Is Kinesiology a Bogus Major?

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Here is my bogus degree list:

Psychology- Degree of crazy bitches everywhere
History- Who cares about this shit
Sociology- Total junk
women’s studies? WTF is this shit?
General studies
Anthropology- Ooooh you saw gorillas in the mist once?
Art
music

I’m on the fence with exercise science and kinesiology
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None of those are bogus. The question is: will it be worthwhile to you after you graduate? If it doesn’t help you get to the career you want, then it probably wasn’t worth spending money to get a degree in. But that doesn’t quantify calling any of them bogus. Even general studies could be worthwhile if you need to sample everything before deciding what you want to do. Doesn’t mean you still couldn’t go on to get a grad degree in something.

To OP, I’d adjust his list to: degrees not worth studying unless you’re going to grad school or want to be an artist of some sort. And I’d add kinesiology to it, only because I don’t think it would help you get much but a PT job which could be done in a fraction of the time and money getting a certificate instead of a degree.

As far as doing it just so you can get “big and buff”, my question is, have you not read any of the articles here? All the info you need can be found on this site right now. You don’t need to go to school and spend thousands to figure out what you should do, just do a little research and put what you find out into practice. Go check out the beginners forums, too.

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[quote]Consul wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Here is my bogus degree list:

Psychology- Degree of crazy bitches everywhere

[/quote]

I would remove this one from the list. If it wasn’t for crazy psych bitches who needed tutoring in physics because it was a degree requirement for them I would never have have gotten laid in college/grad school.[/quote]

ha! I hate a liberal arts education, so many bullshit classes.

Did you tutor them and fuck right after?

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I would usually fuck them before spending my time tutoring them just in case they wanted to flake out and blow me off (and not in the good way). A lot of girls would lead guys on so they would help them with their classes but then completely blow them off once they got what they wanted. They would give BS excuses like “I just have to find the right time to leave my boyfriend” or “I just got out of a relationship and am not ready to start another one” or some such BS and when the end of the semester came around they would never speak to the guy that tutored her again. I wasn’t going to let that happen to me. Always get payment up front.[/quote]

^^smart man in life, not just physics.
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x2

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Here is my bogus degree list:

Anthropology- Ooooh you saw gorillas in the mist once?

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LOL! that is fucking funny. you major in anthropology so you can teach people who hate anthropology about it for their general ed. classes.

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Fuck, I’d do laundry for 20 bucks an hour. I’m in the social services field and make about 13/hour.

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A kinesiologist (in Canada at least) will have a bright future in 10-15 years…when all you old fuckers… get older.

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[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:

[quote]cally wrote:
I graduated with a Kin degree and while its not useless, in most cases you will have to continue education for a career. For example, chiro, physio, teaching, etc. [/quote]

This. While there are a few jobs that just having a Kinesiology degree is good for (Kinesiologist, personal trainer), most of the time people get a Kin degree then go into physio/physical therapy, chiro, teaching, or medicine. I did it because I wanted to be a teacher, needed a degree before teacher’s college, and was interested in Kinesiology. Would be stupid to take it just to get better at getting big and buff though, and 90+% of the courses were not at all focused on that.[/quote]

I did it to get into teaching as well. Where do you teach? I see were both from Ontario.

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[quote]Nards wrote:

I’m a particle physicist when no one’s observing me.[/quote]

haha brilliant

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[quote]cally wrote:

[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:

[quote]cally wrote:
I graduated with a Kin degree and while its not useless, in most cases you will have to continue education for a career. For example, chiro, physio, teaching, etc. [/quote]

This. While there are a few jobs that just having a Kinesiology degree is good for (Kinesiologist, personal trainer), most of the time people get a Kin degree then go into physio/physical therapy, chiro, teaching, or medicine. I did it because I wanted to be a teacher, needed a degree before teacher’s college, and was interested in Kinesiology. Would be stupid to take it just to get better at getting big and buff though, and 90+% of the courses were not at all focused on that.[/quote]

I did it to get into teaching as well. Where do you teach? I see were both from Ontario.[/quote]

I’m in London. I graduated Teacher’s College last year though so just supplying this year. Yourself?

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[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
In this thread I really want opinions. This is not not meant to be a loaded question. I have been lurking here on T-Nation for a long time and I feel that lots of people here think that formal education in KINESIOLOGY or EXERCISE SCIENCE is unnecessary or bullshit when it comes to getting big and buff.
(do not beat me up, I understand how important the hard sciences Bio, Chem, and Anatomy and Physiology are)[/quote]

You don’t need a degree of any kind to get “big and buff”.

I am an exercise science major, and it seems to be a pretty big misconception that exercise science is all about working out and how to train. It’s not. It is a science. You will study the human body in GREAT detail. You will learn how EVERYTHING works. How does your body produce ATP? You’ll find out. It’ll take a month, and you will know every fucking part, down to what individual molecules go where, when, and why.

Getting a degree in exercise science is just like getting a degree in any of the other sciences (biology, chemistry, etc). It’s not just about training. That is a part, but you won’t just learn that high reps generally mean more hypertrophy. You will learn the why and how behind it. On a cellular level. It’s a lot more information than what you need to lift weights and get strong.

As far as careers with an exercise science major, I don’t believe I’ve had anyone in any of my classes that were there to become a personal trainer. A lot are there to become physical therapists (median salary around 75,000), some want to be a team strength coach type deal (these people are aiming for big time college programs, and eventually maybe professional teams), others want to become a researcher/typical scientist, and then some want to move on to medical school (like me). A lot of them will go into a masters or phd program before they pursue these careers. It’s not required for the job, but it looks good, and they have a good chance to get into those programs at my school because they went there for undergrad.

The school I go to has one of the top 3 public health (school that exercise science is in) programs (undergrad and graduate) in the country, so this might not be the case everywhere.

My advice is that if you are interested in how the body works, both with training and in general, and are interested/good in the other sciences, give it a shot. I’m interested in that kind of stuff and my classes are always pretty interesting, which makes studying and such a lot easier.

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Here is my bogus degree list:

Psychology- Degree of crazy bitches everywhere

[/quote]

I would remove this one from the list. If it wasn’t for crazy psych bitches who needed tutoring in physics because it was a degree requirement for them I would never have have gotten laid in college/grad school.[/quote]

ha! I hate a liberal arts education, so many bullshit classes.

Did you tutor them and fuck right after?

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I would usually fuck them before spending my time tutoring them just in case they wanted to flake out and blow me off (and not in the good way). A lot of girls would lead guys on so they would help them with their classes but then completely blow them off once they got what they wanted. They would give BS excuses like “I just have to find the right time to leave my boyfriend” or “I just got out of a relationship and am not ready to start another one” or some such BS and when the end of the semester came around they would never speak to the guy that tutored her again. I wasn’t going to let that happen to me. Always get payment up front.[/quote]

That’s awesome haha

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[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
In this thread I really want opinions. This is not not meant to be a loaded question. I have been lurking here on T-Nation for a long time and I feel that lots of people here think that formal education in KINESIOLOGY or EXERCISE SCIENCE is unnecessary or bullshit when it comes to getting big and buff.
(do not beat me up, I understand how important the hard sciences Bio, Chem, and Anatomy and Physiology are)[/quote]

Yes.

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I’m currently 3 classes away from graduating with my B.S. In Exercise Science. Was looking at physical therapy before but I realized I din’t find it as interesting as I thought it was in the beginning. Good paying salary, but just not for me. But if anybody else is wondering Chris87 is right on with the classes. The only classes on actual training required for the degree are Body Conditioning 1 and Exercise test and prescription. What composes the rest of the curriculum? Kinesiology, motor learning, chemistry, biology 1 & 2, anatomy, physiology…yeah it’s not exactly a college course designed to get you big and strong but you will understand HOW and the Why.

I’m still stressing about what I’m going to do after I graduate, my school offers absolutely no help in landing internships for my major, but they place students that are going for Physical Education positions in a high school/middle school etc setting to help them get the hours and experience with kids. It’s my only complaint about going to that school, I just hope I don’t end up regretting my choices later on in life lol, let’s hope I can land something. Worst comes to worst, I’ll end up going back for my masters in Physical Education and going that route. A steady salary is better than no salary.

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Kin, at least in Canada, is pretty much useless on its own, but can serve as a good basis for continued education.

“Certified Kinesiologist” is a completely bogus designation. I believe the only requirements are a $120 fee per year to “earn” your CK. If your check clears and you decide to pursue work as a kinesiologist, chances are you’ll be a physio’s gopher, and not too much else.

It’s a misconception though that it will help get you into med school (in Canada). Many schools do not require the MCAT, where it might give you an advantage. There is no preferential treatment given to any degree - a plain old BA would give you an equal chance to get in. It would help you to some extent with coursework after you got accepted, but something like organic chemistry would be better suited for this.

Take it from a kin grad - think long and hard before you decide to enroll in this program!

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Here is my bogus degree list:

Psychology- Degree of crazy bitches everywhere

[/quote]

I would remove this one from the list. If it wasn’t for crazy psych bitches who needed tutoring in physics because it was a degree requirement for them I would never have have gotten laid in college/grad school.[/quote]

ha! I hate a liberal arts education, so many bullshit classes.

Did you tutor them and fuck right after?

[/quote]

I would usually fuck them before spending my time tutoring them just in case they wanted to flake out and blow me off (and not in the good way). A lot of girls would lead guys on so they would help them with their classes but then completely blow them off once they got what they wanted. They would give BS excuses like “I just have to find the right time to leave my boyfriend” or “I just got out of a relationship and am not ready to start another one” or some such BS and when the end of the semester came around they would never speak to the guy that tutored her again. I wasn’t going to let that happen to me. Always get payment up front.[/quote]

Well played!

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Here is my bogus degree list:

Psychology- Degree of crazy bitches everywhere
History- Who cares about this shit
Sociology- Total junk
women’s studies? WTF is this shit?
General studies
Anthropology- Ooooh you saw gorillas in the mist once?
Art
music

I’m on the fence with exercise science and kinesiology
[/quote]

You’re bogus!

If someone has a talent for a specific area, the passion to pursue it, and the drive to follow through to a career, who are we to knock that?

If I had read your list and took it to heart back when I graduated High School, I wouldn’t be a successful artist now.

My point to the OP is: if you have the passion and talent for something, go for it.
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Right I’m sure you had zero artistic ability before going to art school. All the “great” artists of our time went to art school?

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[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:

[quote]cally wrote:

[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:

[quote]cally wrote:
I graduated with a Kin degree and while its not useless, in most cases you will have to continue education for a career. For example, chiro, physio, teaching, etc. [/quote]

This. While there are a few jobs that just having a Kinesiology degree is good for (Kinesiologist, personal trainer), most of the time people get a Kin degree then go into physio/physical therapy, chiro, teaching, or medicine. I did it because I wanted to be a teacher, needed a degree before teacher’s college, and was interested in Kinesiology. Would be stupid to take it just to get better at getting big and buff though, and 90+% of the courses were not at all focused on that.[/quote]

I did it to get into teaching as well. Where do you teach? I see were both from Ontario.[/quote]

I’m in London. I graduated Teacher’s College last year though so just supplying this year. Yourself?[/quote]

Teach in Toronto, full time phys-ed. Dream job to say the least. Good luck on a full time position. I went to UWO for Kin, London is a great city with amazing woman.

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Here is my bogus degree list:

Psychology- Degree of crazy bitches everywhere
History- Who cares about this shit
Sociology- Total junk
women’s studies? WTF is this shit?
General studies
Anthropology- Ooooh you saw gorillas in the mist once?
Art
music

I’m on the fence with exercise science and kinesiology
[/quote]

You’re bogus!

If someone has a talent for a specific area, the passion to pursue it, and the drive to follow through to a career, who are we to knock that?

If I had read your list and took it to heart back when I graduated High School, I wouldn’t be a successful artist now.

My point to the OP is: if you have the passion and talent for something, go for it.
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Right I’m sure you had zero artistic ability before going to art school. All the “great” artists of our time went to art school?[/quote]

You just proved my point better than I did.

I could have been a successful artist without college.

Can a person be a real kinesiologist without college?

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[quote]jldume wrote:
I’m currently 3 classes away from graduating with my B.S. In Exercise Science. Was looking at physical therapy before but I realized I din’t find it as interesting as I thought it was in the beginning. Good paying salary, but just not for me. But if anybody else is wondering Chris87 is right on with the classes. The only classes on actual training required for the degree are Body Conditioning 1 and Exercise test and prescription. What composes the rest of the curriculum? Kinesiology, motor learning, chemistry, biology 1 & 2, anatomy, physiology…yeah it’s not exactly a college course designed to get you big and strong but you will understand HOW and the Why.

I’m still stressing about what I’m going to do after I graduate, my school offers absolutely no help in landing internships for my major, but they place students that are going for Physical Education positions in a high school/middle school etc setting to help them get the hours and experience with kids. It’s my only complaint about going to that school, I just hope I don’t end up regretting my choices later on in life lol, let’s hope I can land something. Worst comes to worst, I’ll end up going back for my masters in Physical Education and going that route. A steady salary is better than no salary.[/quote]

Yea its a pretty big misconception. In the intro exercise science course, there’s always a lot of retarded douchebags who think they know how to “get swole” so their degrees are going to be easy. No, it’s a science degree, it’s not a gimmie.