We get the trolls we deserve!
On a website community that is pretty lax to the idea and practice of injecting drugs intended for horses, calling my prefered way of starting hard and slow, “foolish” is ironic.
I’m willing to take different risks than you.
For the 10th time, I have to remind that I’m not a warm up atheist. I’ll warm up if I feel sluggish entering the gym. I want to see how much stronger I’m getting without drawing any weakening fatigue beforehand.
I’m incredulous to the idea that warming up prevents injury, and I’m not the only one.
"Many people – including some serious athletes and, apparently, even personal trainers – ditch these components, often in the interest of time or pursuit of intensity, finds Jim White, a personal trainer and dietitian with studios in Virginia. “People are just busy, and they skip the warmup and cool down,” he says.
What’s more, what minimal research exists in the area doesn’t entirely paint warming up as a do-or-die aspect of exercise, says Megan Moran, a physical therapist and running program specialist at MedStar NHR Rehabilitation Network, Ballston-Marymount. “We don’t have a lot of evidence that it’s going to decrease your risk of injury,” she says."
Good to see that your stunted ability to comprehend anything isn’t limited to this site.
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Two 5’s would get you to 415, unless you prefer asymmetrical loading of the bar.
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Also, is this another yes to a deadlift machine of sorts rather than a barbell?
Where did the article say it is do or die?
If warm up fatigues you you’re either terribly out of shape or your warm up sucks.
Anyway, tell exactly what are you doing during your workouts. I’m honestly interested.
I’m not also going to tell to you that you should warm up. I don’t care. Only thing that gets me is that you show yourself as somehow an expert with that 410lbs DL, and don’t even try to listen all the experienced guys here.
PS. that steroid comment was immature. It was also untrue, since most of the forum users even don’t use PEDs. And It was another addition to the “terrible analogies” -list.
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You guys are arguing with a similar version of zep from the PWI forum. Seriously, don’t bother. It’s not worth it.
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Is it cool if I say I’m guilty of loading 2.5s? Lol
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Nobody thinks 2.5s are cool. Until you load 495 on the bar. THEN the 2.5s are cool.
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Your warmup sucks too. But if you like doing it, fine.
It wasn’t an analogy, it was an observation of laxness to something proven to be costly. Why don’t you impart your prudence to some in the community who do use PEDs? So far, I’m the user you’ve replied to most.
I was more interested in 410, because I don’t think he’s using a barbell.
I’m mostly just baiting because I’m bored, 2.5’s are fine.
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Ahhh I see lol. I figured you were getting in some fun time, I just wanted to hop in it too lol
I highly doubt that it does. I follow the principles/guidelines from much stronger and experienced people and it’s working really well.
Why would I? If they know what they are doing its fine to me. Of course its a risk, but gives you benefits too.
Anyway, I’m still baffled that you think that you’r way of not properly warming up is superior. Since there seems to be little evidence supporting this.
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"Many people – including some serious athletes and, apparently, even personal trainers – ditch these components, often in the interest of time or pursuit of intensity, finds Jim White, a personal trainer and dietitian with studios in Virginia. “People are just busy, and they skip the warmup and cool down,” he says.
What’s more, what minimal research exists in the area doesn’t entirely paint warming up as a do-or-die aspect of exercise, says Megan Moran, a physical therapist and running program specialist at MedStar NHR Rehabilitation Network, Ballston-Marymount. “We don’t have a lot of evidence that it’s going to decrease your risk of injury,” she says."
There are studies defending both sides, I haven’t dug in to the science of lifting much, since it does not interest me (don’t get me wrong, I love science, but also know that its a tool that can be used in many ways, specially when we’re entering in to the world of health/fitness). I also trust the “empirical” evidence, which can be seen through the lifting world.
Warm up has other benefits too listed in this thread alone: mental preparing, reinforcing the form and quality volume pops in to my mind right a way.
By empirical do you mean by sense of feeling, or by observation of mishaps?
Have you experimented with minimal warm up?
My point is, I’m willing to experiment. You don’t have to change what you’re doing, but maybe be open to trying unconventional ways of doing things.
I have trained short periods when I reduced my warm ups and mobility work. My performance decreased after 2-3 weeks, specially in the squat, which was no surprise.
I referred to my personal experiences, and to what I have seen successful people doing.
PS. I’m fine if you don’t warm up, even though I can not see why. (what are the real benefits? You save 20 mins of your time?). Lets see after 5 years if you have succeeded or not.
“Serious athletes” who don’t warm up-
Name a few for me? Since you’re so fond of quoting a single article that you discovered by performing research with a preconceived notion you are unwilling to depart with.
Also, “doesn’t entirely paint warming up as a do-or-die aspect of exercise” is a pretty weak argument dude.
Wants pro-warm up “peer reviewed evidence” before accepting anything - ignores anything linking to journals.
Accepts “many people” dont warm up* published on usa news as supporting material - the article which articulates the benefits of warming up.
*warm up being undefined in the article.
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