I want to clarify that my opinion is of principle and is not in response to the opinions on the subject here. Since the topic of nutrition came up, I remembered how I constantly read and see articles that recommend: eat protein, it makes you feel full for long hours during the day. This approach may work for some, but it doesn’t work for me. Which does not prevent me from eating this way - I will feel hungry and throw up the water.
Otherwise, I agree that it depends on the goals. I personally like this body view that is in the picture as well.
I am afraid I lack that feature. I understand why you did it though
My problem is i love to eat and there is no problem for me to eat huge amount of food. I’m just worrying i will ruin my physique and bf%
You’ve already been told that it depends on your goals. If you train naturally, it is very difficult (according to many experts, even impossible) to keep the body fat you have at the moment, while at the same time significantly increasing your muscle mass. I said in my previous post that I like that look on your body as well, but personally I would prefer a little more fat than yours, but significantly more muscle mass on my body. I don’t really care if my abs show all that well. It’s enough that they are noticeable where my fat gain limit would be if I started from where you are right now.
Look dude, you say you’re hungry all the time. This is your body sending you a signal that it wants to grow. You also say you think 1500 calories a day is hard to maintain. Guess what? Gain weight, hopefully most of it muscle, and then cut down to your desired bf%. Your maintenance calories will go way up. Most people here have to eat more than ~2700 calories a day or they’ll lose weight. That will be a lot easier to play around with and maintain.
Muscle is expensive tissue, add muscle to your body and your TDEE will go up. Trying to stay as lean as you are is a fast-track to absolutely nowhere and one of the reasons so many people end up spinning their wheels in the gym for years.
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So i think best is to find a balance. I think i should add 200 calories to my current eating plan and just watch how my body responds
How many veggies or fats are you eating with this?
Josh Hillis has said he believes some people feel fuller with carbs, some feel fuller with fats.
Doesn’t this answer your question for you? Don’t try and maintain something you don’t think you can maintain.
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If you know what your TDEE is, add 300-500 to that and just focus on progressive overload on all your lifts for at least 6months, maybe do a mini-cut for 2-3 weeks halfway through. Post another picture and ask us again.
I know you want to do only 200 calories to minimize fat gain but even when weighing all your food it’s very difficult to be that accurate and it could be the difference between gaining muscle or not gaining any weight at all. 300-500 leaves more margin for error.
~3500 calories in a pound, meaning going from 200 to 300 calories surplus a day it would take 35 days to notice that pound of difference. You can lose that in half a week when you cut. You already know how to not eat much, it’ll be piss easy for you to lose any fat you put on. I don’t think a surplus that small is right for you. You’ll want all the energy you can to add weight to bar each week.
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Thanks, that’s very good advice
I’m not strict about tracking food as a ratio of macronutrients, but fat is always the most in percentage and calories accordingly. But fat is contained in meat, eggs and so on, which is why these results are obtained. Without it being my goal, I eat more fat. I rarely eat nuts or avocados. I eat meat, cheese and yellow cheese. When I eat carbs, the ratio of calories from carbs to calories from protein is generally the same. Very often when I eat less carbs the calorie ratio is for example around 25% carbs, 50% fat and 25% protein. And when I eat more carbohydrates, it is obviously at the expense of fats /without being a goal, it happens naturally/ and the ratios are about 40% carbohydrates and 30% each of fat and protein.
For example, when I have lunch at work, I eat about 200 gr. /0.44 lbs/ of chicken steak and 1 tomato with half a cucumber. For dinner, no matter how much I eat vegetables with the same amount of meat or more, my stomach still tells me that it can and wants to eat more. For example 3-4 tomatoes, one cucumber or broccoli 0.5 - 0.7 lbs. or some salad greens.
I’d try it with egg whites or chicken breasts vs steak.
That said, you may be feeling one of the different types of hunger talked about here
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I remember one day i went on my friends wedding and ate everything from the table because i was constantly thinking about food. This is how i exactley feel everyday. Im just starving
Once again, I ask: have you spoken to a professional regarding these feelings?
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No. I’m not having a problem with eating more food. I’m just afraid that i can destroy my long cut. I never had this low bodyfat. I want to keep it but i know its pointless because i can’t make a progress without bulking. I can’t talk it to myself.
Fear is not, traditionally, considered a reasonable/rational reaction to eating.
I would very much consider speaking to someone trained in matter of human psychology were I in your situation. They are quite helpful in navigating these feelings.
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Not being able to talk to yourself about it rationally is exactly why you need professional help. Take @T3hPwnisher’s advice, get a professional, outside opinion.
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Since my English is not good, and I am not aware in the US of the exact names of the foods and what is meant by chicken steak, in my country we have two types of chicken steak - breast and thigh. Basically 90% of the time I eat chicken breast steak. In this particular case, my hunger is greater, probably because there is less fat there. At lunch today I ate approximately 0.5 lbs of steak, 0.2 lbs of tomato sauce, and 0.2 lbs of cucumber yogurt. After 20 minutes it was as if I hadn’t eaten anything.
Yes, this food is not much, but it is not very little either.
What I found for me - when I significantly reduced carbohydrates, my blood sugar normalized very quickly / sometimes it is slightly elevated in the morning, but not in diabetic limits / and I lose weight quickly, but I have no energy. I’m not feeling 100%. When I eat carbs and eat more calories I gain weight very quickly, but I feel better and more willing to work out. But my health indicators are getting worse - blood pressure, blood count. And if I have to choose, I prefer not to be so energetic and feel a little hungry, but my blood pressure, blood count and blood sugar are normal. Strength training takes a back seat.
My apologies to the author of the thread that I may have spammed a little of its main purpose.
Here’s what I mean about a chicken breast steak, which I eat often.
You’re cut as fuck man, well done!
NOW its time for you to weigh more than tweenager. Eat more. Like 500-750cals a day more, and start running a program (not the same thing as a split).
You’ll lose some of the lean-ness, but given your current physique, I wouldn’t worry much… you clearly dont have an issue leaning back out.
On a side note: 1500 cals per day is NOT enough food. As you mentioned before: its not sustainable.
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Nothing is meant by chicken steak. You said eating steak left you feeling hungry. I am saying eat chicken breasts instead of steak (beef).
I’d try the experiment with more than .5 pounds of chicken breast, or, again, egg whites. A diet of nothing but them can quickly find limits. But, again, the hunger you are experiencing may be one of the other kinds of hunger.
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There has been confusion, I’m just not clear on what is meant. Apparently you understand beef. We call everything a steak - it can be pork, beef or chicken or turkey. What I’m eating is roast chicken breast meat like the one I put in the picture.
I apologize if I misled you.
I will also think about the advice you gave me about the types of hunger.
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