[quote]CBear84 wrote:
and my hammies are SORE from the other night. even resorted to some tiger balm.
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That stuff work? I can barely walk today, so I’m not above rubbing some tiger on me. Shit, I hope ImHungry doesn’t see that…
I like it that you did something! The equipment may be old, but your imagination will fill in the blanks.
ups- oh i’m right in there with ya! the old recipies are SO much better than lots of stuff now. good thinkin, gettin that recipe box!
inky- YES, YES IT DOES work. sorry its so late, but mebbe it’ll help ya some tomorrow. there’s patches and cream and ointment… i get the extra strength ointment, and keep a patch or two for the extra tough times. make SURE to wash your hands before you touch anything else, and when in doubt, put on your underwear first. not a good way to find out youre underpants dragged through it on your legs and now its all over your crotch. esp when youre at work by the time you realize wtf happened. not that i’ve done that, or anything…
kimba- tbh that was enough to make my shoulders and pecs a lil sore today. i’m such a wimp. i are iz fixing it tho.
work for 12 hours today. i hate people.
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
and my hammies are SORE from the other night. even resorted to some tiger balm.
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That stuff work? I can barely walk today, so I’m not above rubbing some tiger on me. Shit, I hope ImHungry doesn’t see that…[/quote]
the 1000th left on broadway post.
eh. good enuf. 
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
and my hammies are SORE from the other night. even resorted to some tiger balm.
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That stuff work? I can barely walk today, so I’m not above rubbing some tiger on me. Shit, I hope ImHungry doesn’t see that…[/quote]
the 1000th left on broadway post.
eh. good enuf. [/quote]
Looks like this log is almost filled to capacity too. The max is what, like 46 pages?
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
not a good way to find out youre underpants dragged through it on your legs and now its all over your crotch. esp when youre at work by the time you realize wtf happened. not that i’ve done that, or anything…[/quote]
Thanks for my first laugh of the day! I needed that.
Keep on, keeping on.
bg- 45 or 46, i cant remember. Just that the rule for the last post is that it has to be edited to link the new log. ya know, gots ta make it ezee for mah fanz to keep up!
kimba- life’s a garden, dig it!
training
Saturday squatting at EFS-
hams still sore like pussies that’ve been gangbanged, so i just worked up to 195x3x2.
then just for shits and giggles, i tried some GHR’s, and did a few sets of 4-5, felt them sufficiently ripped and destroyed, called it a day.
took the Space Cadet from work out last night, it was her 21st.
today- slept in because i’m old and i was out way past my bedtime (really. dont give me that look)
shoveled snow and chipped ice then shoveled the chipped ice. not exactly the upperbody/core workout i wanted, but i know i’m gonna feel it tomorrow.
at this point, i’m really just satisfied that i’ve kept myself movin and doin something.
gotta up the dose… OF MOTIVATION!!
I started reading One Second After. The execution of the two drug stealing thieves under martial law …Mmm yeah. That was nice . What made it even more troublesome to me was then Tom, not many pages later exclaims that the use of medical marijuana is “breaking the law.” Seriously? I appreciate the moral quandary that these characters are in. But so far they are a little too right wing conservative for me to warm up to.
[quote]Nadia Comeandeat wrote:
I started reading One Second After. The execution of the two drug stealing thieves under martial law …Mmm yeah. That was nice .[/quote]
it might be different mindsets between you and me, but from the moment i “heard” the nursing home was robbed i wanted those responsible dead. those are not conditions for any inch to be given, lest a mile be burned.
also, i tend to become very involved with my books. you get to the part where they get tyler yet? there’s a part there that made me cry and i cant remember where exactly but i dont wanna ruin something for you.
It does seem harsh. I feel ya there. I’m a bit of a history nerd (though not to John’s level, obvi) and I understood immediately why they put shit on lockdown the way they did. John was trying to prevent repeats of disasters he’s studied.
but is it bad that i got furious when Charlie tried to commandeer John’s car?
I dont want book discussion to take away from how awesome I think you are, even if we disagree about some stuff. ftr, i have no prob with most of the people who use pot. i figure if you’re in a bad enough way to have a doc willing to prescribe it to you, i’ll consider myself lucky that i don’t “need” it. if you’re using it for recreation and still getting shit done, by all beans, tie one on. its the others of which i disapprove.
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
I dont want book discussion to take away from how awesome I think you are, even if we disagree about some stuff.
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Cbear: Same here of course. But be forewarned, I’m a disagreeable person–often guilty of taking the available position on issue–regardless of what I may really think. Agreement is dull and makes for lousy conversation. Thoughtful and spirited conversations with open minded, but not like minded people , are awesome. I trust you’re not easy to offend, (and neither am I) so I think we’ll be fine.
Now, I’ll guess that you got choked up in the nursing home in the scene with the old Sergeant, and I’ll admit that I liked that part too. In my limited experience, dying even with all the available narcotics in the world , is a largely undignified process, and to the extent dying occurs with dignity–that comes from within.
Re the execution of the two thieves–I’m an old criminal defense atty–so this is going to be hard for me to see any other way. First, the crime–looting precious medical supplies from people in desperate need–is made up after the fact of commission. And, while the evidence of their theft is overwhelming (but the trial was an inquisition), whether they had the further intent to cause the prolonged suffering of the people in the nursing home is not. The theft occurred just a few days into the crisis and they were executed on day 5. Did these numb-nuts know that the world had come to an end? Did they know they had taken all the meds?
After just 5 days, that public execution marked the abandonment of so many of America’s core values- a country founded on a love of freedom and a fear of governmental tyranny-stood by while 2 people were shot by firing squad in the town square. This just happened too early in the book for me.
Our post 9-11 country is in a fragile period. Fear my irreparably change us. Americans now see the greatest threat to our way of life as coming from the outside–and for protection we have traded (and are trading) on our civil liberties. See eg the Patriot Act. Is it a good trade? I don’t know.
I actually finished the book. So, I clearly enjoyed it. I warmed up to John when he stood up against the policy on kiliing the dogs in the town for food. A sucker for old yeller, I teared up when Zach got put down. But, I was ok with what happened to Ginger. Jennifer’s death sucked too-- both my kids have lovies–so his reading the story about her and rabs–hmm yeah.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Did I just step into Oprah’s book club? lol. Nah, I can dig the reading. One of my favorite pleasures. For the record, been using Tiger Balm for years. I like it. And getting a bit of it in the nether-regions ain’t that bad. I may just be “special” in that regard, though…
this is a quoting mess and i hope it comes out ok.
[quote]Nadia Comeandeat wrote:
I trust you’re not easy to offend.[/quote]
nope.
bingo. it wasn’t until John saluted that the tears spilled over, but they started to well when he scooped water out of the old cooler in the cafeteria.
well said.
[quote]Re the execution of the two thieves–I’m an old criminal defense atty–so this is going to be hard for me to see any other way.[/quote] i’ll admit my bias bc you admit yours. i was raised by a full bird Colonel and am part of a large military family. i had no prob with the execution.
at least you concede that they’re numbnuts.
i’ll concede the trial was an inquisition. however, could an unbias jury be found? were a significant number of people thinking rationally at that point?
john as a history professor, charlie as chief of police (i think it was charlie. or was it tom? i should go back and look so as to avoid confusion.), and kate as mayor had all seen the system as it stands fail over and over again. john and charlie were in positions to have had specific education about the consequences of lawlessness or casual penalties in disaster situations (new orleans stadium rape robbery and murder), and i agree that they needed to set a firm, hard example from the get-go to instill obedience in the community, and fear is often the best motivation.
relying on group reason when panic/rioting has such high potential seems dangerous to me.
ok. you made me go get the book to quote this;
you can definitely and logically argue that the hearing was neither “fair” nor “open.” I could be more familiar with martial law (bad cbear didn’t brush up before posting. trying to hurry before class, even tho i could wait), but i respect the “act quickly and make an example” mindset the town leadership took. Were I ever in a position to make that decision (and i hope i’m not, for so many reasons) I see myself doing the same thing.
yes, the theft occurred just a few days into the crisis, and they may not have known that the world had come to an end, but they knew it was a crisis situation and took advantage of people who were sick and dying, and because of the nature of an establishment like a nursing home, removing pain medication -that’s there for a reason- is immediately followed by pain and suffering on the part of the patients. they’d have to have been mentally incapable themselves to have assumed otherwise.
whether or not they had taken ALL the meds is somewhat irrelevant… is it different if you cause agony and early death for 1, 15, or 50 people? (thats half rhetorical and half literal, first half as a person and second as lawyer)
no. it’s not a good trade.
[quote]I actually finished the book. So, I clearly enjoyed it. I warmed up to John when he stood up against the policy on kiliing the dogs in the town for food. A sucker for old yeller, I teared up when Zach got put down. But, I was ok with what happened to Ginger. Jennifer’s death sucked too-- both my kids have lovies–so his reading the story about her and rabs–hmm yeah.
Thanks for the recommendation. [/quote]
i’m so not done talking about this book yet.
Interrupting the book reviews to chime in late on this post:
[quote]UpScale wrote:
Went for some squat stands, only to find out they were only available online (big surprise)
joining a gym is sounding like my only choice.
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I don’t know the backstory here, or what exactly you’re looking for, but I actually quit my gym last summer because I made some ghetto squat stands from a plan in a blog I found:
http://www.casualhacker.net/blog/2008/04/homemade-squat-stands/
They’re pretty easy to make and the materials don’t cost much at all. I put in a level for squatting and a level for benching and it worked perfectly for my purposes. I finally upgraded to a full EFS rack a couple weeks ago, so if you were in the So. Cal. region, I would happily bestow the old ghetto squat stands to you.
[quote]Chimera23 wrote:
Interrupting the book reviews to chime in late on this post:
[quote]UpScale wrote:
Went for some squat stands, only to find out they were only available online (big surprise)
joining a gym is sounding like my only choice.
[/quote]
I don’t know the backstory here, or what exactly you’re looking for, but I actually quit my gym last summer because I made some ghetto squat stands from a plan in a blog I found:
http://www.casualhacker.net/blog/2008/04/homemade-squat-stands/
They’re pretty easy to make and the materials don’t cost much at all. I put in a level for squatting and a level for benching and it worked perfectly for my purposes. I finally upgraded to a full EFS rack a couple weeks ago, so if you were in the So. Cal. region, I would happily bestow the old ghetto squat stands to you.[/quote]
haha chimera no worries about interrupting the book stuffs. if it gets too carried away i’ll start a thread.
the backstory is that bc of a technicality with an accident i got into in september, i am without drivers license until april 7. i have priviliges for work, school, and EFS in London, but not for my local gym. couldnt sell the guy for the local, but he did me a favor by adding EFS in there. so i really shouldnt complain, but i’m doing my fair share of bitching.
I really do appreciate the link and the idea though, will keep that in mind FO SHO!!
^ Thats a good link!
I was just going to use my plastic tubs of junk for stands! 
just stopping by…and WHAT? No driving until April?? OH NO! :{ It is a whole new world of horrible having to bumm rides as an adult–> I’ve been there! Was without a car from age 24-26…shiver…
books!! I think my tastes are a bit different than what you and nadia have read…should you hunger for nerdy strange urban fantasy/sci fi/folklore stuff …I got plenty of suggestions…
MIM- there’s lifting related stuff goin on here. yay!
brute- i can’t say i have a taste for one kind of book or another, this one was a motherinsistedmustreadnaow kinda thing. turned out i liked it. she still knows me, sorta.
Chimera thanks, I loved the idea of it being a multi task piece.
Cbear reading threw 5/3/1 the second time…Ill have to update you on some vids. Compiling my 1 rep max for all the sweating and swearing I’m about to do.(not necessarily in that order)
[quote] i’ll admit my bias bc you admit yours. i was raised by a full bird Colonel and am part of a large military family. i had no prob with the execution.
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You’re a hard ass, with an interesting background My parents were both in the navy–not career military–dad to pay for school, mom to get out of her father’s house. That’s where they met. Anyway, they are pretty damn conservative, but I guess I took the available position in my family and came out a bleeding heart.
It’s not just that the ds jury trial rights were violated–there was no right to counsel (sorry john’s speech doesn’t count), no cross examination of the witnesses, a violation of the ex post facto clause (this is my biggest problem–the gov doesn’t get to make up crimes and punishments after the fact), cruel and unusual punishment. blah blah blah.
The harsh swift punishment may have had the effect of keeping order. But, what subset of the population do you think required that deterrence? certainly, there were some number of townspeople who would never engage in lawlessness. Those people then didn’t require the execution to be deterred. And there were likely some who would be lawless regardless of the risk of the penalty. I tend to think most people make choices based on principles not consequences OR without regard to consequences at all. Therefore, I don’t place a lot of stock in general deterrence as a penological justification
What concerns me about the order keeping mentality is that is has the concurrent effect of stifling dissidence in the community–ie challenges to the acting government. After watching two people executed … whose going to feel safe to speak out against charlie, tom and kate’s rule. I suspect that you think that in times of war that’s a good thing?
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you can definitely and logically argue that the hearing was neither “fair” nor “open.” I could be more familiar with martial law (bad cbear didn’t brush up before posting. trying to hurry before class, even tho i could wait), but i respect the “act quickly and make an example” mindset the town leadership took. Were I ever in a position to make that decision (and i hope i’m not, for so many reasons) I see myself doing the same thing.
yes, the theft occurred just a few days into the crisis, and they may not have known that the world had come to an end, but they knew it was a crisis situation and took advantage of people who were sick and dying, and because of the nature of an establishment like a nursing home, removing pain medication -that’s there for a reason- is immediately followed by pain and suffering on the part of the patients. they’d have to have been mentally incapable themselves to have assumed otherwise.
whether or not they had taken ALL the meds is somewhat irrelevant… is it different if you cause agony and early death for 1, 15, or 50 people? (thats half rhetorical and half literal, first half as a person and second as lawyer)[/quote]
It’s different to me only because if there were some meds left and if the d’s believed that there was the possibility of getting more meds–then the ds could hardly be said to be responsible for the suffering that resulted.
Also, why is the ds conduct of affirmatively taking the meds so much worse than what the leadership in this community ultimately did? They blocked access into their town, causing other americans to wait at border check points where they grew weaker, and where their chances of survival when finally allowed through were lessened. Remember the professional woman who tried to sell her services and then her body to john? And fuck, remember John hoarding cigs right after the crisis–he did so not only because he was addicted, but because he believed they would be valuable currency. And then there’s the insulin–did he sweet talk his way into more than his fair share?
Also, remember the threat to Ashville’s water supply? What if they had cut ashville’s water off. Would you view that act as criminal? And why the fuck didn’t someone get in one of the running cars and head fucking west to steal corn or wheat ?
no gym this week again, but i’ve done my fair share of ice chipping and shoveling…
and i’ll be staying at school this afternoon to get hold of a barbell before sat/sun.
nadia, havent forgotten you, either.
also, i went to bed at six last night and slept till a lil after 9am. apparently, i needed that.