[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
wtf where did that back pic come from you monster[/quote]
Thanks man!
To be honest? Really shit form deadlifts ahahaha! I have some rounded, cat back deadlift form. I’ve never done much of any direct upper back work. Not a very good method, but that’s the only explanation I’ve got lol.[/quote]
I don’t pull with an arched back. I do have awesome erectors, and mid/lower traps. However my lats unfortunately suck. Everyone also seem to have better lats than me, even Brown Disaster has better lats than me.
To be honest, all I have for my back are my rear delts, traps (all parts), and erectors.
[quote]csulli wrote:
omfg I’m not going to be able to get to sleep till like 3am cuz of all that damn preworkout.[/quote]
Csulli, why do you take Preworkout DURING TRAINING? If it helps your strength, why not reserve it for meets?
Since wouldn’t building up a tolerance (and dependence) on it while having numbers you couldn’t beat without it be negative for your goals?
It sounds a lot like someone banging their head on the barbell, snorting some ammonia, then invoking dark forces for some fucking box squats, and wondering why they get extremely beat up in a short period of time.
Of course I could be making myself look like a dick, and you have a legitimate purpose for it. I am pretty much just asking your reasoning behind it since I had considered taking some whenever I test the competition lifts/when I start going to meets.
[quote]csulli wrote:
omfg I’m not going to be able to get to sleep till like 3am cuz of all that damn preworkout.[/quote]
Csulli, why do you take Preworkout DURING TRAINING? If it helps your strength, why not reserve it for meets?
Since wouldn’t building up a tolerance (and dependence) on it while having numbers you couldn’t beat without it be negative for your goals?
It sounds a lot like someone banging their head on the barbell, snorting some ammonia, then invoking dark forces for some fucking box squats, and wondering why they get extremely beat up in a short period of time.
Of course I could be making myself look like a dick, and you have a legitimate purpose for it. I am pretty much just asking your reasoning behind it since I had considered taking some whenever I test the competition lifts/when I start going to meets. [/quote]
It’s just basically caffeine lol.
[quote]csulli wrote:
omfg I’m not going to be able to get to sleep till like 3am cuz of all that damn preworkout.[/quote]
Csulli, why do you take Preworkout DURING TRAINING? If it helps your strength, why not reserve it for meets?
Since wouldn’t building up a tolerance (and dependence) on it while having numbers you couldn’t beat without it be negative for your goals?
It sounds a lot like someone banging their head on the barbell, snorting some ammonia, then invoking dark forces for some fucking box squats, and wondering why they get extremely beat up in a short period of time.
Of course I could be making myself look like a dick, and you have a legitimate purpose for it. I am pretty much just asking your reasoning behind it since I had considered taking some whenever I test the competition lifts/when I start going to meets. [/quote]
It’s just basically caffeine lol.[/quote]
I am disappoint. NO METH FOR MY WORKOUTS!?!
From the way people talked about preworkouts I thought they would at least spring for something a tiny bit stronger than caffeine.
[quote]csulli wrote:
omfg I’m not going to be able to get to sleep till like 3am cuz of all that damn preworkout.[/quote]
Csulli, why do you take Preworkout DURING TRAINING? If it helps your strength, why not reserve it for meets?
Since wouldn’t building up a tolerance (and dependence) on it while having numbers you couldn’t beat without it be negative for your goals?
It sounds a lot like someone banging their head on the barbell, snorting some ammonia, then invoking dark forces for some fucking box squats, and wondering why they get extremely beat up in a short period of time.
Of course I could be making myself look like a dick, and you have a legitimate purpose for it. I am pretty much just asking your reasoning behind it since I had considered taking some whenever I test the competition lifts/when I start going to meets. [/quote]
It’s just basically caffeine lol.[/quote]
I am disappoint. NO METH FOR MY WORKOUTS!?!
From the way people talked about preworkouts I thought they would at least spring for something a tiny bit stronger than caffeine. [/quote]
It’s not to be taken seriously.
[quote]csulli wrote:
omfg I’m not going to be able to get to sleep till like 3am cuz of all that damn preworkout.[/quote]
Csulli, why do you take Preworkout DURING TRAINING? If it helps your strength, why not reserve it for meets?
Since wouldn’t building up a tolerance (and dependence) on it while having numbers you couldn’t beat without it be negative for your goals?
It sounds a lot like someone banging their head on the barbell, snorting some ammonia, then invoking dark forces for some fucking box squats, and wondering why they get extremely beat up in a short period of time.
Of course I could be making myself look like a dick, and you have a legitimate purpose for it. I am pretty much just asking your reasoning behind it since I had considered taking some whenever I test the competition lifts/when I start going to meets. [/quote]
I NEVER use preworkouts lol. That’s why I couldn’t get to sleep till 4am last night, because, like I said, I od’d on preworkout and I have ZERO tolerance hahaha. And tbh I don’t even feel like it does shit to help me lift. In fact I doubt I’ll ever use it again, because all it does is fuck up my recovery.
[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
wtf where did that back pic come from you monster[/quote]
Thanks man!
To be honest? Really shit form deadlifts ahahaha! I have some rounded, cat back deadlift form. I’ve never done much of any direct upper back work. Not a very good method, but that’s the only explanation I’ve got lol. [/quote]
I am going to have to start rounding my deadlifts now to get dat back
Had me a little bonus day. But I needed to find something that wouldn’t interfere with big deadlifts Friday. So I just did shoulder isolation stuff for 3 hours.
Honestly I can’t even remember what I did. There wasn’t much rhyme or reason to it. I’d do a few sets of one thing then move on to whatever else I could think of to hit either rear or medial delts. And when I ran out of ideas I’d just start repeating exercises lol.
Upright Kettlebell Press: You guys know what this is? Big Steve and I used to do these before he moved. It’s just a single arm kettlebell press, except the weight has to remain straight upright. You have to grip the handle hard enough to keep the bell in the air. Can’t let it fall against your arm. Shoulda videoed this, but my phone was playing the music in the gym.
35.2lbs 1x
40lbs 1x
50lbs 1x
55lbs 1x
60lbs 1x PR
The next heaviest KB was fucking 79.2lbs so I had to stop at 60. It was darn close to a true max though anyhow.
Hey that would make a good challenge! Vinny do you have access to any kettlebells? Someone see if they can beat 60lbs.
Damn that just reminded me I should have done 1 arm barbell snatches.
It takes me about 2 months right now to do that much shoulder volume! Also…I accuse you of photoshoping your new pic. Thats pretty ridiculous thickness and width!
Upright Kettlebell Press: You guys know what this is? Big Steve and I used to do these before he moved. It’s just a single arm kettlebell press, except the weight has to remain straight upright. You have to grip the handle hard enough to keep the bell in the air. Can’t let it fall against your arm. Shoulda videoed this, but my phone was playing the music in the gym.
35.2lbs 1x
40lbs 1x
50lbs 1x
55lbs 1x
60lbs 1x PR
The next heaviest KB was fucking 79.2lbs so I had to stop at 60. It was darn close to a true max though anyhow.
Hey that would make a good challenge! Vinny do you have access to any kettlebells? Someone see if they can beat 60lbs.
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I think it’s called “bottoms up” work lol. I was excited to finally try one of your challenges, but had a pretty poor show. I only have 10kg (22lb), 20kg (44lb) and 28kg (61.5lb). I got the 20kg one but wasn’t close to getting 28kg.
Upright Kettlebell Press: You guys know what this is? Big Steve and I used to do these before he moved. It’s just a single arm kettlebell press, except the weight has to remain straight upright. You have to grip the handle hard enough to keep the bell in the air. Can’t let it fall against your arm. Shoulda videoed this, but my phone was playing the music in the gym.
35.2lbs 1x
40lbs 1x
50lbs 1x
55lbs 1x
60lbs 1x PR
The next heaviest KB was fucking 79.2lbs so I had to stop at 60. It was darn close to a true max though anyhow.
Hey that would make a good challenge! Vinny do you have access to any kettlebells? Someone see if they can beat 60lbs.
[/quote]
I think it’s called “bottoms up” work lol. I was excited to finally try one of your challenges, but had a pretty poor show. I only have 10kg (22lb), 20kg (44lb) and 28kg (61.5lb). I got the 20kg one but wasn’t close to getting 28kg.
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44lbs is fuckin good man. 60lbs was a massive PR for me from what I can remember.
[quote]MightyMouse17 wrote:
It takes me about 2 months right now to do that much shoulder volume! Also…I accuse you of photoshoping your new pic. Thats pretty ridiculous thickness and width![/quote]
Haha thanks!
Upright Kettlebell Press: You guys know what this is? Big Steve and I used to do these before he moved. It’s just a single arm kettlebell press, except the weight has to remain straight upright. You have to grip the handle hard enough to keep the bell in the air. Can’t let it fall against your arm. Shoulda videoed this, but my phone was playing the music in the gym.
35.2lbs 1x
40lbs 1x
50lbs 1x
55lbs 1x
60lbs 1x PR
The next heaviest KB was fucking 79.2lbs so I had to stop at 60. It was darn close to a true max though anyhow.
Hey that would make a good challenge! Vinny do you have access to any kettlebells? Someone see if they can beat 60lbs.
[/quote]
I think it’s called “bottoms up” work lol. I was excited to finally try one of your challenges, but had a pretty poor show. I only have 10kg (22lb), 20kg (44lb) and 28kg (61.5lb). I got the 20kg one but wasn’t close to getting 28kg.
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44lbs is fuckin good man. 60lbs was a massive PR for me from what I can remember.[/quote]
Thanks a lot man.
By the way was this maybe the article you were referring to earlier?
This is the hardest workout of the Coan/Philippi program. I have been dreading it ever since last week’s deadlifts felt heavier than I was hoping. I haven’t gotten the results from this program that I was anticipating. I’m sure it’s operator error though. It has worked great for many.
Anyway I always put a lot of pressure on myself to hit the weight and the reps, especially since there is the deadlift meet coming up in a month and a half. I’ve been very stressed out about it. I haven’t slept or eaten as well this week, and leading up to the lift itself today I was shaking and felt sick to my stomach. I’m relieved it’s over.
Stiff Leg Deadlifts:
365 5x
365 5x both sets beltless
Hyperextensions:
+95 behind the neck 5x
+95 behind the neck 5x
BW 25x
BW 25x
Didn’t have time for upper back; had somewhere to be at 7:30. I’ll hit it tomorrow morning.
Something that has been bothering me is the fact that those beltless stiff leg deadlifts have been feeling better than my actual deadlifts. And when I say feeling better I mean that except for the first few inches of the pull I literally feel stronger stiff legging it. It must have something to do with my back setup. Like on stiff legs I’m getting my hamstrings and glutes into it a lot more. I need to figure out how to get that position with actual deads.
I know it doesn’t look like it lol, but the weight itself feels so incredibly light. It feels light off the ground, and it’s so light at the top I feel like I could just hold it all day. There’s just that spot in the middle where everything seems to stop working.
I don’t want to make excuses, but I wonder if it’s in part a flexibility issue. I cannot keep my back flat when I bend over to touch my toes; not even remotely close. This stems from my old lower back injury where I couldn’t bend at the waist for like months (and then again 3 more times in the span of 3 years). I got incredibly inflexible and never recovered it. I’ve been rolling the area with a lax ball recently though, and I may be breaking up some of that scar tissue finally.
Yeah it’s a good one, but I thought FightingIrish raised a good point in the comments - if we are designed for sprinting why are we so terrible at it, and if we’re not designed for long distance why are we so good at it?
Anyway, I think my conclusion is that it’s best to do a bit of both.
I know it doesn’t look like it lol, but the weight itself feels so incredibly light. It feels light off the ground, and it’s so light at the top I feel like I could just hold it all day. There’s just that spot in the middle where everything seems to stop working.
I don’t want to make excuses, but I wonder if it’s in part a flexibility issue. I cannot keep my back flat when I bend over to touch my toes; not even remotely close. This stems from my old lower back injury where I couldn’t bend at the waist for like months (and then again 3 more times in the span of 3 years). I got incredibly inflexible and never recovered it. I’ve been rolling the area with a lax ball recently though, and I may be breaking up some of that scar tissue finally.[/quote]
Yo SquatGoat, I think your pull form looks rather shitty. You need to fix your setup to pull something decent. Hard to say what exactly needs to be done, but setting your lower back/pelvis before you pull is the key imo. But figuring this is out is not so easy…
I am pretty much just asking your reasoning behind it since I had considered taking some whenever I test the competition lifts/when I start going to meets.
