prepare to have your mind blown
^hahaahahahahah Question?
Why would a multi billionare be on a Train, Sharing a Car with a kid. He just was there seems odd in the real world Bill Gates or Oprah would just be in a train car instead of a private compartment or Fly.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
prepare to have your mind blown
So he agrees with me.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
prepare to have your mind blown
This link is quoted for accuracy.
I finally saw the mindless INCEPTION and got pissed off because I couldn’t sleep through the movie due to all the loud sound bites, gunfire, and half baked chatters.
This move made me question whether or not Christopher Nolan’s ever had a real dream in his life…unless all his dreams were dreamt up for him by Michael Bay and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Also, it made me wonder whether Nolan really knew what subconsciousness is. He makes almost no distinction between dream and reality/consciousness and the … See Moresubconsciousness.
Where are the surreal, the irrationality, the absurd, the bizarre, the grotesque, the indeterminate? All the elements that make up the dream world and the subconsiousness are missing. There was no imagination, no emotions, and no character developments, and no SOUL.
His characters were EMPTY SHELLS who have 0 libidos even in their “deepest” subconscious levels. The structure of this film and the way it’s handled mirrors the psychs of the characters (and of Mr Nolan’s himself) : Tight, mechanical, clumsy, clunky and dry…too thought out and too forced.
This movie reminds me of writers who use big words and obscure langauge to cover up the emptiness of the actual content. Everyone is fooled by the pretentiously complexity of the storyline. But it really is just a pseudo-intellectual shootâ??em up masqueraded as layman’s “art”.
I don’t understand how this movie “made you think” or "blew your mind’, but if it did, then you need to start asking some very fundamental questions about the world and your place in it. I thought at least the action scenes or the cinematography would be decent…but Nolan had no sense of space and rhythm. All his cuts were off-beat and all his shots were poorly framed.
Overall, the movie felt like a tangled up mess that got shoved down my throat by force, and i had no choice but to shit it out and never think about it again. Finally… IT WAS WORSE THAN THE DARK KNIGHT!
lol
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
I finally saw the mindless INCEPTION and got pissed off because I couldn’t sleep through the movie due to all the loud sound bites, gunfire, and half baked chatters.
This move made me question whether or not Christopher Nolan’s ever had a real dream in his life…unless all his dreams were dreamt up for him by Michael Bay and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Also, it made me wonder whether Nolan really knew what subconsciousness is. He makes almost no distinction between dream and reality/consciousness and the … See Moresubconsciousness.
Where are the surreal, the irrationality, the absurd, the bizarre, the grotesque, the indeterminate? All the elements that make up the dream world and the subconsiousness are missing. There was no imagination, no emotions, and no character developments, and no SOUL.
His characters were EMPTY SHELLS who have 0 libidos even in their “deepest” subconscious levels. The structure of this film and the way it’s handled mirrors the psychs of the characters (and of Mr Nolan’s himself) : Tight, mechanical, clumsy, clunky and dry…too thought out and too forced.
This movie reminds me of writers who use big words and obscure langauge to cover up the emptiness of the actual content. Everyone is fooled by the pretentiously complexity of the storyline. But it really is just a pseudo-intellectual shootâ??em up masqueraded as layman’s “art”.
I don’t understand how this movie “made you think” or "blew your mind’, but if it did, then you need to start asking some very fundamental questions about the world and your place in it. I thought at least the action scenes or the cinematography would be decent…but Nolan had no sense of space and rhythm. All his cuts were off-beat and all his shots were poorly framed.
Overall, the movie felt like a tangled up mess that got shoved down my throat by force, and i had no choice but to shit it out and never think about it again. Finally… IT WAS WORSE THAN THE DARK KNIGHT!
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I agree. If I was in this movie there would be a lot of nekkid chicks
I don’t know what you guys are talking about, that movie was FKN AMAZING!!! I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a movie that impressed me as much as that movie did! Absolute genius.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
prepare to have your mind blown
Holy shite that’s awesome
Just saw this movie.
A lot of the posters on this site apparently do not have the wit and intelligence to enjoy a movie like this.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
prepare to have your mind blown
The best part is Nolan will probably never confirm or deny any of the theories out there about the movie.
[quote]Otep wrote:
Just saw this movie.
A lot of the posters on this site apparently do not have the wit and intelligence to enjoy a movie like this. [/quote]
I’m sure you’re not surprised at that fact.
^The more I think about it (and that seems to be the legacy of this movie you think and talk about it after seeing it…alot) The begining when they wake up on the train. This just seems out of sink with reality. Why would a Billionare be sharing a train car with a kid and 2 other random guys.
This leads me to believe that the whole movie was indeed a dream.
[quote]Otep wrote:
Just saw this movie.
A lot of the posters on this site apparently do not have the wit and intelligence to enjoy a movie like this. [/quote]
It’s a fucking blockbuster no wit or intelligence is needed to see this movie and attention span some caffeine sure but people acting smart for seeing this are cracking me the fuck up.
[quote]four60 wrote:
^The more I think about it (and that seems to be the legacy of this movie you think and talk about it after seeing it…alot) The begining when they wake up on the train. This just seems out of sink with reality. Why would a Billionare be sharing a train car with a kid and 2 other random guys.
This leads me to believe that the whole movie was indeed a dream. [/quote]
This is a to small of a detail to make me believe that.
[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
Nice Common quote, but usually disappointment and not liking something go hand in hand. Here are the reasons I liked it. I kinda already stated why I liked it but let me reiterate:
It made rules for the world it created and followed those rules to a tee.
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Something I didn’t really catch but my roommate brought up was the seemingly reverse order in which the “kicks” worked. At the start, Cobb gets kicked in what we’ll call dream 1 in order to pull him out of dream 2 instead of to wake him into the real world. The kicks worked in an opposite fashion throughout the rest of the movie.
For example, Ellen Page jumps off the building in dream 4(limbo) which wakes her in dream 3(snow base) which collapses to wake her in dream 2(elevator) which plummets to wake her in dream 1(van) which plunges into the river to wake her in what is potentially the real world.
Any idea what’s up? I was thinking about it some more…despite it seeming this way, I suppose the fall into the tub at the beginning in dream 1 wasn’t meant to be a kick…but was instead meant to help cause a kick to occur in level 2 to wake Cobb into level 1.
But then again, why did the series of real life kicks that were done as tests to Arthur pull him out of his dream during the whole planning stage?
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
Nice Common quote, but usually disappointment and not liking something go hand in hand. Here are the reasons I liked it. I kinda already stated why I liked it but let me reiterate:
It made rules for the world it created and followed those rules to a tee.
[/quote]
Something I didn’t really catch but my roommate brought up was the seemingly reverse order in which the “kicks” worked. At the start, Cobb gets kicked in what we’ll call dream 1 in order to pull him out of dream 2 instead of to wake him into the real world. The kicks worked in an opposite fashion throughout the rest of the movie.
For example, Ellen Page jumps off the building in dream 4(limbo) which wakes her in dream 3(snow base) which collapses to wake her in dream 2(elevator) which plummets to wake her in dream 1(van) which plunges into the river to wake her in what is potentially the real world.
Any idea what’s up? I was thinking about it some more…despite it seeming this way, I suppose the fall into the tub at the beginning in dream 1 wasn’t meant to be a kick…but was instead meant to help cause a kick to occur in level 2 to wake Cobb into level 1.
But then again, why did the series of real life kicks that were done as tests to Arthur pull him out of his dream during the whole planning stage?[/quote]
You get kicks to pull you up 1 level (So a normal dreams needs a kick in real life.) It gets more complicated in later levels (3 or 4) because time moves progressively slower. So in order to have the kicks land simultaneously, the higher levels have to be given before the lower ones. The van kick is to get them out of hotel, the elveator out of snow, the defibrilator out of limbo. But if you did it in normal order they’d have years to wait for the final kick. (Hope that’s clear!)
As for follow their own rules as Pootie Tang stated, I disagree. First of all, the hotel kicker (JGL?) was surprised there was no gravity when the bus was falling and had to change his plan… But they KNEW the van would fall and should have planned accordingly (ie tied together in elevator).
Secondly if the falling van made gravity disappear in Hotel World, the elevator should have done the same in Ice World. But it didn’t. Just 2 small inconsistencies that bugged me.
But overall I loved it and vote that he is awake in the end due to the fact Cobbs’ Knife and Setio’s bullet wounds have disappeared.
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
Nice Common quote, but usually disappointment and not liking something go hand in hand. Here are the reasons I liked it. I kinda already stated why I liked it but let me reiterate:
It made rules for the world it created and followed those rules to a tee.
[/quote]
Something I didn’t really catch but my roommate brought up was the seemingly reverse order in which the “kicks” worked. At the start, Cobb gets kicked in what we’ll call dream 1 in order to pull him out of dream 2 instead of to wake him into the real world. The kicks worked in an opposite fashion throughout the rest of the movie.
For example, Ellen Page jumps off the building in dream 4(limbo) which wakes her in dream 3(snow base) which collapses to wake her in dream 2(elevator) which plummets to wake her in dream 1(van) which plunges into the river to wake her in what is potentially the real world.
Any idea what’s up? I was thinking about it some more…despite it seeming this way, I suppose the fall into the tub at the beginning in dream 1 wasn’t meant to be a kick…but was instead meant to help cause a kick to occur in level 2 to wake Cobb into level 1.
But then again, why did the series of real life kicks that were done as tests to Arthur pull him out of his dream during the whole planning stage?[/quote]
You get kicks to pull you up 1 level (So a normal dreams needs a kick in real life.) It gets more complicated in later levels (3 or 4) because time moves progressively slower. So in order to have the kicks land simultaneously, the higher levels have to be given before the lower ones. The van kick is to get them out of hotel, the elveator out of snow, the defibrilator out of limbo. But if you did it in normal order they’d have years to wait for the final kick. (Hope that’s clear!)
As for follow their own rules as Pootie Tang stated, I disagree. First of all, the hotel kicker (JGL?) was surprised there was no gravity when the bus was falling and had to change his plan… But they KNEW the van would fall and should have planned accordingly (ie tied together in elevator).
Secondly if the falling van made gravity disappear in Hotel World, the elevator should have done the same in Ice World. But it didn’t. Just 2 small inconsistencies that bugged me.
But overall I loved it and vote that he is awake in the end due to the fact Cobbs’ Knife and Setio’s bullet wounds have disappeared.
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The van kick was actually ahead of schedule. The van driver was under attack by a projection on the upper level of the bridge and had to drive off the bridge ahead of schedule. JGL’s character had planted explosives in the room BELOW the room everyone was in so he could initiate the kick a couple seconds after the first kick was scheduled to go off. That’s why he was suprised when he heard the cue music and realized they were ahead of schedule. So because of that he had to improvise.
The elevator dropping was the kick to get out of the Ice dream so they wouldn’t experience the weightlessness because it was their designed kick. JGL experienced the weightlessness in the Hotel dream because it was his dream and he was supposed to stay “awake” to make sure the kick for the others occurred.
SPOILER
Wholyshit. just started reading the link and only got to the part of the buildings closing in on him which happens in dreamss and saito waiting for him on the other side which happens in dreams.
I think it’s totally true the whole thing was a dream that clears a lot and is pretty crazy. If true that makes it an awesome movie i think movies that are open with things leading you in many ways with no true answer are not that great. But when it does the same but there is a true answer that can be found that is amazing.
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HOLY SHIT
Honestly the logic of the totems which I was questioning, makes no real sense expect in dream logic. This is the only explaination that explains everything in the movie and is ingeniouse.
AND yo the part where he says “in a dream you just start out and don’t know how you got there” THE ENTIRE MOVIE IS LIKE that. SAITO- where’d he come from you just kind of like ooo he’s here and go with it=dream , corporation= no details wtf is that=dream. Also the girl wtf was she where was she from, was out of place, was she an arcitech and she just pretty much suddenly accepts she can make dreams wtf.
Totally explains everything the movie is definetly a dream. Him actually telling you about in a dream you don’t know how you got there gives it away since that is how every aspect of the movie was.
About the dice being loaded, can you feel the weight of the die before throwing it, my point was if it always say falls on six in reality and random in the dream world there is still always the chance it falls randomly on six in the dream world. That was my point however it doesn’t matter since the whole thing was a dream anyway.
To the guy whining about it not being like real dreams, I saw a review like that as well some dude trying to sound smart talking about the way real dreams are and you can’t quanitfy the human mind yadda yadda, It’s a damn movie, dreams would make absolutely no sense and make a shit movie what do you want it to be crazy random pictures and flashing lights for two hours, thats what a dream would look like on screen.
I’m an optimist.
It wasn’t a dream.
Happy endings, fuck yeah.
Screw your batshit theories, the top looked wobbly when they cut the film.