Even with BW Dips, after the set I have a horrible pain in my collar bone, even going stupid controlled. I hate all of you.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Even with BW Dips, after the set I have a horrible pain in my collar bone, even going stupid controlled. I hate all of you. [/quote]
I get that exact same deep pain with parallel bar dips if I don’t warm up well (especially if I haven’t trained them for a while). I’m not bothered by it with ring dips, I have no idea why.
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Even with BW Dips, after the set I have a horrible pain in my collar bone, even going stupid controlled. I hate all of you. [/quote]
I get that exact same deep pain with parallel bar dips if I don’t warm up well (especially if I haven’t trained them for a while). I’m not bothered by it with ring dips, I have no idea why.[/quote]
Need more muscle. Need more incline bench.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Nice dips bro, I found I am sticking now in triceps on my bench and not chest. What are you fave tricep builders? dips? Im starting close grip again as well.[/quote]
I do think it’s hard to beat dips, especially if you go to the point where you have to grind out that last rep. That’s a true test of your triceps right there. If your elbows can take it (you’re young, you’ll be fine) I also loved doing band pushdowns. Like doing them all the goddamn time until you had a permanent tricep pump and painful arm cramps. The increasing resistance as you go really hits the low part of the tricep near the elbow, which is really key for bench moreso than the big pretty part up top.
[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
In high school, good ole Vinny could dip 3 plates for sets of 5. I was about 180lbs back then with a 335lb bench. [/quote]
pffft whatevs, high school Vinny sounds like a total scrublord
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Even with BW Dips, after the set I have a horrible pain in my collar bone, even going stupid controlled. I hate all of you. [/quote]
I get that exact same deep pain with parallel bar dips if I don’t warm up well (especially if I haven’t trained them for a while). I’m not bothered by it with ring dips, I have no idea why.[/quote]
Damn that’s a shame. I wonder if there isn’t a body angle you could play with or try shrugging your shoulders up more or something that would relieve that impingement during the movement.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Even with BW Dips, after the set I have a horrible pain in my collar bone, even going stupid controlled. I hate all of you. [/quote]
I get that exact same deep pain with parallel bar dips if I don’t warm up well (especially if I haven’t trained them for a while). I’m not bothered by it with ring dips, I have no idea why.[/quote]
Damn that’s a shame. I wonder if there isn’t a body angle you could play with or try shrugging your shoulders up more or something that would relieve that impingement during the movement.[/quote]
More overhead and incline work will fix that srs.
1/11/2014
Strongman Saturday!
18" Deadlift:
135 5x
225 5x
315 3x
405 3x
495 2x
545 3x
545 3x
240lb Atlas Stone over 48" bar:
3 sets of 5
Fat Grip Single Arm Dumbbell Press:
100lbs for 3 sets of 3 with each arm
DB Shrugs:
100’s 20x
100’s 30x
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Need more muscle. Need more incline bench.[/quote]
Ah simple enough then.
Furo and Spidey you guys need to go ahead and build enough muscle to where you look like this ^
Then you should be fine.
Haha thanks guys, I’d better get cracking. That is interesting though Spar, I’ll look into it. Why/how does that work out of interest?
[quote]furo wrote:
Haha thanks guys, I’d better get cracking. That is interesting though Spar, I’ll look into it. Why/how does that work out of interest?[/quote]
Mainly just a matter of structural support. A stronger muscle can withstand more strain/tension, which is the cause of the pain you experience in your clavicular region. I used to have it once I tried dipping over 100lbs. At the time, I had done almost no incline work once so ever. Once I added those in and gained some thickness in my upper chest. The pain/discomfort quelled abruptly.
Used to happen to myself few years back, my guess is upper pec/delts are under developed. Also used to get sternum pain from dips thanks for the advice Csullinator
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Used to happen to myself few years back, my guess is upper pec/delts are under developed. Also used to get sternum pain from dips thanks for the advice Csullinator[/quote]
Yeah. If standing overhead press is the zero support sagittal pressing movement, then dips are its transverse counterpart. Your sole system of support is your body, so if any synergists or stabilizers in the kinetic chain are glaringly weak or underdeveloped, they’ll be vehemently exposed.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
Haha thanks guys, I’d better get cracking. That is interesting though Spar, I’ll look into it. Why/how does that work out of interest?[/quote]
Mainly just a matter of structural support. A stronger muscle can withstand more strain/tension, which is the cause of the pain you experience in your clavicular region. I used to have it once I tried dipping over 100lbs. At the time, I had done almost no incline work once so ever. Once I added those in and gained some thickness in my upper chest. The pain/discomfort quelled abruptly.[/quote]
Thank you very much. And great use of the word quelled.
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
Haha thanks guys, I’d better get cracking. That is interesting though Spar, I’ll look into it. Why/how does that work out of interest?[/quote]
Mainly just a matter of structural support. A stronger muscle can withstand more strain/tension, which is the cause of the pain you experience in your clavicular region. I used to have it once I tried dipping over 100lbs. At the time, I had done almost no incline work once so ever. Once I added those in and gained some thickness in my upper chest. The pain/discomfort quelled abruptly.[/quote]
Thank you very much. And great use of the word quelled.[/quote]
No problem.
Chris, good work for the most part so far. Regarding your squats, how do you usually feel in the hole? How about at the top?
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Need more muscle. Need more incline bench.[/quote]
Ah simple enough then.
Furo and Spidey you guys need to go ahead and build enough muscle to where you look like this ^
Then you should be fine.[/quote]
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Chris, good work for the most part so far. Regarding your squats, how do you usually feel in the hole? How about at the top?[/quote]
I feel very bad in the hole. Funny you should mention that; I said something to Chia about it just yesterday and decided that I need to get back to doing pause squats asap. The weight feels light at the top. That’s why I always laugh when people comment on walking out a squat rather than using a mono lift. I feel like I could dance a jig with my max squat weight on my shoulders. It doesn’t feel bad until I sit down with it lol.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Chris, good work for the most part so far. Regarding your squats, how do you usually feel in the hole? How about at the top?[/quote]
I feel very bad in the hole. Funny you should mention that; I said something to Chia about it just yesterday and decided that I need to get back to doing pause squats asap. The weight feels light at the top. That’s why I always laugh when people comment on walking out a squat rather than using a mono lift. I feel like I could dance a jig with my max squat weight on my shoulders. It doesn’t feel bad until I sit down with it lol.[/quote]
That’s what I figured. You look completely out of your element in the hole. I recommend paused squats and progressing really heavy on them. Mainly just to right yourself and abolish any kinks in your stance, grip, etc.
1/11/2014
Went to the Rush this afternoon for round 2.
Yates Rows:
135 10x
225 10x
275 8x
315 8x
315 8x
315 8x
275 10x
225 10x
Pullups:
5 sets of 10
Row Machine:
4 sets of 10
Pulldowns:
3 sets of 10
Did 2 sets on every curl machine in the gym to failure.
Front Double Bicep Pose Cable Curls:
4 sets of 10
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Even with BW Dips, after the set I have a horrible pain in my collar bone, even going stupid controlled. I hate all of you. [/quote]
I get that exact same deep pain with parallel bar dips if I don’t warm up well (especially if I haven’t trained them for a while). I’m not bothered by it with ring dips, I have no idea why.[/quote]
Damn that’s a shame. I wonder if there isn’t a body angle you could play with or try shrugging your shoulders up more or something that would relieve that impingement during the movement.[/quote]
More overhead and incline work will fix that srs.[/quote]
Spar4Tee, you are wise beyond your years.