Strong mofo but “pound for pound” I’ve seen much stronger so it doesnt impress me as much as a lighter lifter lifting more relative to his bodyweight.
That’s still pretty damned impressive even IF he didn’t make parallel. I would be crushed by that much weight just being on my shoulders. Factor his bodyweight into the weight of the squad and that’s a hell of a load on the muscles/joints.
Of course, even if I never lift that much weight, I CAN still see my own Johnson without needing the aid of mirrors or hoisting equipment.
I hope Lewis loses a couple of hundred pounds, for health’s sake.
Dude. He’s so fat, he starts off pretty much parallel… And in response to someone’s deadlift comment, like think about the balancing act there. Like the bar is gonna be way in front of him. For the same reason. But still, as much as we like to make fun of this dude, that’s still scary.
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99.9% of people don’t understand parellel.
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I don’t see the lift as the most impressive squat done by a big man, but the fact remains that it is the largest. It is intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer that this man’s goal was not relative strength, but rather absolute strength. When you factor in that he had to squat 75% of his quite massive bodyweight with the 1200 pounds, it becomes an impressive display of absolute strength. Not the most impressive, but there are many men trying to squat 1200 in that federation, and only he has.
IMO, one of the most impressive squatters in the WPO is Paul Childress. He competes at 308 (meaning his actual bodyweight is probably 320ish) and consistently squats well against his larger competitors. He squatted 1146 in Chicago, and his depth is typically very good.
Little guys lifting big weight impress me as much as large guys running fast.
If he manage to lose 100 lbs while preserving LBM, he will probably squat even more.
This is because hes currently squatting 200-300 lbs of non-functional bodymass on top of the weights.
[quote]bigjoey wrote:
Veszy wrote:
very impressive amount of weight to be moving, but at the end of the day it less than 2 and half times bodyweight for him, i’d rather see an athletic 200 pound man squat 500,
I can never understand this whole pound-for-pound strength bullshit that people carry on about. Don’t get me wrong, I respect relative strength; but in the end the strongest man in the world is the one who can lift the most weight. Period. Even if he could only do one and a half times bodyweight, he’s still in reality stronger than the 200 pounder or even a 150 pounder squatting 500lbs. It’s not as if getting big is easy. You try putting on enough muscle to squat 1201lbs. To be the strongest, you must get big.
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did i say it was easy getting big, no i didn’t. yea muscle but there’s alot of fat on him, i don’t see the point in getting that big just so ya can move a huge amount of weight, i’d like to see someone athletic do a heavy squat.
[quote]jlesk68 wrote:
Veszy wrote:
very impressive amount of weight to be moving, but at the end of the day it less than 2 and half times bodyweight for him, i’d rather see an athletic 200 pound man squat 500,
Yeah sure, and we’ll rather see a 110 lbs dude do 1000 body weight squats, right?..[/quote]
yea i would anyway.
[quote]Veszy wrote:
bigjoey wrote:
Veszy wrote:
very impressive amount of weight to be moving, but at the end of the day it less than 2 and half times bodyweight for him, i’d rather see an athletic 200 pound man squat 500,
I can never understand this whole pound-for-pound strength bullshit that people carry on about. Don’t get me wrong, I respect relative strength; but in the end the strongest man in the world is the one who can lift the most weight. Period. Even if he could only do one and a half times bodyweight, he’s still in reality stronger than the 200 pounder or even a 150 pounder squatting 500lbs. It’s not as if getting big is easy. You try putting on enough muscle to squat 1201lbs. To be the strongest, you must get big.
did i say it was easy getting big, no i didn’t. yea muscle but there’s alot of fat on him, i don’t see the point in getting that big just so ya can move a huge amount of weight, i’d like to see someone athletic do a heavy squat.
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Regardless of what you like, the fact remains that noone lighter - and, dare I say it, less fat - than him has squatted 1201 pounds. Steve Goggins was admittedly farely ‘athletic’ when he did the first ever 500kg (1100lbs) squat (no questions about his depth either, damn near ass to grass), but he is the exception rather than the rule and besides which has not been competitive in the race to 1200lbs. By and large, big squatters have big bellies. The Jeff Lewis’, Andy Boltons, Brent Mikesells, Garry Franks, Brian Siders’, and Hossein Redazezahs (or however the fuck you spell it) of the world don’t give a shit that some people think they’re “too” fat, or not ‘athletic’ enough - in the end they are the strongest people in the world, beating out those perceived by others to be more 'athletic ’ than them.
[quote]Veszy wrote:
did i say it was easy getting big, no i didn’t. yea muscle but there’s alot of fat on him, i don’t see the point in getting that big just so ya can move a huge amount of weight, i’d like to see someone athletic do a heavy squat.
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Thats why he is the powerlifter and your not, he doesnt care about looks just how much he can squat.
[quote]RickJames wrote:
I don’t see the lift as the most impressive squat done by a big man, but the fact remains that it is the largest. It is intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer that this man’s goal was not relative strength, but rather absolute strength. When you factor in that he had to squat 75% of his quite massive bodyweight with the 1200 pounds, it becomes an impressive display of absolute strength. Not the most impressive, but there are many men trying to squat 1200 in that federation, and only he has.
IMO, one of the most impressive squatters in the WPO is Paul Childress. He competes at 308 (meaning his actual bodyweight is probably 320ish) and consistently squats well against his larger competitors. He squatted 1146 in Chicago, and his depth is typically very good.
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Well said… and I think Brent Mikesell had the best wpo/apf style squats out there. He was the real deal.
Personally, I don’t care how big he is, that’s his choice. It’s still a 1201 squat, it’s still officially the largest ever, and our opinions or not, it was passed by the judges for that day. Interestingly, though, this reminds me of hearing a story about Anthony Clark doing a 1100 something squat and turning it down himself because he only got two whites, and he didn’t want there to be any controversy!!! Anyone else remember that one???
right i have my opinion and you have yours, did you see the lad that came second to Hossein Redazezahs(i’ll just use how you spelled it) in the recent weightlifting chamionships he was fairly impressive
[quote]Thats why he is the powerlifter and your not, he doesnt care about looks just how much he can squat.
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well i am actually, but why risk your health by just putting on as much bodyweight as possible so ya can lift more, it’ll get out of control someday.
this guy shud definitely cut 
[quote]Veszy wrote:
Thats why he is the powerlifter and your not, he doesnt care about looks just how much he can squat.
well i am actually, but why risk your health by just putting on as much bodyweight as possible so ya can lift more, it’ll get out of control someday.
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I think most of us are with you - we wouldn’t want to squat 1200 if it meant having to weigh damn near 600lbs. But we all draw the bodyweight line somewhere (his is WAY out there). If he is happy trading away years of his life for present glory, that is his call. But hell, most of us here are “obese” on BMI charts due to our muscle mass. We all push it a little. He just pushes it a LOT. haha.
[quote]Veszy wrote:
Thats why he is the powerlifter and your not, he doesnt care about looks just how much he can squat.
well i am actually, but why risk your health by just putting on as much bodyweight as possible so ya can lift more, it’ll get out of control someday.
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The same reason people risk anything. Getting stronger is more important to him than the chance (or likelyhood) that he will someday develop health problems. People will risk health and more to get something they really want, and you’d better believe you have got to really want it to get a 1200 pound squat.