Let's Process Our Feelings

Emily: Dear Hunter, by behaving like a bitch you have ruined your sexiness and it shall never be recovered…

Hunter: I did !?! O_O!?!

Emily: Ya, totally!!!

Hunter: Oh my… No chance this is gonna work!?!

Emily: No, you have totally bitchified yourself !!!

Hunter: Well, if you say so, will try not to be a total bitch next time…

Damn, if I had seen http://betapedia.com/ before I had met you…

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Try “Fuck off”

Or the more polite “Get lost”

You would be doing him a favor.[/quote]

I’m afraid to antagonize him.

I wish he’d just go away. I wish he didn’t know where I work. :([/quote]

Antagonizing is king of the idea…

Dont let him Beta Orbit You…

That is just wrong…

Wrong I say…[/quote]

He’s not beta orbiting me. He’s frightening me. He’s not an admirer feeding my ego, he’s creepy and scary.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Try “Fuck off”

Or the more polite “Get lost”

You would be doing him a favor.[/quote]

I’m afraid to antagonize him.

I wish he’d just go away. I wish he didn’t know where I work. :([/quote]

Antagonizing is king of the idea…

Dont let him Beta Orbit You…

That is just wrong…

Wrong I say…[/quote]

He’s not beta orbiting me. He’s frightening me. He’s not an admirer feeding my ego, he’s creepy and scary.[/quote]

Oh my…

He is failing at Beta orbiting…

Ya, that is creepy and scary…

I wish I had no idea how women operate…

Being a misogynist asshole is so much easier if you dont…

Women still stink though…

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Try “Fuck off”

Or the more polite “Get lost”

You would be doing him a favor.[/quote]

I’m afraid to antagonize him.

I wish he’d just go away. I wish he didn’t know where I work. :([/quote]

Antagonizing is king of the idea…

Dont let him Beta Orbit You…

That is just wrong…

Wrong I say…[/quote]

He’s not beta orbiting me. He’s frightening me. He’s not an admirer feeding my ego, he’s creepy and scary.[/quote]

I would send him a very escalated message, including words like harassment and ‘legal action.’ I know you’ve let him know you wish not to be contacted by him, but he apparently doesn’t understand the seriousness with which you mean that.

“I am not playing a game with you. I consider your continued attempts of contacting me to be harassment. Stop immediately so I do not have to consider legal forms of action. Do not respond to this message, do something else with your life.”

Now I’m not the psychology expert here obviously, but it would seem to me that someone who could be antagonized by this sort of message is already a threat anyway, and thus one should not be afraid to send the message in the first place.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Orion’s thoughts aside, I guess I would ignore this minor infraction coming on the heels of weeks of silence. It may have been a last gasp.

If/when he gets more egregious, I would go with “leave me alone,” since “please” sounds too soft, and “or else” can antagonize. And I wouldn’t be shy about police involvement if he shows signs of escalating.

Just my thoughts… I’m sure you have pretty good judgement, and you know the situation best.
[/quote]

Yeah…

Leaving my thoughts aside, you just restated them…

Must I be pretty to be recognized?

No, not on T-Nation, I do not!

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Orion’s thoughts aside, I guess I would ignore this minor infraction coming on the heels of weeks of silence. It may have been a last gasp.

If/when he gets more egregious, I would go with “leave me alone,” since “please” sounds too soft, and “or else” can antagonize. And I wouldn’t be shy about police involvement if he shows signs of escalating.

Just my thoughts… I’m sure you have pretty good judgement, and you know the situation best.
[/quote]

Yeah…

Leaving my thoughts aside, you just restated them…

Must I be pretty to be recognized?

No, not on T-Nation, I do not!

[/quote]

Da fuck?

You told her to nuke him for his smiley face![/quote]

If you state it like that it sounds a tad harsh…

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Orion’s thoughts aside, I guess I would ignore this minor infraction coming on the heels of weeks of silence. It may have been a last gasp.

If/when he gets more egregious, I would go with “leave me alone,” since “please” sounds too soft, and “or else” can antagonize. And I wouldn’t be shy about police involvement if he shows signs of escalating.

Just my thoughts… I’m sure you have pretty good judgement, and you know the situation best.
[/quote]

Yeah…

Leaving my thoughts aside, you just restated them…

Must I be pretty to be recognized?

No, not on T-Nation, I do not!

[/quote]

Da fuck?

You told her to nuke him for his smiley face![/quote]

If you state it like that it sounds a tad harsh…[/quote]

Well, you hated me, and Jewbacca hated me and Dr Sceptix still hates me and several female members might be somewhat wary…

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Orion’s thoughts aside, I guess I would ignore this minor infraction coming on the heels of weeks of silence. It may have been a last gasp.

If/when he gets more egregious, I would go with “leave me alone,” since “please” sounds too soft, and “or else” can antagonize. And I wouldn’t be shy about police involvement if he shows signs of escalating.

Just my thoughts… I’m sure you have pretty good judgement, and you know the situation best.
[/quote]

Yeah…

Leaving my thoughts aside, you just restated them…

Must I be pretty to be recognized?

No, not on T-Nation, I do not!

[/quote]

Da fuck?

You told her to nuke him for his smiley face![/quote]

If you state it like that it sounds a tad harsh…[/quote]

I can’t believe how much I used to hate you, you funny fucker you! [/quote]

I often think the same thing! How has this guy managed to grow on me? One of life’s little mysteries.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Em, text him this photo.

Tell him you were drunk today at the range or else the grouping would’ve been a bit better.[/quote]

The only problem is that he’s met me. I don’t think there’s much hope that he’d believe that. :frowning:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Try “Fuck off”

Or the more polite “Get lost”

You would be doing him a favor.[/quote]

I’m afraid to antagonize him.

I wish he’d just go away. I wish he didn’t know where I work. :([/quote]

Antagonizing is king of the idea…

Dont let him Beta Orbit You…

That is just wrong…

Wrong I say…[/quote]

He’s not beta orbiting me. He’s frightening me. He’s not an admirer feeding my ego, he’s creepy and scary.[/quote]

I would send him a very escalated message, including words like harassment and ‘legal action.’ I know you’ve let him know you wish not to be contacted by him, but he apparently doesn’t understand the seriousness with which you mean that.

“I am not playing a game with you. I consider your continued attempts of contacting me to be harassment. Stop immediately so I do not have to consider legal forms of action. Do not respond to this message, do something else with your life.”

Now I’m not the psychology expert here obviously, but it would seem to me that someone who could be antagonized by this sort of message is already a threat anyway, and thus one should not be afraid to send the message in the first place.[/quote]

I think you’re probably right, and yet I probably will do nothing because I’m wimpy that way. I see the text and my instinct is to run and throw the phone in the trash to make it stop. (I don’t, of course, because I love my phone.)

If it happens again, though, I will. Definitely.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Orion’s thoughts aside, I guess I would ignore this minor infraction coming on the heels of weeks of silence. It may have been a last gasp.

If/when he gets more egregious, I would go with “leave me alone,” since “please” sounds too soft, and “or else” can antagonize. And I wouldn’t be shy about police involvement if he shows signs of escalating.

Just my thoughts… I’m sure you have pretty good judgement, and you know the situation best.
[/quote]

Yeah…

Leaving my thoughts aside, you just restated them…

Must I be pretty to be recognized?

No, not on T-Nation, I do not!

[/quote]

Da fuck?

You told her to nuke him for his smiley face![/quote]

If you state it like that it sounds a tad harsh…[/quote]

I can’t believe how much I used to hate you, you funny fucker you! [/quote]

I often think the same thing! How has this guy managed to grow on me? One of life’s little mysteries.[/quote]

First I liked him, then I disliked him. Now he is like that slightly creepy uncle you still love because he is family.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:
I would send him a very escalated message, including words like harassment and ‘legal action.’ I know you’ve let him know you wish not to be contacted by him, but he apparently doesn’t understand the seriousness with which you mean that.

“I am not playing a game with you. I consider your continued attempts of contacting me to be harassment. Stop immediately so I do not have to consider legal forms of action. Do not respond to this message, do something else with your life.”

Now I’m not the psychology expert here obviously, but it would seem to me that someone who could be antagonized by this sort of message is already a threat anyway, and thus one should not be afraid to send the message in the first place.[/quote]

I think you’re probably right, and yet I probably will do nothing because I’m wimpy that way. I see the text and my instinct is to run and throw the phone in the trash to make it stop. (I don’t, of course, because I love my phone.)

If it happens again, though, I will. Definitely. [/quote]

I wasn’t sure at first, but considering your instinctive reaction, I guess harassment is right.

Something like “leave me alone” or even “please leave me alone” was appropriate before, but I’m in agreement with red04 that a very escalated response is necessary now. I probably wouldn’t even wait until he tried to contact you again, but that’s up to you.

“If you continue to contact me I’ll take further action. Lose my number.”

That was a very effective message I received once. I’m not going to elaborate on context, except to say that I never contacted her since. As a message, it’s short and sweet and if not verbatim, something very close to it should work in your case.

On a side note, I do find it quite fascinating how strongly you were attracted to him in the beginning, and how strongly you’ve pushed him away at the end. Same guy, and nothing changed about who he is, simply that his choice of words and actions, and their timing, were enough to evoke both responses in you.

Maybe you see the parallels between this and many of the ‘game’ discussions.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
You’ve grown so much as a person since the last kettle, though. I feel like you could have plastic parts and it be okay if need be. I think perhaps we could draw a nice analogy to your love life here, where your desire for certainty paralyzes you.

There’s a line in the song Free Will that I like a lot (it’s Rush or Yes, I can never remember which): “If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.”

So, so true.[/quote]

Why have plastic parts when I can do better? Except better commands a higher price, one I’m not willing to pay. But seriously, there’s an All Clad kettle for $150.

So that really leaves me with two (okay, three) choices. I can put out right now and spring for something much better than what I had, but coming down with a bad case of remorse at the cost. Or I can just learn to get by without. Or, the reluctant third choice, to just get something comparable to what I had, regularly wondering if maybe I should have taken the chance on something better.[/quote]

Buyers remorse only lasts a couple days at most, but enjoying the use of a well made item lasts for years.

Get the good one.
[/quote]

I really don’t feel that strongly about kettles; just drawing parallels for the fun of it.

The only time I’ve regretted owning a well made item is when it failed on me unexpectedly. Like the cap on this kettle melting off. (Or the girl who spontaneously went crazy.)

So I evaluate the failure and revise my standards. Then I upgrade and don’t regret it at all.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

(except for the hunter, who just fucking texted me a winky face after weeks of blessed silence)

[/quote]

Man, that is one disturbed dude.

I think you dodged a bullet; at least so far.[/quote]

Ack. So keep ignoring or say “leave me alone”? (“Please leave me alone”? “Leave me alone or else”?)

Don’t I have enough problems without this? (Yes! I do.)[/quote]

Orion’s thoughts aside, I guess I would ignore this minor infraction coming on the heels of weeks of silence. It may have been a last gasp.

If/when he gets more egregious, I would go with “leave me alone,” since “please” sounds too soft, and “or else” can antagonize. And I wouldn’t be shy about police involvement if he shows signs of escalating.

Just my thoughts… I’m sure you have pretty good judgement, and you know the situation best.
[/quote]

Yeah…

Leaving my thoughts aside, you just restated them…

Must I be pretty to be recognized?

No, not on T-Nation, I do not!

[/quote]

Da fuck?

You told her to nuke him for his smiley face![/quote]

If you state it like that it sounds a tad harsh…[/quote]

I can’t believe how much I used to hate you, you funny fucker you! [/quote]

I often think the same thing! How has this guy managed to grow on me? One of life’s little mysteries.[/quote]

First I liked him, then I disliked him. Now he is like that slightly creepy uncle you still love because he is family.
[/quote]

Slightly creepy…

You cut deep, I give you that…

I too had this experience…