I would think they might be interested in thyroid hormone levels, but a physical exam would probably cover that
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
It’s much more enjoyable getting lean than it is gaining.[/quote]
Wut?
WUT?[/quote]
You’ve never dieted to veiny leg levels so it may be hard to understand. It just made me feel like an animal and the constant progress you can make week by week is incredibly motivating.[/quote]
I know exactly what you mean. While it probably takes more discipline than bulking, dieting is awesome in that you can make great progress in a relatively short period of time, and see changes on a weekly basis as you said
It may be more that I don’t tend to keep track of how my physique or weight changes much, so I get my enjoyment elsewhere (spare ribs, heavy squats, etc).
It’s been 4 or 5 years since I fully committed to getting lean (I ended up with a six pack at around 11.5 stone IIRC), so I’ve kinda forgotten the feels.
[quote]lemony2j wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]lemony2j wrote:
On the possible low t, when you go to the dr’s you need to push the fact that you want your testosterone levels checked and demonstrate symptoms. If they’re anything like my dr’s then they will look at you and say ‘I can tell you haven’t got low t just by looking at you’ (!)
My tt was 9.6 nmo/l (9.4-28.8) and they wouldn’t treat me due to being ‘in range’ despite suffering with bad symptoms at the time. I had to present my gp with a letter addressed to the primary care trust complaining about the lack of treatment I had received. She gave me a referral to the endocrinologist on the spot! From there it was plain sailing. I’ve never looked back, I knew I was suffering hypogonadal symptoms before treatment but didn’t realise the extent of it until I began treatment and started to feel like my old self again.
Anything below 12 nmo/l and they are required to refer you. Don’t be afraid to let them know that.[/quote]
Thanks for inputing here man, I appreciate it. I have little to no knowledge on this stuff. When they take blood what indicators are they looking at? tt mean total test?[/quote]
No problem mate, I’ve learned a lot about hypogonadism and the nhs in general in the past two years. and yes tt is total testosterone and is the main indicator of t levels.
Knowing the nhs, they will look at your tt and that will be that but some other things you want to keep an eye on are: estradiol, free testosterone, shbg, lh, fsh and prolactin. I’m sure there are others but these are the main ones that spring to mind. Depending on the blood test they order they may not test for all of these things unless further investigation is required. If any one of these is out of range it can cause low t symptoms.
Make sure you are clear on exactly what symptoms you’re suffering, if you’re in the ballpark for low t levels (between 9.4-12 nmo/l) then they won’t be interested in treating you unless you can demonstrate symptoms.[/quote]
Thanks man, I really appreciate the help!
18/1/2014 Squats (No Belt)
105k x 5 reps
112.5k x 5 reps
120k x 8 reps (PR)
Back to studying.
19/1/2014 M Press (wraps, no belt)
Felt well rested for a change. Decided to go back to my conservative approach of 531 lifts, 5 x 8-10 then one accessory for the time being.
60k x 5 reps
65k x 5 reps
70k x 5 reps (PR) - yeaaaaah
37.5k x 10 reps x 5 sets
Face Pulls
Medium Band x 15 reps x 5 sets
Pushdowns
Medium Band x 15 reps x 5 sets
Simple stuff works. Nice press PR
[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
Simple stuff works. Nice press PR[/quote]
Yeah but it’s just shit not growing cause of the lack of volume.
Cheers man, i’ll be getting the 80k next week : / .
was meant to do deads tonight but training partner pulled out so will do it tomorrow!
21/1/2014 Deads (no belt or wraps)
140k x 3 reps
155k x 3 reps
170k x 4 reps (PR) - fuuuck yeh, was good for 5 but left arm was giving out. happy since i’m only weighing 84K/185lbs right now.
Chins
Bodyweight x 6 reps x 5 sets
Fat Grip BBell Curls
20k x 15 reps x 5 sets
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
21/1/2014 Deads (no belt or wraps)
140k x 3 reps
155k x 3 reps
170k x 4 reps (PR) - fuuuck yeh, was good for 5 but left arm was giving out. happy since i’m only weighing 84K/185lbs right now.
Chins
Bodyweight x 6 reps x 5 sets
Fat Grip BBell Curls
20k x 15 reps x 5 sets[/quote]
I just got some fat grips and I love them, they seem to make curling easier on the elbows somehow. And the pump/mmc and resulting soreness was like nothing I’ve ever had before
[quote]lemony2j wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
21/1/2014 Deads (no belt or wraps)
140k x 3 reps
155k x 3 reps
170k x 4 reps (PR) - fuuuck yeh, was good for 5 but left arm was giving out. happy since i’m only weighing 84K/185lbs right now.
Chins
Bodyweight x 6 reps x 5 sets
Fat Grip BBell Curls
20k x 15 reps x 5 sets[/quote]
I just got some fat grips and I love them, they seem to make curling easier on the elbows somehow. And the pump/mmc and resulting soreness was like nothing I’ve ever had before
[/quote]
They are a handy tool for arm work for sure, I never got anything for triceps out of close grip bench press until I started using them. They are too awkward for my dumbbells though which is a shame.
22/1/2014 Bench
95k x 3 reps
102.5k x 3 reps
110k x 4 reps (PR) - Was wanting that 5th rep so bad, was so close as well.
Incline Bench
60k x 10 reps x 5 sets
Pushdowns
Heavy band x 12-15 reps x 5 sets
Looks like you’ve been on a streak with PRs recently, great job :). As for your concerns about the lower volume, I’ve always found that when my strength went up my size follow too, but not linearly. Often I’ve gone a month or two gaining strength without gaining size, when all of a sudden I’d jump up in weight. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same happened to you - if you keep gaining strength I’m sure gains in size will follow.
Keep up the good work!
[quote]furo wrote:
Looks like you’ve been on a streak with PRs recently, great job :). As for your concerns about the lower volume, I’ve always found that when my strength went up my size follow too, but not linearly. Often I’ve gone a month or two gaining strength without gaining size, when all of a sudden I’d jump up in weight. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same happened to you - if you keep gaining strength I’m sure gains in size will follow.
Keep up the good work![/quote]
Cheers man, i’m so weak I can definitely get one PR per week.
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
Looks like you’ve been on a streak with PRs recently, great job :). As for your concerns about the lower volume, I’ve always found that when my strength went up my size follow too, but not linearly. Often I’ve gone a month or two gaining strength without gaining size, when all of a sudden I’d jump up in weight. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same happened to you - if you keep gaining strength I’m sure gains in size will follow.
Keep up the good work![/quote]
Cheers man, i’m so weak I can definitely get one PR per week.[/quote]
If you’re weak I hate to think what that makes me! I think my best on 110kg is 3x3 for bench.
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
Looks like you’ve been on a streak with PRs recently, great job :). As for your concerns about the lower volume, I’ve always found that when my strength went up my size follow too, but not linearly. Often I’ve gone a month or two gaining strength without gaining size, when all of a sudden I’d jump up in weight. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same happened to you - if you keep gaining strength I’m sure gains in size will follow.
Keep up the good work![/quote]
Cheers man, i’m so weak I can definitely get one PR per week.[/quote]
If you’re weak I hate to think what that makes me! I think my best on 110kg is 3x3 for bench.[/quote]
You’re all about that functional strength now though ;).
I’m all about the lazy strength, i’m a lover not a fighter after all so no need to have the prowess of a wildcat.
LOL! I’m not sure I’m much of either haha. Would like that wildcat prowess though!
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]lemony2j wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
21/1/2014 Deads (no belt or wraps)
140k x 3 reps
155k x 3 reps
170k x 4 reps (PR) - fuuuck yeh, was good for 5 but left arm was giving out. happy since i’m only weighing 84K/185lbs right now.
Chins
Bodyweight x 6 reps x 5 sets
Fat Grip BBell Curls
20k x 15 reps x 5 sets[/quote]
I just got some fat grips and I love them, they seem to make curling easier on the elbows somehow. And the pump/mmc and resulting soreness was like nothing I’ve ever had before
[/quote]
They are a handy tool for arm work for sure, I never got anything for triceps out of close grip bench press until I started using them. They are too awkward for my dumbbells though which is a shame.
[/quote]
I’m definitely giv
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]lemony2j wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
21/1/2014 Deads (no belt or wraps)
140k x 3 reps
155k x 3 reps
170k x 4 reps (PR) - fuuuck yeh, was good for 5 but left arm was giving out. happy since i’m only weighing 84K/185lbs right now.
Chins
Bodyweight x 6 reps x 5 sets
Fat Grip BBell Curls
20k x 15 reps x 5 sets[/quote]
I just got some fat grips and I love them, they seem to make curling easier on the elbows somehow. And the pump/mmc and resulting soreness was like nothing I’ve ever had before
[/quote]
They are a handy tool for arm work for sure, I never got anything for triceps out of close grip bench press until I started using them. They are too awkward for my dumbbells though which is a shame.
[/quote]
I’m definitely going to give the close grip bench with fat grips a try as I don’t feel them much in my tri’s either.
Congrats on the recent pb’s. What are your current training goals and how long before the next diet?