[quote]decimation wrote:
When the present pope did something similar ( some argument about which religion was the oldest etc) a comment he had no need to make , a nun was killed but a muslim fundamentalist in Italy. Was the pope responsilbe?
If some religious zealot killed a person of Jewish origin in retaliation would Larry Donald (or actually HBO for deciding to air it be responsibile ( morally that is.)
I am not at all religious but I think famous people should recognise their words can be deadly. In a way I think they should be able to piss other an effifagy of whatever (and that is not in itself wrong but knowingly inciting extremists is morally wrong. There are extremists in all religions. Religious people often make fun of atheists and agnosticss too but there few atheist extremsits. I think it may be acceptable to make fun of religous people in response( such as citing of inane religions like the flying Spaghetti monster or referring to their beliefs mythology, but pissing of their gods doesn’t help anyone. To be fair ancient scribblings having pervasive effect upon our legal and moral cultures it is actually quite offensive to many non-religious people , especially some of the more extreme views in their religious manuscripts.
But these points are reasoned argument rather than pure incitement.
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Religious people make fun of atheists? When? I am not saying it has never happened, but I sure have never seen it. It’s us religious folks who tend to be the butt of jokes and the focus of mockery.
I’d like to see the flip side, do you have any links or anything?
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Did you read the quote George H.W. Bush made about atheists?
“No, I don’t know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God.â?¦ I support the separation of church and state. I’m just not very high on atheists.”
Robert Bentley, the new Republican governor of Alabama, delivered an oddly exclusionary message on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, the Birmingham News (via Political Wire) reports:
''I was elected as a Republican candidate. But once I became governor … I became the governor of all the people. I intend to live up to that. I am color blind."
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''But if you have been adopted in God’s family like I have, and like you have if you’re a Christian and if you’re saved, and the Holy Spirit lives within you just like the Holy Spirit lives within me, then you know what that makes? It makes you and me brothers. And it makes you and me brother and sister."
Bentley added, ''Now I will have to say that, if we don’t have the same daddy, we’re not brothers and sisters. So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I’m telling you, you’re not my brother and you’re not my sister, and I want to be your brother."
Robert Bentley, the new Republican governor of Alabama, delivered an oddly exclusionary message on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, the Birmingham News (via Political Wire) reports:
''I was elected as a Republican candidate. But once I became governor … I became the governor of all the people. I intend to live up to that. I am color blind."
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''But if you have been adopted in God’s family like I have, and like you have if you’re a Christian and if you’re saved, and the Holy Spirit lives within you just like the Holy Spirit lives within me, then you know what that makes? It makes you and me brothers. And it makes you and me brother and sister."
Bentley added, ''Now I will have to say that, if we don’t have the same daddy, we’re not brothers and sisters. So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I’m telling you, you’re not my brother and you’re not my sister, and I want to be your brother."
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Yeah our governor is pretty unabashed about not liking atheists and as a general rule denounces non-Christians. Throw in his draconian immigration bill he supports unequivocally and he is a less than PC kind of guy to put it mildly. But me not being able to associate with illegal immigrants without being sent to prison is for a different discussion.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
You don’t get any more pussified to throw up those videos and whine.[/quote]
lol - once again you are spot on! I notice you have a tendency to selectively read what you like.
Are you really going to ignore the comments a former president made while in power? Or a Rabbi openly calling all atheists parasites? Or what about the comments made governor of Alabama? Why are you openly ignoring these examples?