Inception Movie

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Holy fucking shit guys, he’s back!!! Two years ago Christopher Nolan directed a little movie that I’m not sure any one here has heard of call THE DARK NIGHT. Now, he’s put together an all star cast including Leo Dicaprio, Ellen Page, Tom Berenger, and Michael Caine. If that isn’t a conversation in itself check this out…

On Metacritic right now, it has a average score of 100!! I can almost gurantee it will drop once other pretencious reviewers start chiming in, but it has never been at 100. My thoughts are that this one might be better than the Dark Night, and that’s a pretty bold ass statement. My only worry for the movie is that I wont be able to buy Leonardo’s part. I just can’t seem to take him for a suspenseful actor at all. The Departed was good, but Shutter Island just didn’t do it for me, and I blame Leo. Blood Diamond was a great movie, until Leo had to start with his fake accent that I couldn’t buy into.

I think the movie might be a little be miscast overall. I’m not a huge Ellen fan either. But I think Christopher Nolan is like a Mozart or Beethoven of movies so he might be able to work with them better than other directors.

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[quote]Stength4life wrote:
Holy fucking shit guys, he’s back!!! Two years ago Christopher Nolan directed a little movie that I’m not sure any one here has heard of call THE DARK NIGHT. Now, he’s put together an all star cast including Leo Dicaprio, Ellen Page, Tom Berenger, and Michael Caine. If that isn’t a conversation in itself check this out…

On Metacritic right now, it has a average score of 100!! I can almost gurantee it will drop once other pretencious reviewers start chiming in, but it has never been at 100. My thoughts are that this one might be better than the Dark Night, and that’s a pretty bold ass statement. My only worry for the movie is that I wont be able to buy Leonardo’s part. I just can’t seem to take him for a suspenseful actor at all. The Departed was good, but Shutter Island just didn’t do it for me, and I blame Leo. Blood Diamond was a great movie, until Leo had to start with his fake accent that I couldn’t buy into.

I think the movie might be a little be miscast overall. I’m not a huge Ellen fan either. But I think Christopher Nolan is like a Mozart or Beethoven of movies so he might be able to work with them better than other directors.[/quote]

Perfect movie to take a girl to. Then you can spike her popcorn. I’ll give you tips in a PM.

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I can’t wait for this movie to come out. Nolan is rising quickly on my list of favorite directors and this movie looks like it’s good for a jump up that list by at least a couple spots.

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Pshh what girls? I’ll probably end up seeing this one with a friend. Besides, wouldn’t I spike her soda? I feel like she’d taste a roofie if it was given to her as a solid object.

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[quote]Stength4life wrote:
Holy fucking shit guys, he’s back!!! Two years ago Christopher Nolan directed a little movie that I’m not sure any one here has heard of call THE DARK NIGHT. Now, he’s put together an all star cast including Leo Dicaprio, Ellen Page, Tom Berenger, and Michael Caine. If that isn’t a conversation in itself check this out…

On Metacritic right now, it has a average score of 100!! I can almost gurantee it will drop once other pretencious reviewers start chiming in, but it has never been at 100. My thoughts are that this one might be better than the Dark Night, and that’s a pretty bold ass statement. My only worry for the movie is that I wont be able to buy Leonardo’s part. I just can’t seem to take him for a suspenseful actor at all. The Departed was good, but Shutter Island just didn’t do it for me, and I blame Leo. Blood Diamond was a great movie, until Leo had to start with his fake accent that I couldn’t buy into.

I think the movie might be a little be miscast overall. I’m not a huge Ellen fan either. But I think Christopher Nolan is like a Mozart or Beethoven of movies so he might be able to work with them better than other directors.[/quote]

Miscast? That’s unlikely. I don’t see the appeal of Ellen Page either (although she comes across in her interviews as an articulate, intelligent young girl)…but one of Chris Nolan’s strongest attributes is to cast actors against type and draw unexpected performances out of them. He was responsible for making fools out of his critics by playing his “joker card” and casting Heath Ledger, and also for reinventing Robin Williams as a credible villain in Insomnia…

Thinking about it, I can’t find a single example of miscasting in a Nolan movie. I’m not arguing against you, it’s just something that occurred to me as I’m writing this. Even Ledger’s Joker served the story and the character as written.

The idea of a sociopathic terrorist having no other agenda than to conduct social experiments (which is basically what drove Ledger’s Joker: his pencil ‘trick’, the ‘prisoner’s dilemma’ with the two boats, even Batman is part of his quest to see what makes people tick. Bats becomes interesting to him because he is not like everybody else) is rib-tickling terrifying …and that’s exactly what Nolan was aiming for with the character IMO.

If you re-watch TDK, everything the Joker does is part of a series of tests. Either to test someone directly or test someone indirectly. What does this have to do with Inception? Well, it shows that it’s more about Nolan’s very astute knowledge of society and the human condition, and less about the all star cast (which is just a way to draw in the casual movie goer).

Nolan is one of the few directors who can work genuine magic with an inexperienced cast. His graduation movie Following (very similar to Memento) featured a cast of mostly non-actors, but they hold their own against a lot of so-called ‘stars’.

P.S. The trailer for Insomnia kind of reminds me of Dark City. And very good to see Tom Berenger back on the big screen, too.

I’m looking forward to this.

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[quote]Stength4life wrote:
Michael Caine. [/quote]

'Nuff said.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Stength4life wrote:
Holy fucking shit guys, he’s back!!! Two years ago Christopher Nolan directed a little movie that I’m not sure any one here has heard of call THE DARK NIGHT. Now, he’s put together an all star cast including Leo Dicaprio, Ellen Page, Tom Berenger, and Michael Caine. If that isn’t a conversation in itself check this out…

On Metacritic right now, it has a average score of 100!! I can almost gurantee it will drop once other pretencious reviewers start chiming in, but it has never been at 100. My thoughts are that this one might be better than the Dark Night, and that’s a pretty bold ass statement. My only worry for the movie is that I wont be able to buy Leonardo’s part. I just can’t seem to take him for a suspenseful actor at all. The Departed was good, but Shutter Island just didn’t do it for me, and I blame Leo. Blood Diamond was a great movie, until Leo had to start with his fake accent that I couldn’t buy into.

I think the movie might be a little be miscast overall. I’m not a huge Ellen fan either. But I think Christopher Nolan is like a Mozart or Beethoven of movies so he might be able to work with them better than other directors.[/quote]

Miscast? That’s unlikely. I don’t see the appeal of Ellen Page either (although she comes across in her interviews as an articulate, intelligent young girl)…but one of Chris Nolan’s strongest attributes is to cast actors against type and draw unexpected performances out of them. He was responsible for making fools out of his critics by playing his “joker card” and casting Heath Ledger, and also for reinventing Robin Williams as a credible villain in Insomnia…

Thinking about it, I can’t find a single example of miscasting in a Nolan movie. I’m not arguing against you, it’s just something that occurred to me as I’m writing this. Even Ledger’s Joker served the story and the character as written.

The idea of a sociopathic terrorist having no other agenda than to conduct social experiments (which is basically what drove Ledger’s Joker: his pencil ‘trick’, the ‘prisoner’s dilemma’ with the two boats, even Batman is part of his quest to see what makes people tick. Bats becomes interesting to him because he is not like everybody else) is rib-tickling terrifying …and that’s exactly what Nolan was aiming for with the character IMO.

If you re-watch TDK, everything the Joker does is part of a series of tests. Either to test someone directly or test someone indirectly. What does this have to do with Inception? Well, it shows that it’s more about Nolan’s very astute knowledge of society and the human condition, and less about the all star cast (which is just a way to draw in the casual movie goer).

Nolan is one of the few directors who can work genuine magic with an inexperienced cast. His graduation movie Following (very similar to Memento) featured a cast of mostly non-actors, but they hold their own against a lot of so-called ‘stars’.

P.S. The trailer for Insomnia kind of reminds me of Dark City. And very good to see Tom Berenger back on the big screen, too.

I’m looking forward to this.

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Do write for Rotten Tomatoes or IMDB lol? That was fire man.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

Do write for Rotten Tomatoes or IMDB lol? That was fire man.
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LOL, thanks, but no. I just try to squeeze every last drop of enjoyment out of the movies I watch. And I forgot to mention the opening bank robbery, which is probably the biggest and best social experiment in TDK: motivate a gang of criminals to kill one of their colleagues for a bigger cut of the haul (not knowing that the same offer was made to one of their fellow crims), and sit back waiting for everybody to take themselves out of the equation.

Robbing the bank for the money wasn’t the point: he did it to test human morals to destruction (anarchy) and to prove that there is no “honor amongst thieves”. Yet the Joker technically isn’t a thief because he burns the cash, so doesn’t have to stick to a criminal’s code, which through the bank robbery, he already proved doesn’t exist…Absolute fucking genius…

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I’m excited for this movie as well. I have a feeling it could be the best movie of the year so far.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

Do write for Rotten Tomatoes or IMDB lol? That was fire man.
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LOL, thanks, but no. I just try to squeeze every last drop of enjoyment out of the movies I watch. And I forgot to mention the opening bank robbery, which is probably the biggest and best social experiment in TDK: motivate a gang of criminals to kill one of their colleagues for a bigger cut of the haul (not knowing that the same offer was made to one of their fellow crims), and sit back waiting for everybody to take themselves out of the equation.

Robbing the bank for the money wasn’t the point: he did it to test human morals to destruction (anarchy) and to prove that there is no “honor amongst thieves”. Yet the Joker technically isn’t a thief because he burns the cash, so doesn’t have to stick to a criminal’s code, which through the bank robbery, he already proved doesn’t exist…Absolute fucking genius…[/quote]
That was a flawed scene though, like it would be really hard for the cops just to check each bus.

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[quote]sardines12 wrote:

That was a flawed scene though, like it would be really hard for the cops just to check each bus.[/quote]

Flawed? The bus left before the cops got there:

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Also looking forward to it, looks epic!

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Just saw momento… holy crap.

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Reading thru this thread makes me want to watch The Dark Knight again… Damn that was a great fkn movie!

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Memento > Dark Knight.

Christopher Nolan is a master of the mind.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

That was a flawed scene though, like it would be really hard for the cops just to check each bus.[/quote]

Flawed? The bus left before the cops got there:

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The buses are in a big ass line and traffic isn’t moving. Reports would come in saying hey cops stop all fucking buses one just crashed through the fucking bank. I’m not trying to be a dick it’s one of my favorite films but this stood out to me.

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[quote]sardines12 wrote:
The buses are in a big ass line and traffic isn’t moving. Reports would come in saying hey cops stop all fucking buses one just crashed through the fucking bank. I’m not trying to be a dick it’s one of my favorite films but this stood out to me.[/quote]

Criticizing the flow of traffic and choice of getaway vehicle is totally missing the point. The buses are in a separate lane to all the other traffic and they are most definitely moving (bus lanes are meant to prevent congestion, thus facilitating a quick getaway).

Also, an APB on every bus in the area is going to be a pretty tall order given that they all look the same. It’s almost as impractical as a stop and search of every taxi cab (there are real life examples that show how difficult it is to track taxis involved in crimes).

While we’re at it, why the hell didn’t Batman apprehend the Joker within the first ten minutes of the the movie? Damn, that guy is useless…

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Only issue I had with TDK was the entire sequence beginning with the “bullet fingerprints” and ending with the attempted assassination on the Mayor. Hey, the mayor is a target for The Joker, let’s have him out in the open where it’s nearly impossible to provide adequate cover! I know it’s little shit, but when everything else is nearly perfect this stood out to me.

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http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/07/09/inception-stars-leonardo-dicaprio-on-crazy-dreams-and-feeling/

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[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Only issue I had with TDK was the entire sequence beginning with the “bullet fingerprints” and ending with the attempted assassination on the Mayor. Hey, the mayor is a target for The Joker, let’s have him out in the open where it’s nearly impossible to provide adequate cover! I know it’s little shit, but when everything else is nearly perfect this stood out to me. [/quote]
It’s been awhile since i’ve seen the movie, but if I recall I thought the Mayor purposely did that march downtown to show that he wasn’t afraid of the threat of the Joker.