James Toney VS Mike Tyson

[quote]Robert A wrote:

I really do not understand the Martin Luther King reference. I am pretty sure it wasn’t supposed to be a compliment though.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

If you’re Martin Luther King, I like to think of myself as Malcolm X.

Minus the bloody death, of course.

Some footage of early Tyson:

Versus Berbick to take the title.

Versus Spinks. I think this was the best Tyson we ever saw.

I think this is better footwork than Liston showed, not sure about Frazier. Regards,

Robert A

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

I really do not understand the Martin Luther King reference. I am pretty sure it wasn’t supposed to be a compliment though.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

If you’re Martin Luther King, I like to think of myself as Malcolm X.

Minus the bloody death, of course.[/quote]

Brother, you are Irish. If you go Nation of Islam your family functions are going to get interesting.

You two guys - I am not angry or upset. Was just frustrated that on a serious forum like this, the majority of the content of this thread was pretty subpar. No point saying much more about that, as we will just go back and forth over it.

I already stated that this stuff never goes anywhere, no one is ever persuaded to change their stances over these subjects, which is of course fine and normal. It’s just supposed to be a discussion, my guy is better because… It would make more sense to me for someone to say Foreman beats Tyson, cos look at this jab or right cross or whatever. Rather than Foreman DESTROYS Tyson cos Tyson IS SO MENTALLY WEAK. I just don’t get that kind of approach. It is not credible.

Both of you know your stuff, I am not hear to get “butt hurt” or to pointlessly argue and get angry. It’s just a fucking internet forum lol.

Having watched the Spinks fight, it is a genuine shame that none of these guys are around anymore. The HW division is just so fucking poor. If any of you are interested, there are a couple of Brits who are OK, one is David Price and another is a young kid Anthony Joshua who is going for the Super Heavy gold this summer and is 22 and definitely has some potential.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Robert A wrote:

I really do not understand the Martin Luther King reference. I am pretty sure it wasn’t supposed to be a compliment though.

Regards,

Robert A[/quote]

If you’re Martin Luther King, I like to think of myself as Malcolm X.

Minus the bloody death, of course.[/quote]
you’re more like al sharpton, dumb shit just pours out of your mouth

[quote]yolo84 wrote:
You two guys - I am not angry or upset. Was just frustrated that on a serious forum like this, the majority of the content of this thread was pretty subpar. No point saying much more about that, as we will just go back and forth over it.

I already stated that this stuff never goes anywhere, no one is ever persuaded to change their stances over these subjects, which is of course fine and normal. It’s just supposed to be a discussion, my guy is better because… It would make more sense to me for someone to say Foreman beats Tyson, cos look at this jab or right cross or whatever. Rather than Foreman DESTROYS Tyson cos Tyson IS SO MENTALLY WEAK. I just don’t get that kind of approach. It is not credible.

Both of you know your stuff, I am not hear to get “butt hurt” or to pointlessly argue and get angry. It’s just a fucking internet forum lol.
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I mostly agree with you. The reason I don’t speak (or write) with much of a gray area is because I truly believe my opinion. That’s all. It doesn’t mean yours isn’t valid.

You’ve also got to remember that this topic has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum - everything about heavyweight boxing history kind of devolves onto the Ali vs. Tyson argument - so I wasn’t going seriously in depth. Just stating my case.

Although I do really get tired of talking about Tyson quickly, because his career just isn’t that impressive, I do agree with you that on his best night, he probably could have beaten any fighter that’s ever fought - to say that I think Ali beats him is actually me saying that I think if their “best night” versions fought ten times, Ali beats him maybe 6 or 7 of those times. That’s not to say Tyson couldn’t win.

When I was younger I did dismiss Tyson a bit too much as a fighter - when I was growing up, Tyson had already become something of a joke, the guy who bit Evander’s ear off and got his ass beat all night by Lewis’ jab. Hell, I was 10 when he came out of jail.

But as I’ve gained more experience boxing, I see that Tyson really was a terrific, super talented fighter. Nobody uses angles like he did, text book, beautiful angles that let him really take advantage of his power and speed. The guy was a once in a lifetime combo of speed, power, and accuracy… it’s a shame that he could not put it all together after a certain point.

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Having watched the Spinks fight, it is a genuine shame that none of these guys are around anymore. The HW division is just so fucking poor. If any of you are interested, there are a couple of Brits who are OK, one is David Price and another is a young kid Anthony Joshua who is going for the Super Heavy gold this summer and is 22 and definitely has some potential.[/quote]

I haven’t watched a heavyweight fight in years. Haye made it a little exciting for a day or two but then it faded… with any luck, once the klitschos retire, it will gain some momentum again.

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

you’re more like al sharpton, dumb shit just pours out of your mouth[/quote]

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

you’re more like al sharpton, dumb shit just pours out of your mouth[/quote]
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showing my old avatar of some random dude, from a bet I lost, in an old NBA thread means what exactly?

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

you’re more like al sharpton, dumb shit just pours out of your mouth[/quote]
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showing my old avatar of some random dude, from a bet I lost, in an old NBA thread means what exactly?[/quote]

Yea. I bet it’s not you. Of course it’s not you.

hahahhaha.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

you’re more like al sharpton, dumb shit just pours out of your mouth[/quote]
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showing my old avatar of some random dude, from a bet I lost, in an old NBA thread means what exactly?[/quote]

Yea. I bet it’s not you. Of course it’s not you.

hahahhaha.[/quote]
what are you 12? The old thread still exists if you care to look. Look I’m calling you out like a man quite being a pussy, you know I’d whoop your ass. All you’ve got is shitty boxing and a broken shoulder, I’ve told you my credentials just be honest you’re SCARED.

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

you’re more like al sharpton, dumb shit just pours out of your mouth[/quote]
[/quote]
showing my old avatar of some random dude, from a bet I lost, in an old NBA thread means what exactly?[/quote]

Yea. I bet it’s not you. Of course it’s not you.

hahahhaha.[/quote]
what are you 12? The old thread still exists if you care to look. Look I’m calling you out like a man quite being a pussy, you know I’d whoop your ass. All you’ve got is shitty boxing and a broken shoulder, I’ve told you my credentials just be honest you’re SCARED.[/quote]

You’re just so extreme… shit I nearly wet myself just reading your post.

LOL.

[quote]sardines12 wrote:
what are you 12? The old thread still exists if you care to look. Look I’m calling you out like a man quite being a pussy, you know I’d whoop your ass. All you’ve got is shitty boxing and a broken shoulder, I’ve told you my credentials just be honest you’re SCARED.[/quote]
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Doubt I should be getting involved, but…

Is there a link to this or are you guys joking?

“I’ve told you my credentials” - what are they I am genuinely interested.

Sorry if you’re both just kidding.

[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Is there a link to this or are you guys joking?

“I’ve told you my credentials” - what are they I am genuinely interested.

Sorry if you’re both just kidding.[/quote]

Haha noooo he’s not kidding. He’s mad because… well, I have no idea. His job probably sucks, and his girlfriend’s wang is bigger than his… who knows. My guess is he’s an unemployed kid in his early 20s who thinks he’s going to be a UFC fighter one day.

But he’s spent the last three years furiously masturbating to the idea that I will one day meet up with him in Ohio to fight him. I have no idea why… but at this point it’s just funny.

I enjoy it. It’s kind of cool knowing I have a fan so devoted. Even if he is sort of a nancy boy.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Is there a link to this or are you guys joking?

“I’ve told you my credentials” - what are they I am genuinely interested.

Sorry if you’re both just kidding.[/quote]

Haha noooo he’s not kidding. He’s mad because… well, I have no idea. His job probably sucks, and his girlfriend’s wang is bigger than his… who knows. My guess is he’s an unemployed kid in his early 20s who thinks he’s going to be a UFC fighter one day.

But he’s spent the last three years furiously masturbating to the idea that I will one day meet up with him in Ohio to fight him. I have no idea why… but at this point it’s just funny.

I enjoy it. It’s kind of cool knowing I have a fan so devoted. Even if he is sort of a nancy boy.
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I’ll fight you anywhere, find a ring and get some gloves, I’ll even give you some time to get in shape. I only need one arm to beat you anyway. Ya’ll can see irish is a pure COWARD, manup and just say you don’t want to.

[quote]sardines12 wrote:
I’ll fight you anywhere, find a ring and get some gloves, I’ll even give you some time to get in shape. I only need one arm to beat you anyway. Ya’ll can see irish is a pure COWARD, manup and just say you don’t want to. [/quote]

What fighting background you got bro?

And dude why did you get EXTREME tattoo’d on your chest? You must have regretted that straight away.

sigh* same’ole bullshit from the same’ole polluting vagabond.

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Is there a link to this or are you guys joking?

“I’ve told you my credentials” - what are they I am genuinely interested.

Sorry if you’re both just kidding.[/quote]

Haha noooo he’s not kidding. He’s mad because… well, I have no idea. His job probably sucks, and his girlfriend’s wang is bigger than his… who knows. My guess is he’s an unemployed kid in his early 20s who thinks he’s going to be a UFC fighter one day.

But he’s spent the last three years furiously masturbating to the idea that I will one day meet up with him in Ohio to fight him. I have no idea why… but at this point it’s just funny.

I enjoy it. It’s kind of cool knowing I have a fan so devoted. Even if he is sort of a nancy boy.
[/quote]
I’ll fight you anywhere, find a ring and get some gloves, I’ll even give you some time to get in shape. I only need one arm to beat you anyway. Ya’ll can see irish is a pure COWARD, manup and just say you don’t want to. [/quote]

Its only 188$ from colorado to NJ on greyhound

shit only takes 1D, 16H, 35M with 3 transfers.

for a young buck like you its not even long enough for your low back to tighten up.
some of those buses have wifi.

I bet if you get there early you can comandeer the entire back row.
so whats its like your whole paycheck-
get your nutrition a 4 pack of muscle milk and a bucket of KFC some paper towels and a snuggie
some moufwash
dont forget to pack your phone charger and your mouthpiece
and good to go.

[quote]zerocharisma wrote:
Its only 188$ from colorado to NJ on greyhound

shit only takes 1D, 16H, 35M with 3 transfers.

for a young buck like you its not even long enough for your low back to tighten up.
some of those buses have wifi.

I bet if you get there early you can comandeer the entire back row.
so whats its like your whole paycheck-
get your nutrition a 4 pack of muscle milk and a bucket of KFC some paper towels and a snuggie
some moufwash
dont forget to pack your phone charger and your mouthpiece
and good to go.[/quote]

Are you and Sardines the same guy?
Are you suggesting that a grown man FLY to meet another grown man to have a fight over a fucking internet forum disagreement? A real, actual fight?

I have no doubt that in real life you are a total fucking pussy. Typical posturing BS. I bet you have dropped your load a thousand times in your pathetic life so far. So you act like a tough guy on T-Nation. LOL.

No grown man says this shit. Jesus.

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:
I’ll fight you anywhere, find a ring and get some gloves, I’ll even give you some time to get in shape. I only need one arm to beat you anyway. Ya’ll can see irish is a pure COWARD, manup and just say you don’t want to. [/quote]

What fighting background you got bro?

And dude why did you get EXTREME tattoo’d on your chest? You must have regretted that straight away.[/quote]
That was never me “bro”
What fighting background do I have? I answered that awhile back. And I’m just suggesting he fights me in a gym legally, lets do it with gloves.

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]zerocharisma wrote:
Its only 188$ from colorado to NJ on greyhound

shit only takes 1D, 16H, 35M with 3 transfers.

for a young buck like you its not even long enough for your low back to tighten up.
some of those buses have wifi.

I bet if you get there early you can comandeer the entire back row.
so whats its like your whole paycheck-
get your nutrition a 4 pack of muscle milk and a bucket of KFC some paper towels and a snuggie
some moufwash
dont forget to pack your phone charger and your mouthpiece
and good to go.[/quote]

nah bro.

Im new just like you.

I am suggesting no such thing.

I am however suggesting that Drewdines pack his ass on a bus
a grey hound bus to be specific.
more suitalbe to his station, age, and price point.

and perhaps after some years of similar shit talk - he should get his bus ticket
and take the fight to
fighting irish26

but he should watch that left - it will hit yo face like a fat bitches titty

you are insinuating you have a deep familiarity to how a homosexual might sound
research pays off.

yes and I do indeed want a cookie.

cmon son-
no need to get all religious
jesus is kind of a busy brother