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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Doc L wrote:

I had a guy tell me I was 29% once. I said to him that he was fucking crazy. That is borderline obese. He insisted it was correct because he was ‘experienced’ and then told me I didn’t look it. Uh yeah, that is because I am not! It really fucked with my head, even though I knew that I was not that high.

Anyway, we are usually higher than we think we are (butt and boobs and all) and we each hold fat differently which can really alter the readings, but what really matters is how we look and feel.

You know that I hold a place in the long line that has formed to get the chance to lick you from head to toe! :wink:
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Yeah, I’m roughly 30% and I don’t feel obese, or look it, but that is a scary thought. To be a size 14 and labeled “obese” is very depressing.[/quote]

I’ve seen pics of your legs and I call bullshit on 30% :wink:

Please note that some classification charts rate up to 33% as still healthy. They don’t reach obese until over 39% Why so much variation? I don’t know. We see the same phenomena in height/weight charts. Clothing size is also a weird thing. I understand that a US size 0 is the equiv of 4 in the UK. Some designers also ‘vanity size’. According to one designer I am a 2 another a 6 sometimes an 8.

Sorry for the highjack CBear.

EDIT: I feel ya on the pullthroughs. I do them too. The looks are priceless.

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Is that 700 lb or 700 kg?

That avatar really is you.

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[quote]CBear84 wrote:

If I could get used to the looks I get when I’m doing pull throughs it would make it a lot easier. I laugh when I see people looking at me like they’re watching caterpillars fuck.

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Yes, I am familiar with that look when I’m doing pull-throughs. Very familiar. Especially with the PAUSED pullthroughs. Ahem.

I can’t comment on the accuracy/non-accuracy of that BF number from those pix, but you are gorgeous. That is a helluva front shot, my dear.

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[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Is that 700 lb [/quote]

yup.

at what point have i ever noted my weights, or anything else, in kg? do you realize that’d give me a 1540 total? I’m not on steroids and none of the lifts I have ever done come CLOSE to giving me a total above the mid 700s.

arachne, check ur friend.

one of our lovely T-Nation men sent it to me, and for a minute, I thought he drew it FOR me, until I read the part of the msg that said he found it and thought of me and couldn’t help but send it.

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damzz shawty ju hot!

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[quote]Doc L wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Doc L wrote:

I had a guy tell me I was 29% once. I said to him that he was fucking crazy. That is borderline obese. He insisted it was correct because he was ‘experienced’ and then told me I didn’t look it. Uh yeah, that is because I am not! It really fucked with my head, even though I knew that I was not that high.

Anyway, we are usually higher than we think we are (butt and boobs and all) and we each hold fat differently which can really alter the readings, but what really matters is how we look and feel.

You know that I hold a place in the long line that has formed to get the chance to lick you from head to toe! :wink:
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Yeah, I’m roughly 30% and I don’t feel obese, or look it, but that is a scary thought. To be a size 14 and labeled “obese” is very depressing.[/quote]

I’ve seen pics of your legs and I call bullshit on 30% :wink:

Please note that some classification charts rate up to 33% as still healthy. They don’t reach obese until over 39% Why so much variation? I don’t know. We see the same phenomena in height/weight charts. Clothing size is also a weird thing. I understand that a US size 0 is the equiv of 4 in the UK. Some designers also ‘vanity size’. According to one designer I am a 2 another a 6 sometimes an 8.

Sorry for the highjack CBear.

EDIT: I feel ya on the pullthroughs. I do them too. The looks are priceless.[/quote]

To continue the hijack for one more post, I just don’t see why women’s sizes can’t be like men’s sizes and go by waist/inseam.

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ahaha 700kg…I mean we know CBear is a beast but she is no Becca Swanson

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

To continue the hijack for one more post, I just don’t see why women’s sizes can’t be like men’s sizes and go by waist/inseam.
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oh fuck a hijack. who cares? not me.

abercrombie used to go by wasit/inseam, and it was convenient as hell. it made paying for that shit worth it.

now, well, fuckitall.

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C’mon. 700 kg was a joke, people. I’m not an ignoramous.

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/continue the hijack since Cbear approves :smiley:

Reading the talk here about annoying sizes reminded me about the stupid shirts I have that fit at the shoulders and chest but too big at the waist so I just tried my hand at tailoring a shirt, with the help of google, and it was pretty easy!

I think with clothing sizes being as screwy as they are and how hard it is getting to get a good fit as legs, arms, back and butt grow this might be the way to go. It’s a bit of a hassle to need to have a sewing machine but it might actually be less than the battle for clothes that fit correctly. Pants might be a bit trickier.

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clothes tend not to be made for people like me – pants are always too long, there’s not enough difference between the butt and the waist, the butt material is too low – I have a few pairs of pants that really fit and the rest are weak approximations.

I think women actually have more dimensions of variation than men so I’m not sure if measuring pants by waist and inseam would even work.

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I agree here with both Deb and Alisa,

Trying to find clothing that fits properly drives me crazy.

I have found that dress pants are not too difficult to find. I only buy Banana Republic pants (Martin fit). They are a bit long, but I wear sky high heels, so it works out :slight_smile:

Jeans on the other hand are a complete nightmare. I only have one pair that fits perfect and I fear that they will go the way of Bear’s old AE’s, they are getting a bit threadbare.

I can find a good fit in the legs, caboose and front of my waist but could fit a freakin’ baby in the gap the waistband leaves in the back. WTF is that all about? I can’t even begin to understand what part of my body needs to be bigger to accomodate all that fabric!

Suit jackets are a no go. Certain shirts as well, as Deb pointed out. A tailor is a must, but expensive. (I am dexterously challenged so doing it my self is out of the question…I would probably sew my fingers together!) Having(and maintaining)an athletic body is very expensive :frowning:

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I know a little something about clothes construction and tailoring, although knowledge alone does not a talented seamstress make. Well-fitting clothes often can’t be purchased off-the-rack - just can’t be done. What works for me is buying as close to the right size as possible, and then taking the item to my tailor. Vito. Everybody needs a Vito.

Granted, tailors are expensive. But if you buy a quality clothing item and get it tailored, you are set with a wardrobe staple for years.

The trick here is knowing what is a do-able alteration and what isn’t worth it. For example: Doc L’s situation. A jean waistband is an easy fix with two strategically placed darts and a redone waistband. However, a butt that doesn’t fit is a horrible alteration and even the best tailor can’t guarantee perfection.

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Hey Bear just doing some catching up, don’t worry about the BF%. They can vary so much depending on who’s doing to site measuring (and the impedance can vary depending on how hydrated you are from day to day).

Also great pix!!! (but I’m partial to redheads :wink: )

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Doc- between the heels and the gap in the pants, I’m wondering if u may have an anteriorly tilted pelvis… fixing that wouldnt necessarily make the gap go away, but it would redistribute the space. I’d still go with having the darts put in the back of ur pants.

Deb- yes! alterations! My mom is old school (like, knows how to make clothes because she had to at one point), so she did a lot of tailoring for me when I lived at home. Genetics gave me an ass*, swimming gave me shoulders, so i’ve been dealing with this for about 20 years.

Kimba- (addressing someone else but continuing my train of thought. im smooth) because I live in a small town, I’m lucky enough to have found the cute little old lady who goes to church with my mom that will hem pants for $2. literally. a dollar per pant leg. did a bridesmaids dress for $3… it had 3 layers on it. I always give her more and run away so she can’t give it back, but she’s the cutest thing ever.

Alisa- It’s a shame that yoga pants aren’t professional. I’ve worn em to work a time or two, but with a dress shirt, and we have to wear a smock anyway, so nobody said anything, but it’s not something I’d try on a regular basis. Sigh.

Lanchefan- thanks for stopping by!

*Thanks, mom!

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I don’t know anything about cloths…I agree and would live in yoga pants…oh wait, I do…jeans are for dressing up and I only have one pair!..I dont do heels tho haha…

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Deb, home alterations are where its at! I’m also constantly sewing up shirts and dresses, and I even tailored my soccer jersey. God forbid Mascherano wears anything even remotely loose.

But yeah, I’m with Kimba, pants go to the tailor. Except my Vito is an older Russian woman named Eva. She might have super powers with the way she fixes things up.

And you Doc - You can’t find clothing that fits b/c your bod is smokin’ hot and you have the waist of teenage nyphette. Boo-fuckin-hoo.

Cbear, said it before, say it again - curves and red hair, dangerous combination.

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<thwak!!> Hear that? That is me slapping myself in the forehead. haha! That seriously NEVER occurred to me. You get a gold star Bear!!!

Yes, I have a anterior pelvic tilt and all the fun bullcrap that goes with it. My piriformis and iliopsoas are like guitar strings. The only way I can squat worth shit is front or zercher with my heels lifted on plates.

I also have short pec minors, internally rotated humeri and some rocking anterior head carriage as well!

I really need to fix all my issues big time. There really is no excuse. I should know better. It is only a matter of time until I injure myself and I know that I will never make the proper gains until I start making this a priority.

Most importantly though, I really need to fix it so I can find the perfect pair of jeans that Masch can peel off of me :wink:

Seriously, it is so funny that I never made the connection! Much obliged my dear :slight_smile:

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[quote]Doc L wrote:

<thwak!!> Hear that? That is me slapping myself in the forehead. haha! That seriously NEVER occurred to me. You get a gold star Bear!!!

Yes, I have a anterior pelvic tilt and all the fun bullcrap that goes with it. My piriformis and iliopsoas are like guitar strings. The only way I can squat worth shit is front or zercher with my heels lifted on plates.

I also have short pec minors, internally rotated humeri and some rocking anterior head carriage as well!
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I’m quoting u and all ur anatomical references so i can laugh at a stereotype that was expressed to me a few months ago. I was at work, and it was just me and my Boss, on a slow day. The Traps thread was exploding, and i showed him what i was laughing at.

he was SO surprised that a website full of meatheads would be aware of the world enough/intelligent enough to be able to master photoshop the way they did in that thread.

now, i know how angry some of u got during that last sentence. I would have also, but I realize that i’m the first “meathead” that he’s ever known, and has known of only the stereotype.

I made sure he knew how much of a science it really can be, and how much intelligence/research it takes to do it for years at a time without breaking yourself, and that ALL of us have lives and jobs outside of the gym. (ok, most of us)

the final straw? I asked him if he knew of another “meathead” like myself who could have an intelligent conversation about the metabolism of a certain drug at particular receptor sites. I logged on and pointed to a PhD, a microbiologist, a lawyer, and a partridge in a pear tree. Dont ask me how i got the partridge to stay in the pear tree, or where i found a fucking pear tree in february in ohio.

he surrendered and the stereotype was shattered! win one for the meatheads!!