KingBeef: How did you get so BEEFY?

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[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Just dropping back in here to say I’ve been back on Max-OT for about 3 months now and am absolutely loving it, and killing it in the gym. Weights are back up and climbing EVERY week now that I’m done dieting and getting some food in. I’m really glad I’m back to this style of training - great results + fun as hell… What more can I ask for?

I really can’t weight to see what kind of growth and strength gains I can get in the next 2-3 (or hell, 10) years out of this.

Thanks Beef, you got me back into it.[/quote]

Good stuff, man. Got a log or pics up anywhere?

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Beef, you planning on taking Indigo-3G?

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[quote]DazeDolo wrote:
Beef, you planning on taking Indigo-3G? [/quote]

At the moment, no. Can’t really justify more than doubling my monthly spending on supplements right now as good as that stuff looks. Hopefully in the near future I’ll easily be able to afford it.

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[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Just dropping back in here to say I’ve been back on Max-OT for about 3 months now and am absolutely loving it, and killing it in the gym. Weights are back up and climbing EVERY week now that I’m done dieting and getting some food in. I’m really glad I’m back to this style of training - great results + fun as hell… What more can I ask for?

I really can’t weight to see what kind of growth and strength gains I can get in the next 2-3 (or hell, 10) years out of this.

Thanks Beef, you got me back into it.[/quote]

Good stuff, man. Got a log or pics up anywhere?
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No posted log, new post diet pics in my profile, but those will be straight up OBSOLETE in 1 years time, and down right pathetic in 3 years. Mark my words.

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Hey man. Are you still using IF with pulsing?? Has it enabled you to eat less protein??? If you were to use this in the offseason would you just replaced the removed protein calories with extra fats and carbs and see how that worked out, or would you raise protein ragardless (I thought the point of the product was so you could each less protein, especially whey, and increase cals from other macros)?

Did you notice any benefits specifically from dropping whey??? Any leaning out or less stomach fullness/bloat?

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KoB, I’ve read through your threads intermittently over the past number of months, but I have a question that I don’t remember being addressed. If it has, I apologize: you lift on weekdays and take the weekends off, lifting 5 days/week. First, what are your thoughts on lifting 7 days a week? Second, is there a reason that you take the two days off consecutively instead of, say, taking a mid-week day off and then one weekend day?

Thanks.

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[quote]Boat-J-Doc wrote:
Hey man. Are you still using IF with pulsing?? Has it enabled you to eat less protein??? If you were to use this in the offseason would you just replaced the removed protein calories with extra fats and carbs and see how that worked out, or would you raise protein ragardless (I thought the point of the product was so you could each less protein, especially whey, and increase cals from other macros)?

Did you notice any benefits specifically from dropping whey??? Any leaning out or less stomach fullness/bloat?[/quote]

No, sir. I’m in full on weight gain mode, so I switched back to whey to get the extra calories. That said, I use pure whey isolate, so I don’t seem to ever notice any adverse effects from it compared to the HP.

[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
KoB, I’ve read through your threads intermittently over the past number of months, but I have a question that I don’t remember being addressed. If it has, I apologize: you lift on weekdays and take the weekends off, lifting 5 days/week. First, what are your thoughts on lifting 7 days a week? Second, is there a reason that you take the two days off consecutively instead of, say, taking a mid-week day off and then one weekend day?

Thanks.[/quote]

I know some people can train 7 days a week and progress consistently without burnout, by intelligently managing training volume and intensity and that’s all I can really say about that without speculating. That said I wouldn’t do it myself.

As far as my off days, I like the 5 days on weekends off just because it’s nice to just be able to chill/socialize on the weekends without having to worry about when I’m going to get a workout in, especially if I’m up late friday/saturday nights. I don’t always do that though, it’s just what I was doing at the time. Right now I’m hitting everything 2x a week Mon-Sat.

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have you ever considered trying keeping protein lower and just replacing whey calories with more carbs and fats?? Did you drop IF as well, and how are you pairing up the bp’s to hit em 2x??

[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:

[quote]Boat-J-Doc wrote:
Hey man. Are you still using IF with pulsing?? Has it enabled you to eat less protein??? If you were to use this in the offseason would you just replaced the removed protein calories with extra fats and carbs and see how that worked out, or would you raise protein ragardless (I thought the point of the product was so you could each less protein, especially whey, and increase cals from other macros)?

Did you notice any benefits specifically from dropping whey??? Any leaning out or less stomach fullness/bloat?[/quote]

No, sir. I’m in full on weight gain mode, so I switched back to whey to get the extra calories. That said, I use pure whey isolate, so I don’t seem to ever notice any adverse effects from it compared to the HP.

[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
KoB, I’ve read through your threads intermittently over the past number of months, but I have a question that I don’t remember being addressed. If it has, I apologize: you lift on weekdays and take the weekends off, lifting 5 days/week. First, what are your thoughts on lifting 7 days a week? Second, is there a reason that you take the two days off consecutively instead of, say, taking a mid-week day off and then one weekend day?

Thanks.[/quote]

I know some people can train 7 days a week and progress consistently without burnout, by intelligently managing training volume and intensity and that’s all I can really say about that without speculating. That said I wouldn’t do it myself.

As far as my off days, I like the 5 days on weekends off just because it’s nice to just be able to chill/socialize on the weekends without having to worry about when I’m going to get a workout in, especially if I’m up late friday/saturday nights. I don’t always do that though, it’s just what I was doing at the time. Right now I’m hitting everything 2x a week Mon-Sat.
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[quote]Boat-J-Doc wrote:
have you ever considered trying keeping protein lower and just replacing whey calories with more carbs and fats?? Did you drop IF as well, and how are you pairing up the bp’s to hit em 2x??

[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:

[quote]Boat-J-Doc wrote:
Hey man. Are you still using IF with pulsing?? Has it enabled you to eat less protein??? If you were to use this in the offseason would you just replaced the removed protein calories with extra fats and carbs and see how that worked out, or would you raise protein ragardless (I thought the point of the product was so you could each less protein, especially whey, and increase cals from other macros)?

Did you notice any benefits specifically from dropping whey??? Any leaning out or less stomach fullness/bloat?[/quote]

No, sir. I’m in full on weight gain mode, so I switched back to whey to get the extra calories. That said, I use pure whey isolate, so I don’t seem to ever notice any adverse effects from it compared to the HP.

[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
KoB, I’ve read through your threads intermittently over the past number of months, but I have a question that I don’t remember being addressed. If it has, I apologize: you lift on weekdays and take the weekends off, lifting 5 days/week. First, what are your thoughts on lifting 7 days a week? Second, is there a reason that you take the two days off consecutively instead of, say, taking a mid-week day off and then one weekend day?

Thanks.[/quote]

I know some people can train 7 days a week and progress consistently without burnout, by intelligently managing training volume and intensity and that’s all I can really say about that without speculating. That said I wouldn’t do it myself.

As far as my off days, I like the 5 days on weekends off just because it’s nice to just be able to chill/socialize on the weekends without having to worry about when I’m going to get a workout in, especially if I’m up late friday/saturday nights. I don’t always do that though, it’s just what I was doing at the time. Right now I’m hitting everything 2x a week Mon-Sat.
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I need the extra calories from carbs/fat AS WELL as the extra cals from the whey. I need all the cals I can get to gain weight, so taking a form of protein with negligible calories would be counterproductive for me here, IMO.

Doing Legs/Abs(M+Th), Chest/delts/Tris (T+F), Back/Traps/Bis/Calves (W+Sa)

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Gotcha. I am guessing its to hard to get the cals in IFing as well if you need to eat a ton right?

And for your bulk, are you back to emphasizing protein and fats, with carbs being the third wheel (not that you go low carb by any means, just that your bulk seemed to breakdown to around 35/35/30 p/f/c)