[quote]Stronghold wrote:
TYPE2B wrote:
Please don’t mind if I make a few corrections… Louie Simmons does not think that the Bulgarian training system is that superior to what he is using. And of course, since he doesn’t believe in it, he doesn’t use it! And one more thing, these russians actually had up to 20+ variations of the olympic lifts… I have no clue how many they used as a max effort movement.
Aside from that, bravo.
You are so far off that its not even funny. Of course, if you think that Louie doesn’t draw any ideas from the Bulgarians, I’ll be sure to ask him about that next time I’m up north.
Where do you think the max effort method came from? That certainly can’t be Bulgarian can it? Of course not, because Louie believes in lots of exercises and the Bulgarians don’t, so they obviously can’t share any other commonalities…
“We train a lot like the Bulgarians…”-Louie Simmons, Westside Squat DVD 2004 (Revised)
The Russians didn’t use a maximal effort method, but rather heavy, repeated efforts and volume progressions to build work capacity. What does that sound like to you?
Not to mention that the addition of large amounts of band tension has led to dynamic squat day at WSB actually be performed at much higher %'s (when band tension is included) than the original 50-60% that Simmons wrote about. Working around or well above 90% during every training session…who does that sound like?
There have been some interesting discussions of this on this board in the past year, but I’m not going to link you because you already have more information than you can intelligently process at this point.
I guarantee you that if you keep worrying about all of this shit, in a years time, you will be no stronger. This all applies to ELITE athletes.
You don’t need concurrent or conjugate periodization yet, simple progressive overload will be more than adequate for you. I recommend buying something basic like Starting Strength as an ebook and disconnecting your internet. Then, the next time you feel like clusterfucking on your computer, you can stare at that until you remember that NONE of this fancy shit applies to a kid who can’t squat 1.5x his bodyweight yet.[/quote]
…Another thing to keep in mind… A novice trainee can gain strength from almost anything. I personally know a 130 pound dude, who raised is bench press from 135 to 185 by maxing out 3 days a week, with tons of drop sets…
An intermediate trainee is more accurately defined as someone who makes PRs either every week, or ALMOST every week… I’m currently there… I did a westside program a few months back, and I raised my zercher good morning from 185 to 225+ pounds in 3 weeks… Unfortulately, it had almost zero carryover with my deadlift…
I make tons of PRs every week… The fact that they don’t have any carryover to anything just bugs me to death… THAT IS WHY I WILL NOW USE A DIFFERENT TRAINING METHODOLOGY. IT’S CALLED TYING MYSELF UP IN THE SQUAT RACK FOR YEARS, AND THEN COMING BACK TO T-Nation AND BRAG ABOUT MY 1500 POUND SQUAT.
In all seriousness, I will actually do “greasing the groove.” Max weights 5 days a week and we’ll see what happens. Westside failed me. Hopefully, this thing doesn’t. Please wish me luck…
Thank you.