I’m still curious on if you have kids myself.
Thanks, I’ll give it a listen this week.
Haven’t really followed along, but if we’re talking about optimal sleep NIH suggests 7+ hours.
Jocko is an awesome freak of nature, lol.
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For years the recommendation was that adults needed 8hrs of sleep, or close to it to stay happy and healthy.
Some people went against that recommendation. They didn’t stop there. They would take any chance they had, to say “thats bullshit, what do they know? I’m fine with less sleep”. They would point it out, any chance they had, to others. They were a special breed you see.
Then more studies were done and the data came in. Adults REALLY do need 7-10hrs of sleep.
But instead of acknowledging the data, adjusting their sleep habits, they changed their stance from “I’m fine” to “I’m good enough, my health and longevity aren’t important to me anymore, or atleast my priorities have changed and it’s more important that I spend more time awake” an interesting pivot if you ask me.
Aside from this thread I hear too often that “it was his time to go” when people die in their 50s. “Their card was punched” when someone got cancer and died. A feeling that we are absolved of an control over our health and how lonc we live. BULLLSHIT. Your diet, your habits add up. I’ll never forget the guy that I worked with at the last place, he ate arbys everyday. He ended up getting colon cancer, and after a few months he was back at work eating arbys regulalry. He was the type to say “god decides when you die”, that way he can keep eating arbys guilt free, cause it doesn’t affect his health, right?
I really don’t care how much anyone sleeps, I care when people deceive themselves and potentially others by claiming they’re fine and they dont need proper sleep. I also don’t care that people eat arbys, but I do care when they argue that there are no ill effects on their health from it, and that they have no control over their health.
I especially have a problem when people don’t respect (my) habits to take care of myself. Often times it’s the unhealthy people that are trying to pull me (and some of you I’m sure) from our healthy choices. I hope everyone can get a better understanding of what is good
for us and what is not, and respect each others choices either way.
We have much more control over our health and longevity than we think.
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Damnit; it looks like that bug where my posts don’t show up has struck again.
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did you post data somewhere? Or are you just going to keep saying it exists without sharing a link, or even telling us what the data is?
EDIT: shit dude, it’s a 2 hour podcast. no, I can’t even do that when I’m off work. sorry man, if that’s what we’re working with here, I’m out.
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What? You added a link to a study which states 4 hours of sleep are 1% of the population. Cool. But, sorry but what does that have to do with “isdatnutty” ? He explicitly stated he gets 6 hours of sleep not 4. Big difference.
Also, ask anyone who has kids…they’ll pretty much all tell you that at different phases of the child’s life (infancy / then potty training / then some kids just aren’t “good” sleepers etc etc…) they had to learn to adapt to less sleep - might not last forever, esp if they keep their kids on a good schedule, but at the least you’re talking 6 months to 1 year sometimes more of affected sleep patterns.
Good questions…all good questions.
Are you choosing to ignore the poscast I posted? Or are you just unhappy with that form of data? It’s in there, you just have to listen to it. A lot of good info in that one, a lot.
My 3-year-old still wakes up at least once a night.
My understanding so far is that having kids is just an excuse, but I keep hoping for an opportunity to further explore that topic…
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My 4 y/o sleeps like a rock, My other is nearly 3 and just has never been a good sleeper. It’s tough!
Side note: I go back and forth with mama, because she is far more lenient on bedtimes and schedule than I am, so when I get them going on a schedule I sleep better - again I know its hard and each kid is unique - A little trick I found is to take them running with me …I have to go extra slow and its hard because our sidewalks are old and bumpy, but if they get a good 1/2 - 3/4 a mile in with their short little legs, they pass out for most of the night an hour later.
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My 1 year old sleeps really good. It’s rare for him to get up. I feel your pain, man.
We try our best to be on a schedule, but you know how that goes, lol.
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Indeed - my 2 are boys and just non stop energy, but I find after regular playing that jog really does burn out a lot of that night time jitter. This is a new experiment that I’ve only started about a month ago, no more than 2-3 times a week as I’m not sure “long distance” is great for a toddler too frequently.
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I’m not ignoring it, I’m at work and I can’t watch a podcast.
dude that sucks. I’m definitely past that. I mostly only have night time visits from my son when he’s sick, thirsty or there’s a thunderstorm. Sometimes other outside noises scare him too. But it’s not nightly anymore.
He does come in about an hour before I actually get out of bed every morning to snuggle for my last hour of sleep. I don’t mind that.
Oh and he’s 4, 5 in august.
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Ya, I don’t know what it is, m an. Most nights he just wants to come in for a quick hug so it’s not that big a deal, but he still wakes up basically melting down once or twice a week. I guess it’s night terrors, which I didn’t know was a thing for most of my life… He also comes in our room between 5AM and 6AM every morning and he is rearing to go (and chat…) most days. My wife’s normally up getting ready so we just let him do his thing.
It’s not that bad, though. I’m pretty good about being in bed by 10 so I still get about 7 hours of sleep with one quick wake-up call. It’s much better than it was a year ago with him and his younger brother.
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Me and the missus spent most of 2016 waking every hour to feed our child and change his stoma bag. Damn irresponsible of us, turns out.
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Excuses.
Even at 3&4 I took my kiddo out on hikes for hours. Not running, but plenty of hills, creeks, climbing, etc. By the end I’d be beat and he’d literally be running circles around me.
Now at 6 he has endless legs. A few times this spring I’ve just sat on the porch for a couple of hours with my stopwatch as he runs laps around the house.
He does sleep well too.
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I know, right? There was me trying to look after my babies health and put a roof over their head and all the time I should have been worrying about unnamed “bad things”
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