Kayveeay's Log **UPDATED** 12/27/09

[quote]LayinLo wrote:
kayveeay wrote:

If I dropped the dose, it would probably be to do 9 weeks at 500 mg/week and then stasis and taper.

Would that be long enough to maximize the cycle since they are long esthers?

Yes.

BTW, my avi says hi, Joe!..j/k

Have you thought about possiblt lowering your caloric intake to prime your body for the increased test? Kinda like the pros do before a blast/cruise cycle. Basically get close to a contest diet for a week and then after starting their gear, going back up to the higher caloric intake?[/quote]

I had not considered that. It’s a good idea, but I’m only going this heavy on the calories for the week before, and during my cycle. Before my first post, I was between 3000-4000 calories per day.

I will read up on it however, seems like a good idea

How is your body reacting to the calorie intake…? Do you feel bloated or fat?

[quote]Famousbychoice wrote:
How is your body reacting to the calorie intake…? Do you feel bloated or fat?[/quote]

I don’t feel bloated, in fact, I feel more vascular than ever.

Fat? YEA. I look in the mirror and I go fuck…

I can’t wait to start training 2x week next week.

I feel like I’m pushing myself to eat. Like 10 minutes ago, my prebedtime meal. I wasn’t hungry at all.
I ate a grilled chicken breast (8oz) with cheese, mixed fruit, 12 oz 2% milk 1 scoop muscle milk 1 scoop 100% whey, and (LOL) a 500 calorie icecream cookie sandwich. One of those fat ass nestle fuckers. 500 cal/220 fat.

NOW I’m full.

For clarification, by training I mean MMA, not lifting in the gym, haha

Day (-4)
Weight (177.0)

Arm Day

Straight Bar Curls
80x5, 80x5, 80x5, 80x5, 80x5
Standing DB Curls (superset with above)
30x5, 30x5, 30x5, 30x5, 35x5

Preacher Curls (weight added to bar, bar weight unknown)
35x5, 35x5, 35x5, 35x5, 35x6
Hammer Curls (superset with above)(reps are per arm)
30x5, 30x5, 30x5, 30x5, 30x8

Seated Overhead DB Ext.
55x5, 60x5, 60x5, 65x5, 70x8 (had spotter for last set)

Incline EZ Bar Narrow Grip Skull Crushers
40x10, 50x10, 60x5, 60x5, 60x5

Tricep Pushdown with Bar
90x10x3

Dips (bodyweight)
10 reps 4 sets

Caloric Intake posted later today along with diet.

Today was a great workout. I usually hate working out in the morning. I weighed in at 177, which is pretty good for the morning I’d say.

I also got my arms measured, and I took a few new pictures. Keep in mind I was pumped from my workout.

Left Arm: 15 1/8"
Right Arm: 14 7/8"

Day (-3)
Weight (176.8)

Delts and Traps

Military Press
115x5, 115x5, 125x2, 115x4, 95x12

Arnold Press
40x5, 45x5, 50x5, 50x5, 50x6

Alternating DB Press
45x3, 40x4, 35x5, 35x5 (couldn’t squeeze out a fifth rep on first OR second set… damn)

Hammer Strength “Iso-lateral Shoulder Press”
100x10, 120x6, 140x6

Lateral Raises (5 reps to side, 5 reps in front, same set)
15x5, 15x5, 20x5, 20x5

Upright Rows
80x5, 90x5, 90x5, 90x5, 90x5

Shrugs (DB)
65x10, 70x10, 70x10

Workout got cut short didn’t get to finish 4th and 5th set of shrugs or smith machine shrugs… gym closed earlier than I thought on sunday nights. :confused:

Caloric intake today was 4100

Also, delay in gear arrival, it won’t be in until thursday or friday.

I need some advice on shooting, so I’m going to make a new thread in the steroid section… please comment (don’t want to clutter up my log)

Interesting log. How much protein per day are you shooting for? I couldn’t find it in any of your posts.

I’d shoot for at least 1.5 grams per pound of body weight if possible. Magical things happen at that point as far as my experience has been, on or off gear.

I’m shooting for 300 grams of protein per day. At 175 lbs, that’s a litle over 1.5

Hey, how’s your weight coming along?

Day (-2)
Weight (176.6)

OFF DAY

Caloric Intake 4400

I am still sticking with the T500 aka horsekick to ass/leg. I’m ordering some sterile grapeseed oil, 50ml, so that if the shit hurts too bad, I can dilute it in the syringe.
The consensus seems to be draw the amount of steroid you need, and mix the oil in the syringe.
I’ll probably use .75 cc T500 mixed with .5 cc grapeseed oil, giving me about 250-300 mg per ml concentration.

AKBoxer, I haven’t started shooting yet, so I’m sitting at plus 1.5-2 lbs or so, probably from increased food intake.

I will be starting on thursday or friday of this week, had a slight delay in gear shipment.

Just ordered my extra oil to dilue the T500, and I ordered my syringes and needles also.

Can’t wait!!

When I was nineteen I desperately wanted to bench 300 pounds. I thought for sure that once I hit 300, I’d be happy and satisfied with my strength levels. Shortly thereafter, I benched 300 pounds. I was proud of myself, but only satisfied for a couple of days. Once I reached that milestone, I wanted more. Nearly ten years later, I’m chasing 500 (single ply shirt) and I’m sure once I get there, I won’t be satisfied either – I’ll want more.

My point is simply this: if you’ve truly been bitten by the iron bug, you’re not going to be satisfied with attaining the initial goals you’re setting for yourself. And, if that’s the case, you’ll have used your “ace card” to reach a level of development that you could have obtained with hard work, diet and a little more time. On the other hand, if you haven’t been bitten by the iron bug and will truly be satisfied with your initial goals, you’ve run any number of risks (legal and/or health), however slight you may think they are, to reach goals that you could have reached with a little effort naturally. Sure, you’ll get there faster using than you would not using, but if the only reason you’re using is to take a shortcut to something you could get on your own, are the risks really worth it, especially at your age? Do you HAVE to be 190 at 7% RIGHT NOW?

I too thought about using at 19, even went so far as to purchase a portion of my cycle. After a lot of thought, I chose not to and it was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. Please reconsider.

[quote]burt128 wrote:
When I was nineteen I desperately wanted to bench 300 pounds. I thought for sure that once I hit 300, I’d be happy and satisfied with my strength levels. Shortly thereafter, I benched 300 pounds. I was proud of myself, but only satisfied for a couple of days. Once I reached that milestone, I wanted more. Nearly ten years later, I’m chasing 500 (single ply shirt) and I’m sure once I get there, I won’t be satisfied either – I’ll want more.

My point is simply this: if you’ve truly been bitten by the iron bug, you’re not going to be satisfied with attaining the initial goals you’re setting for yourself. And, if that’s the case, you’ll have used your “ace card” to reach a level of development that you could have obtained with hard work, diet and a little more time. On the other hand, if you haven’t been bitten by the iron bug and will truly be satisfied with your initial goals, you’ve run any number of risks (legal and/or health), however slight you may think they are, to reach goals that you could have reached with a little effort naturally. Sure, you’ll get there faster using than you would not using, but if the only reason you’re using is to take a shortcut to something you could get on your own, are the risks really worth it, especially at your age? Do you HAVE to be 190 at 7% RIGHT NOW?

I too thought about using at 19, even went so far as to purchase a portion of my cycle. After a lot of thought, I chose not to and it was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. Please reconsider.[/quote]

I’m not bitten by the ironbug so to speak… my goals are pretty much aesthetic. I’ve done modeling before (no homo, and no flames please) and I have no desire to be huge.

If I’m able to obtain my ideal physique right now, instead of waiting a couple years, I think thats the same as a 30 year old wanting to win mr olympia.

Day (-2)
Weight (178.0)

Leg Day

Squats
135x6, 225x5, 225x5, 225x4, 225x5

Lunges (not supersets)(db’s, per hand)
35x5 per leg, 35x5, 35x5, 35x5, 35x5

Leg Extension
140x5, 150x5, 170x5, 190x5, 200x5
Leg Curl (superset with above)
90x5, 100x5, 110x5, 120x4, 110x5

Glute Machine (leg kickbacks…somethin like that)
150x10x2

10 minutes cardio on the elliptical…burned 120 calories… I was sweating like George Bush on jeopardy.

Today should have been my chest day, but my triceps are still sore so I rearrnaged my schedule. Chest or back tomorrow.

Today I had some first hand experience injecting, shall we say. Not on myself. My mind was freaking out but I did it and it wasn’t bad… I think I’m ready for myself.

Caloric Intake today was 4100

[quote]AKBoxer wrote:
There really seems to be a lot of elitism on here. I think of aas is like the stock market, no one really NEEDS to use it. I mean you could just dump your money in a 2% savings account. There are risks in both, but when you invest in both responsibly you can see some great returns. It seems obvious that this isn’t a case of steroid abuse, you’ve done your research,understand the risks, and planned accordingly. So put that needle in your ass and grow. [/quote]

Okay, I’ll bite. Those that can carefully manage risk and make informed decisions about buying and trading to maximize profit on the stock market are usually somewhat experienced at handling money. They have a good credit history. They own a car. They own a house. Their investing savvy has grown over time with experience. Perhaps they have started saving for retirement.

The OP has not completed any of these tasks, which I liken to proper diet, training, nutrition, recovery, knowledge base, consistency/dedication, program design, experience, etc.

In keeping with the metaphor, say the OP does make some money in this investment. Does he know what to do with it? Will he save it, buy something essential, further invest it? Or will he let it burn a hole in his pocket and have nothing to show for it? See where I’m going with this?

Imagine the difference if his physique was compelling and he wasn’t talking about eating ice cream bars. We wouldn’t even be having this discussion. It also appears to be a classic case of all-or-nothing personality. He recently decided he was going to start training again so he’s going to maximize his gains, obstacles or inherent risks be damned.

It’s the difference between giving a 16 year-old $1,000 and a 30 year-old $1,000. Who gets more value out of it?

Since I’ve been investing in stocks since I was 15, I made over 300% in capital gains.

I don’t think we bar non-experienced stock investors from investing in stocks, hell, that’s why we have CNBC… so that the non-educated can become educated.
You don’t see Jim Cramer on MadMoney saying that if you aren’t an expert on stocks, don’t invest…

You said I have not mastered proper diet, nutrition, recovery, knowledge base, consistency, program design, experience…

  1. How have I not mastered proper diet?
  2. Isn’t nutrition the same thing?
  3. Recovery… how does one master recovery? Eat, Sleep, Don’t overtrain.
  4. knoweldge base… I think I have a solid knowledge base to use a basic cycle of test.
  5. Program design? What can you possibly pick apart on my cycle?
  6. Experience… how does one get experience without, well, experiencing something???

PS who said anything about eating IceCream bars? I said one thing about eating a 500 calorie icecream bar, I think. I believe the general consensus is that when you’re at low bodyfat, and on AAS, you shouldn’t worry about eating a strict low fat diet.

IceCream Sandwich… Dairy Fats, Protein, Carbs…

Don’t be a hater. Please take your argument to another thread, I’m trying to keep a log here… not a “should I do this?” thread.

I’m doing it. Those of you who want to advise me and help along the way, It’s much appreciated… continued support by some of you is also appreciated.

I’m sorry, you seem intelligent. But if you knew your way around the weight room, the proof would be in the pudding, so to speak. You don’t really appear to even do much lifting. Someone in your RMP thread mentioned a perfect push-up regimen only and I had to laugh at that because it hits home.

I applaud you for laying out an intelligent cycle. Which proves you’re capable of reading the stickies at the top of the steroid forum. By program design, I meant a training program, not a steroid cycle.

I guess there is just a general feeling that steroids should be earned. I don’t even use, and I can recognize that. Your physique certainly doesn’t earn you the unanimous green light to use, as in – “he’s dialed in, he’s ready to take the next step”.

I will show myself out of your thread, but just recognize the reason why the “no, don’t do it” reflex has been so resounding.

If you don’t feel me qualified to advise you because I have never used steroids, then ask someone who really knows about them whether or not you should do this. Send your pics with the request as well. See what the response is, every time. Prisoner would be a good choice to straighten you out.

For the record, I’m not anti-steroids at all. I will probably use one day. But not yet. Anyway, regards.

[quote]Affliction wrote:
It’s the difference between giving a 16 year-old $1,000 and a 30 year-old $1,000. Who gets more value out of it?[/quote]

The more intelligent one. Sorry dude, but that was a poor choice for your analogy.

[quote]Affliction wrote:
I’m sorry, you seem intelligent. But if you knew your way around the weight room, the proof would be in the pudding, so to speak. You don’t really appear to even do much lifting. Someone in your RMP thread mentioned a perfect push-up regimen only and I had to laugh at that because it hits home.

I applaud you for laying out an intelligent cycle. Which proves you’re capable of reading the stickies at the top of the steroid forum. By program design, I meant a training program, not a steroid cycle.

I guess there is just a general feeling that steroids should be earned. I don’t even use, and I can recognize that. Your physique certainly doesn’t earn you the unanimous green light to use, as in – “he’s dialed in, he’s ready to take the next step”.

I will show myself out of your thread, but just recognize the reason why the “no, don’t do it” reflex has been so resounding.

If you don’t feel me qualified to advise you because I have never used steroids, then ask someone who really knows about them whether or not you should do this. Send your pics with the request as well. See what the response is, every time. Prisoner would be a good choice to straighten you out.

For the record, I’m not anti-steroids at all. I will probably use one day. But not yet. Anyway, regards.

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Good post

God. This so proves my point about bodybuilding destroying itself at the grass roots with idiots like this. You seem knowledgable, but as i’ve said before too much knowledge causes confusion and stupid decisions.

This is my first and last post here.