Where and why would you use that machine?
How much weight do you have to load on the machine to make the amount lifted 410lbs?
ARXfit is at gyms that have them. It’s very new technology. The reason I’d use it is because it is a resistance machine. Instead of using weights, it uses a motor. Whatever level of resistance you apply to it, it applies back at you with exactly the same level. This way the resistance can never be too much, it is possible for muscles to apply whatever level is maximum through the through the strength curve in the range of motion. Highest levels are always reached in the eccentric phase. It’s essentially a weight machine that adjusts to how tired you are. Each rep is your maximum, producing an exercise that is as intense as you can handle. If you feel a twinge, relax and nothing will fall to the ground.
The machine is also computerized, this way it can be programed to perform the movements at whatever speed desired during concentric, eccentric or static time for isometric. Your range of motion is preprogrammed down the the hundreth of an inch.
It allows for precise quantification of performance, your resistance is measured in foot/pounds of torque and plotted graphically on the screen within the time of the exercise. This way you can see your previous performance, and compete against it, pushing harder, and see how much stronger you’ve gotten. It is a much much more accurate way of measuring output than the way volume is quantified with weights.
It also allows you to isolate the muscle movements you would like to perform resistance on, you can work on only concentric, or only eccentric. That’s all I can think of why right now.
Didn’t Ivan Drago use these on Rocky IV? While Rocky was doing log presses and dragging sleds in the snow?
Actually, they look nice. Do they have cup holders? I like to sip Merlot when I do eccentric leg presses.
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Yeah it is a machine Drago would probably use.
How do you know how strong you are? You can apply whatever force you want and never fail. I know it gives you a number but it almost looks like an isometric test since the speed is controlled.
The bar does not care how much force I apply on a 500 lb Deadlift. It will always apply 500 lbs in the direction of gravity. I either overcome that or I don’t.
THAT’S MEASURABLE.
A machine that shows you how much force you apply is cool in theory but it doesn’t let you fail. Failure (or fear of failure) is great motivation. I’d prefer to put a plate on the platform that measures force while I squat and deadlift.
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Did I misunderstand you?
Why not remove the risk of a weight becoming too much to bear, and instead apply the maximum resistance through the full range of motion? This takes the guesswork out of, how much can I handle? It allows you to apply maximum resistance where you are weaker, and max resistance where you are stronger within the strength curve. A weight, which is a fixed level of force can’t do that.
I feel like we just got trolled by an ARX rep. I’ve got to admit, I admire how he played the long game rather than just posting a link in his first post and never coming back.
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He’s right. An ARX rep and he held out this long to get as much thread traffic as possible.
Well played!
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I do not work forvARX. But I tried it out at the Bulletproof Biohacking conference and I became a believer right away
Hahaha. Fuuck. I don’t usually post here that often, but did now write 20+ posts to trying to convince ARX-beginner. Time to lurk back in to the shadows.
So this is like a lion chasing a gazelle, but the lion will only chase it as fast as the gazelle wants to run? So the gazelle always gets away, and only ever has to run as fast as it wants on a given day?
My mind is blown even thinking about that situation.
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I’m actually pretty fascinated by this ARX tech tbh.
Oh my god. Its a snowflake machine! It helps you to feel like you are actually doing something without the risk of failure.
Reminds me of those old blowflex machines and various other expensive coat hangers.
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No, seriously, watch the video I posted. The guy is actually performing the concentric with maximal intent to accelerate while the machine is adjusting the resistance based on the force he is generating, hence the slow speed. It’s pretty interesting.
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I look forward to upcoming Squat, Slingshot Bench, ARX Deadlift powerlifting meets!
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Kinda. I used to work on machines that would measure back charge created by the motor then match or slightly exceed it to prevent downward drifting. So its kind of like that, except you create the back charge and the machine applies slightly more to your resistance and it gives you a nice graphic display.
Bally’s used to have a similar system that used pneumatics or something. It looks pretty cool and sciencey, but I can’t see it going over very big. Maybe some high end health clubs or something.
For someone like me with a very high pain thresh-hold (and therefore very injury prone) its a disaster. If a machine pulls/pushes harder than my ability to resist, there will be blood.
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Some of the finest slow-burn trollery I’ve seen in the last couple years!
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This. While the bells and whistles on this machine (‘graphic output displays your performance in real time!’) might be new, the underlying concept (resistance that adjusts to reflect the force applied by the user) is not.
Which is not to say these sorts of workouts can’t produce measurable improvements in aesthetics and/or strength; I’m sure they can. (So would lifting a duffel bag full of plates, for that matter.) What is not the case (IMO) is the notion that such workouts are in any way superior to more traditional approaches.
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