[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Don’t hurt me!!!
lol good work.[/quote]
LMAO! umm’kay
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
MM
traps and shoulders lookin bigger[/quote]
shit id certainly hope they are
Well said dude F%@k those kind of skirts there just jelous…
quote]kayveeay wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
I’m 19 years old, a college student. I’ve been lifting since freshman year HS, but only got serious the last year.
vomit
This shit thread shouldn’t have made it past 2 pages, and that should have been full of warnings and flames. What the fuck has happened here?
LOL
When I logged on this morning and saw you being the most recent poster, I somehow knew you were going to post something like this.
You finally quit being a douchebag in Brook’s thread, are you coming to mine now?
Several guys warned me, others encouraged, but almost all of them, regardless of their opinion gave me advice and help along the way. I have 3 weeks left. Save your breath.
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[quote]Cortes wrote:
Whoa! wrote:
daveybaby wrote:
Tren E is much better than Tren A in that regard, kay. Not IMO, a fact. Was not sure if it was the Acetate version or not you were speaking of there. Plus, the Enanthate version does not aromatize. Sorry, I just kind of have a crush on Tren E, hahaha.
Beep beep back up the truck…
How is that a fact? Provide a reasonable reference please.
And the second part… you seem to think the acetate version will aromatize? My friend, I do not believe there to be any difference between tren A and tren E other than the amount of time the drug spends in your system.
'Splain yoself!
Yup. Just what I said.[/quote]
Whoops, sorry Cortes, I guess I missed your post.
[quote]Whoa! wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Whoa! wrote:
daveybaby wrote:
Tren E is much better than Tren A in that regard, kay. Not IMO, a fact. Was not sure if it was the Acetate version or not you were speaking of there. Plus, the Enanthate version does not aromatize. Sorry, I just kind of have a crush on Tren E, hahaha.
Beep beep back up the truck…
How is that a fact? Provide a reasonable reference please.
And the second part… you seem to think the acetate version will aromatize? My friend, I do not believe there to be any difference between tren A and tren E other than the amount of time the drug spends in your system.
'Splain yoself!
Yup. Just what I said.
Whoops, sorry Cortes, I guess I missed your post.[/quote]
No problem. Great minds think alike, my friend 
I think you have the most viewed thread ever.
Except for my thread with a pic of me in my boxer-briefs that I posted on PlayGirl.com
A regular celebrity…
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
A regular celebrity…[/quote]
I do what I can. All for the better-ment of man-(and woman)kind.
[quote]xXDevilDogXx wrote:
I think you have the most viewed thread ever.
Except for my thread with a pic of me in my boxer-briefs that I posted on PlayGirl.com[/quote]
lol!
yeah I noticed that the other day, I’m trying to catch up to the stickies. I’m sure I will eventually ya know, no one really reads those anyway 
Oye, I can definitely see how my comment can be interpreted the way it was. Shit, when I read it I did not even realize it was me and was about to post the same thing yall did! Haha! Well, not really…
The sides come quicker and harder on the acetate version of trenbolone. The coughs, IME(experience) have not come up on the Enanthate. Maybe ‘for a fact’ was a little harsh. I guess I failed to mention how everyone reacts different.
I have been looking for the article I read on the sides not being the same. Because I definitely did not just materialize these accusations on my own. I will continue looking though cause I would hate for this to soil my semi good name.
The aromatize thing was not meant towards the different estered trenbolones. I meant that towards test versus tren.
Sorry for the mix-up. And like I said, I am looking for that article.
Article or no article, I have first and second-hand knowledge of the fact that people have experienced just as many negative side effects from tren enth as tren ace.
And then the enth ester does not clear in anywhere near the time as the ace ester, so if someone does get hit with ugly sides, they’ll get worse before they get better, and will take a long time to get over.
In fact, tren seems to be one of those drugs that affects each individual so differently that I would never offer any blanket advice on what to expect from it other than terrific increases in strength and astounding nutrient partitioning.
One last thing. Tren “cough,” can be experienced even in the absence of tren, for example with test, or any oil based AAS. I can attest to this from personal experience.
I have heard it said that users of tren made from finaplix pellets are more likely to experience the cough, and I’m not sure why this cough occurs more with tren than other AAS, but a little bit of oil that enters an artery you passed through on your way into the muscle will go straight into your bloodstream and your lungs, where it will wreak all sorts of havoc.
I’m happy to have only experienced it badly one time. Both I and my wife thought I was going to die for a minute.
wikedest thread. good work man. stoked to see you did it properly and made solid gains.
looking massive.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Article or no article, I have first and second-hand knowledge of the fact that people have experienced just as many negative side effects from tren enth as tren ace.
And then the enth ester does not clear in anywhere near the time as the ace ester, so if someone does get hit with ugly sides, they’ll get worse before they get better, and will take a long time to get over.
In fact, tren seems to be one of those drugs that affects each individual so differently that I would never offer any blanket advice on what to expect from it other than terrific increases in strength and astounding nutrient partitioning.
One last thing. Tren “cough,” can be experienced even in the absence of tren, for example with test, or any oil based AAS. I can attest to this from personal experience.
I have heard it said that users of tren made from finaplix pellets are more likely to experience the cough, and I’m not sure why this cough occurs more with tren than other AAS, but a little bit of oil that enters an artery you passed through on your way into the muscle will go straight into your bloodstream and your lungs, where it will wreak all sorts of havoc.
I’m happy to have only experienced it badly one time. Both I and my wife thought I was going to die for a minute. [/quote]
For the trenbolone:
I believe the relationship is due to an acute increase in the prostaglandin F receptor-alpha. PGF2alpha is associated with Bronchoconstriction and would explain the whole tren cough.
IMO there is no reason to use tren enth, if you have access to both. People need to get over their phobia of pinning ED.
Cool info as always, eg, thanks! You are actually the first person I have ever met who has had a possible explanation for the source of the tren cough.
That last sentence was just for me, though, wasn’t it?
Aww you know I am always trying to impress you vets lol.
Hit a PR yesterday on DL, pulled 385 x 1
Weight is holding at 211
Hm… interesting thread.
In another thread Bill Roberts confirmed that tren is NOT a progestin and that tren does not induce increased prolactin!
But many here seem to say with great certainty that it does.
This is getting confusing. And here I was all set to order tren to last me a lifetime!
[quote]balisong wrote:
This is getting confusing.
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You’re telling me. I’ve been around for a number of years and I have still not seen a definitive explanation for the tren/prolactin/progesterone connection.
I can say from experience that my tren was giving me gyno last cycle. There was lactation, and a big, ugly dose of letrozole that sent my libido into a firey tailspin couldn’t get rid of the hard lump or the new fatty deposits which arose.
From now on, I will never, ever use trenbolone without tandem use of some kind of prolactin inhibitor/dopanine receptor agonist.
Glad I have found other ways to offset my overall costs.
According to BR, these prolactin/progesterone sides can only result from non-legit tren. In other words, it is a result of other compounds that find their way into what is sold as “Tren”.
Cortes, in your case can you vouche for the Tren Ace you used being 100% bonified?
Also confusing is this from steroid.com
“Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route.”
- Res Vet Sci. 1981 Jan;30(1):7-13.
Dude, awesome progress kayveeay! I did the math, and figured if I was 11% bf like you I’d only be 195. So you got like 15Lbs LBM on me son! (I’m 6’1" too) Holy crap!!.. And this was in a little under a year, huh?
Well, I’m working on leaning out first, but I do have one question for you… How did the family jewels do after your first cycle? Any size delta?