Lol @ “how polarizing people make it” from the guy that still can’t understand the distinction between “stretching” and “warming up” after 200 posts.
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As many college athletic programs do. Post workout stretching to lengthen muscle rom and keep mobility loss from interfering with in sport performance.
Powerlifting is much different in that being quick is not as important as weight on the bar.
True, and a good point. Warming up and mobility work are highly individual thing after all. Besides of your goals, there are factors like past injuries etc.
I’m not a PL and maximal strength in not my only priority (not that it prevents me approaching that 600lbs dl). I’m wayyy past of my college years though. Hahah.
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Screw that lol
I have! I actually have vomited from a set of barbell curls! Like, seriously for realsies!
It was the one and only time I ever went to the gym hungover.
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That’s nothing. Your not a real lifter until you’ve jizzed your pants while doing curls in front of the mirror.
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that’s why I’ll never work out shirtless in a place with mirrors. Last time I did that the dumbbell rack looked like a painter’s radio
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Odd little tidbit- The first time I heard “Uglier than a painters radio”, which I think was from you, I ended up laughing intermittently for about a week.
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Yeah. This winter without much warm up I tore everything through the lumbar/thoracic region lifting logs. Didn’t realize the extent of it till the work was done and I got home. Then came the pain. Nauseating waves of pain.
0 pukes though!
I realize the issue now.
Earlier you mentioned the ‘dogma’ of doing jumping jacks, elliptical, tricep kickbacks, etc as what is expected in a warm up. This is not standard protocol for T Nation folk. You’re talking to us like we’re the average guys and girls who show up with no clue what to do at a commercial gym, and then ask one of the many unqualified trainers employed at said gym what to do. THESE sorts of trainers may suggest the above warmups. And the average gym goer following that advice may warm up like this. But the people you are talking to do not.
again, you’re making false assertions. At the gym I go to, there are zero trainers recommending static stretching. ‘so many trainers recommending stretching’ just isn’t applicable for most of us. We don’t live in that world.
Basically, you came into an educated lifting community and spoke to us as if we’re all less experienced and less knowledgeable than you are, like we’re all just following the advice of unqualified trainers at shitty gyms. We’re not cardio bunnies. We’re not a bunch of 20 year old 140 lbs twerps who think they’re smarter than the rest of the world because textbooks.
EDIT: you’ve also been completely obstinate throughout this discussion because of your stupid assumptions. You’re basically insisting that we are mindless drones following the advice of shitty trainers, for what reason I don’t know.
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I’m not trying to talk down to you. Yes you are more jacked than I am. I am truly jealous. But in the resistance training I’ve done, I’ve come to find some things overrated and underrated.IMHO
The premise I’m skeptical of is that light warm ups prevent injury. Where is the substantial evidence of this? You have your anecdotes, great. But I want to see peer reviewed evidence.
Perhaps I posted this thread on the wrong category. I chose it based on t nation’s auto recommendation.
Skipping warm up sets and going straight to your working weights is what gets people injured. There is a good reason that nobody notable trains in this manner.
Do you think you’ll find a lot of guys who will walk up to a 500 pound bar and squat it cold in the name of science?
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Rant:
Do you wanna know what the absolute worst thing about the 21st century and the rise of the information age is? The shift away from learning things from experienced individuals and trial and error over time to this absurd need for everything to have peer-reviewed evidence.
Read any comment section on literally any topic on any form of media and someone will say something along the lines of “Where’s your evidence”.
Dude, if you don’t find warming-up necessary, fantastic. Go for it. No one cares.
The fact of the matter is that the vast vast vast majority of lifter have used some form of warm-up for like 100+ years and it isn’t throw 85% of your max on the bar for rep 1.
Everything in life doesn’t need a peer review.
/rant
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If 500 is 80 percent their 1RM and they have a spotter, sure. Perhaps
Sooo all the strong guys that have already posted in this thread who said they would NOT do this hasn’t convinced you yet?
He’s ignoring all the post with linked articles anyway. He’s not looking for evidence, he’s looking to argue and that is his lazy way out of actually thinking.
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I just calculated that my estimated deadlift 80% would be around 450lbs. No fucking way I would ever lift that up without some kind of warm up. Again I’m only referring to my personal experience.
As for the peer evidence - there may not be much around this topic. Guess why? Risk/reward ratio is just plain awful.
When it comes to warming up we should rely on bros, because they’ve been doing these things for years.
Do you ever think that perhaps they are big and strong despite some things they are doing, not because some things they are doing?