This is very typical psychological behavior when someone wants to reinforce their views. It’s easy search some articles, abstracts etc. that supports the claim while ignoring the unsatisfying sources. I think this can be constantly seen in any debate.
I think it’s been covered but it might be tough to find volunteers for a study about injury risks associated with skipping a warmup.
“Who wants to do max effort sprints from starting blocks without warming up to see if it causes injury?”
Uh, I think I’ll pass.
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Yeah but how else are you ever gonna figure out if you can outrun wild animals?
Quick google search gave me a debate where this same question was discussed. Topic question was about searching proper evidence about the importance/unimportance of warming up. There were plenty links tossed.
After reading some abstracts I found couple ones where conclusion was that there was not yet enough evidence about the benefits. But the majority of studies supported the warming up, and the line can be seen pretty coherent. One great post was from W.A Wallace from the uni. of Nottingham:
"There are only 2 prospective studies I am aware of:-
Hartig DE, Henderson JM. Increasing hamstring flexibility decreases lower extremity overuse in military basic trainees. Am J Sports Med1999;27:173–6.
Askling C, Karlsson J, Thorstensson A. Hamstring injury occurrence in elite soccer players after preseason strength training with eccentric overload. Scand J Med Sci Sports 2003;13:244–50.
Cohort study (prevention); Level of evidence, 3.
Team clinicians reported all hamstring muscle injuries on a weekly basis and provided details of the location, diagnosis, severity, and mechanism of each injury; loss of time from training and match play was used as the definition of an injury. Players’ match and training exposures were recorded on a weekly basis.
The incidence of hamstring muscle injuries was 0.27 per 1000 player training hours and 5.6 per 1000 player match hours. Injuries, on average, resulted in 17 days of lost time, with recurrent injuries (23%) significantly more severe (25 days lost) than new injuries (14 days lost). Second-row forwards sustained the fewest (2.4 injuries/1000 player hours) and the least severe (7 days lost) match injuries. Running activities accounted for 68% of hamstring muscle injuries, but injuries resulting from kicking were the most severe (36 days lost). Players undertaking Nordic hamstring exercises in addition to conventional stretching and strengthening exercises had lower incidences and severities of injury during training and competition."
So there is also scientific evidence that increasing warm ups prevents injuries (duh!), but there are other benefits in warming up which should be accounted in too.
Do you do Nortic hamstring exercises before running activities or kickboxing?
Does every article have to be one sided? Does the article from ACSM on cyclists warming up shred my protocol for resistance training? The only premise I’m incredulous about is the idea that warm up sets are necessary to prevent injury in resistance training.
I’m in.
but when I cite Harvard:
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Good point. Not only will you have trouble keeping participants in the ‘No Warm Up’ group, you’re going to have quite a time getting your project approved by whatever institutional review board oversees your research.
I was going to write a big, long-winded response, but then I realized you deadlift 410. Unless you’re a female or an amputee, your opinion doesn’t hold any clout. You haven’t been successful enough in lifting to really debate. Until you show that you have a pussy, I’ll just assume you are one. Have fun getting injured.
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Anything goes in 2018. I’m about it. For sure
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Who’s to say OP isn’t an AI in it’s beta testing stage sent to troll us?
Can any of you say with absolute conviction he will pass the Turing test? Seriously, look at his posts and how his/her/it’s thoughts flow. Can you? Really?
This should have ended the thread.
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What matters to me is my workouts are working.
Uh oh. Looks like “working” is also an elusive term for you.
Serious question, though: how do you test a max “eccentric leg press”? How would a failed rep look?
ARX Leg Press
OK. I just googled it and, again, it is so obvious why you think a warm up is unnecessary.
Also, here is your deadlift machine, right?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCB7hO4tcWw
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It’s one way I do the deadlift
I thought we would have had sex robots by 2018.
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