Jake's First Cycle Log

The only advice I am not willing to take is diet and training advice. Reason being (as I said many times), I paid someone to help me out with my diet, therefore, I am sticking to that diet. With training, I just like to do things my own way. I don’t know why this should be so hard to understand.

[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Damn you’re ignorant.
That’s what makes us so mad. You’re so fucking clueless about any of this shit, yet you continue to belittle and shun the advice of people here who know so much.

                Piss off Jake.

      Go get a bra, double D's should fit nice.[/quote]

have you never paid for something in your life that ended up being bad for you? i have, and that was the 2nd time i got crabs…

[quote]Game_over wrote:
have you never paid for something in your life that ended up being bad for you? i have, and that was the 2nd time i got crabs…[/quote]

Yes! But, the guy who is helping me has helped plenty of his clients achieve great results. Also, he has competed in bodybuilding, powerlifting, and strongman competitions all at a very impressive level. That is why I am so unwilling to change my diet.

well bushy i have come to the conclusion that there is not too much on this board anymore to really take too seriously. Now a few good ones are popping up here and there and thats awesome! I love when i can open a thread and learn something new or see a different approach to things. Plus i gotta try and keep you guys laughin to keep the good guys around! lol

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
No dude. I am convinced that your high carb diet is going to make you fatter. The extra fat will facilitate greater conversion of T to E, causing increased side effects.

Dropping carbs to reduce E won’t work. You would need to get leaner to manipulate E through diet alone. Since being lean isn’t your plan for the forseeable future, you will need to control E in the same way that we do.

Bushy[/quote]

By controlling estrogen like you guys do, you mean using anti-estrogens?
I will get some pictures tonight or tomorrow, but I don’t think my body fat has increased a whole lot (I could be wrong). Also, remember my metabolism is that of a race horse.

Even eating as much as I was in the past with the diet I am on now, it still didn’t cause weight gain. To be honest, I have been incredibly inconsistent with the meal plan I am on now. I miss meals left and right. Just like Dave said in his article, i must not want it fucking bad enough. This is something that needs to change.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Excuses Jake.

And FYI, I have never seen a fat racehorse.

Bushy[/quote]

True, but you would think with the amount of food I eat that it would bring weight gain and it hasn’t.

[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:
The only advice I am not willing to take is diet and training advice. Reason being (as I said many times), I paid someone to help me out with my diet, therefore, I am sticking to that diet. With training, I just like to do things my own way. I don’t know why this should be so hard to understand.
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Em didnt World help you for FREE…
So why did you go pay a guy MONEY when you were clearly getting results for FREE…

I will admit Jake you put me off my cycle for a month or two i was fricking terrified im make a train wreck of it like you.
But i changed it all around now its all in shape, i dearly hope you will change and BEG World for his help because if you next pics show MORE weight gain your in trouble.

[quote]Corkonian wrote:
Jakebambeeno wrote:
The only advice I am not willing to take is diet and training advice. Reason being (as I said many times), I paid someone to help me out with my diet, therefore, I am sticking to that diet. With training, I just like to do things my own way. I don’t know why this should be so hard to understand.

Em didnt World help you for FREE…
So why did you go pay a guy MONEY when you were clearly getting results for FREE…
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I paid him before world. True, I was getting results with world, but that was mainly body composition. I did gain some strength, but then again, I had that strength and much more before I trained with world (before I quit lifting for some time). So, it was no surprise I was gaining strength I had in the past.

[quote]Jakebambeeno wrote:

I paid him before world. True, I was getting results with world, but that was mainly body composition. I did gain some strength, but then again, I had that strength and much more before I trained with world (before I quit lifting for some time). So, it was no surprise I was gaining strength I had in the past.[/quote]

EEERRRR let me get this straight you were paying some “mr fantastic” money to train you and you look like that ???
Then World trains you for free you get results and you keep on with that dope and dump the guy who knows his shit…
Man if this makes sense in your head then you really need to sit down and think about stuff, sooner rather than later

[quote]Corkonian wrote:
EEERRRR let me get this straight you were paying some “mr fantastic” money to train you and you look like that ???
Then World trains you for free you get results and you keep on with that dope and dump the guy who knows his shit…
Man if this makes sense in your head then you really need to sit down and think about stuff, sooner rather than later
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… It was an off season diet program. Designed to minimize fat gain and increase muscle mass. believe it or not, I was MUCH fatter with this guy when I started. I gained a little muscle mass, but it was at a very slow rate. Therefore, we kept upping the carbohydrate days to every other day. Even now, I am still struggling to gain. Maybe it would help if I got all my 8 meals in. My goal is NOT to lose body fat right now. It is to gain muscle mass. You will get half ass results if you choose both goals because they contradict each other.

This trainer of yours boggles my mind to be honest, if that is really true then god help the others he is “helping”
Also in regards to your waxy maize it is now becoming a fast redundant “fad” thing.

If you mix ANYTHING with it besides bcaa’s or creatine, it loses its ability to spike insulin so your basically consuming it to er consume it with your p/w shake…
A reason why your not gaining ???
Maybe whack that crap out of your “diet” and take away a good 100-200 carbs

OR

You have to follow this way from Justin Harris’s site.
The HMW is in your case waxy maize

[quote]Corkonian wrote:
This trainer of yours boggles my mind to be honest, if that is really true then god help the others he is “helping”
Also in regards to your waxy maize it is now becoming a fast redundant “fad” thing.

If you mix ANYTHING with it besides bcaa’s or creatine, it loses its ability to spike insulin so your basically consuming it to er consume it with your p/w shake…
A reason why your not gaining ???
Maybe whack that crap out of your “diet” and take away a good 100-200 carbs

OR

You have to follow this way from Justin Harris’s site.
The HMW is in your case waxy maize

For this very reason, it’s my belief that added amino-based nutrients should be kept to a minimum during ingestion of a HMW carbohydrate drink. My post workout recommendation for a 200 lb bodybuilder would be 75g of a HMW carbohydrate mixed with 5g creatine, 8g L-leucine, and 5-10g of BCAA’s. This meal should be followed, approximately 15-30 minutes later, with a meal containing protein and complex carbohydrates; preferably a fast-digesting liquid protein such as a whey isolate, and some complex carbohydrates.
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Thanks for your input. This trainer is, in fact, one of the nutritionist off of Justin Harris’s website. Therefore, he follows a lot of the same protocols as Justin does. This is the person who created my diet plan which is what I am following now (except I don’t follow it as close as I should and miss meals). Again, this is not a fat loss program, it is an off season diet plan. How is taking calories (carbs in this case) out going to help me gain weight if the present amount of calories isn’t doing so?

I can’t have and dairy products, and dextose/maltodextrin causes me bloat. I am not really too familiar with HMW, but I will look into it.

HMW are carbs like waxy maize.
You SHOULD NOT BE mixing maize with protein powder you get the worst of both worlds.
Its really that simple.

Saturday 04/05/08 training

None. Triceps are pretty sore today, and my low back is still fried. I will probably do some dynamic stretches and some static stuff tonight. Still need to decide what I am doing for training tomorrow.

Just a guess, but I bet you didn’t verify the “nutritionists” FORMAL educational background? Maybe even questioned him/her about his/her other clients? Ask for pictures? Stats?

If I can get my name on Jay Cutler’s website as a nutrionist, will you pay me to give you a diet?

[quote]GrabAKimber wrote:
Just a guess, but I bet you didn’t verify the “nutritionists” FORMAL educational background? Maybe even questioned him/her about his/her other clients? Ask for pictures? Stats?

If I can get my name on Jay Cutler’s website as a nutrionist, will you pay me to give you a diet?[/quote]

I’m am really getting tired of this. Yes, this guy does have PLENTY of clients who speak results and show results. His clients are not only a testament, but he is also as well. He does have an educational background. But, does that really mean much in this sport?

Sunday 04/06/08 training

None. Doing DE bench tomorrow. Still not noticing anything from the test yet.