I just don’t understand. You’re creating a new cancer treatment, ya, lets peer review that shit.
I don’t think we need to do a double-blind clinical trial with a control group on whether you need to warm-up to prevent injuries.
If that’s the case, why not just warm up first?
Do you mean, that not everything strong vets do is necessary for their progress?
Might be, but its better to be safe than sorry. At least in this case. We’re talking about just some ten minutes (unless you’re very strong) of your time compared to a serious risk of injury.
Besides - warming up is also mental. I’m pretty sure if I would need to test my 1RM deadlift or squat out of cold, the weights would feel much harder than they would feel after proper warm up/ramp up
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Bro, no ones cares if you warm up or you don’t warm up. I don’t understand why this is so hard for you to understand. No one is telling you to warm-up. People are advising that you do based on their experience or pointing out why they do it.
You’re the only person in this thread that would throw 85% of their 1RM on the bar as rep number 1. That should tell you something.
But, hey, there’s no SCIENCE TO BACK THAT UP and we just can’t have that!!!
Because the exercise itself warms me up performed at a slow cadence
If the exercise itself “warms (you) up”, isn’t that a warm-up?
I believe you’ve said yourself that a “warm-up” can take many forms…isn’t this just another form of a “warm-up” and you’re splitting hairs about what TYPE of “warm-up” is best?
My next baseball game, I’m gonna skip warmups and just get on the bump and pump 85mph. I heard this is what Nolan Ryan did.
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Here’s a recent peer-reviewed study:
EFFECT OF WARM-UP ON FLEXIBILITY AND FUNCTIONAL PERFORMANCE: RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIAL
By:Cunha, FG (Cunha, Franklin Gadelha)[ 1 ] ; Assad, AR (Assad, Andre Revoredo)[ 1 ] ; Pereira, TJDC (de Carvalho Campos Pereira, Talita Juliana)[ 1 ] ; Pinheiro, PID (de Souza Pinheiro, Pedro Ivo)[ 2 ] ; Barbosa, GD (Barbosa, Germanna de Medeiros)[ 2 ] ; Lins, CAA (de Almeida Lins, Caio Alano)[ 2 ] ; Abreu, BJ (Abreu, Bento Joao)[ 3 ] ; Vieira, WHD (de Brito Vieira, Wouber Herickson)[ 4 ]
REVISTA BRASILEIRA DE MEDICINA DO ESPORTE
Volume: 23 Issue: 5 Pages: 385-389
DOI: 10.1590/1517-869220172305153076
Published: SEP-OCT 2017
Abstract
Introduction: Physical activity should be a fundamental part of health promotion programs. However, its performance can expose the individual to risk of injury, which makes it necessary to adopt preventive measures such as warm-up (WU) in order to minimize risks and/or contribute to better functional performance. Objective: The purpose of this study was to analyze the acute effect of different warm-up times on flexibility, balance, and functional performance in physically active individuals. Method: Thirty two healthy men, who exercise regularly at least three times a week, were randomly assigned to one of four groups (n= 8): G0 (without WU), G5 (WU for 5 min), G10 (WU for 10 min), and G15 (WU for 15 min). The subjects were assessed before and after the intervention on the following variables: flexibility of the rectus femoris (RF) and hamstrings (HM) muscles, body balance with open and close eyes and functional performance through triple horizontal jump (THJ) and shuttle run (SR) tests. The WU was carried out on a treadmill between 70% and 80% estimated maximum heart rate for age. Results: There were no significant differences in flexibility and balance in intra and intergroup comparisons (p> 0.05). However, there was a significant improvement in functional performance only in G10 in the intragroup comparison for THJ variables (5.88 +/- 0.55 to 6.23 +/- 0.66; p= 0.0051) and SR variables (4.72 +/- 0.13 to 4.61 +/- 0.13; p= 0.0194) variables. Conclusion: Warm-up for 10 minutes seems to improve functional performance in active individuals, and may be a viable alternative for injury preventions.
I added the italics.
I’m in academia, so have access to articles and data bases that many don’t. In fact, on a quick search, I even found a research paper about warm ups for racing horses. So, even horses know that a proper warm up is good idea.
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In addition to this, success leaves clues. Yeah, if one or two strong people do something, it’s probably not worth worrying about. If EVERY strong person does something, it’s probably worth considering, even in the absence of science.
But many MANY people would rather be “right” and weak than wrong and strong.
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Yeah, like I said. I’m not a warm up atheist. I just warm up more intensely than conventional theory suggests.
Could you define what this means? Like exactly.
Psssh, where is your peer-reviewed evidence that this isn’t an outright stupid strategy?
Maybe I should wear goggles when training too. Better safe than sorry.
If you seriously started a thread to essentially say:
The way in which some people warm up is stupid. The way in which I warm up is not stupid.
Then you are not a person with whom I would want to speak.
I’m with @anon50325502 – nobody cares.
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Based on what most lifters suggest, based on theory, not controlled tests
If you would see this performed by 100% of the population that can be defined as “strong”?
These analogies, man…
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You did not catch the point.
You mean ramping up the weights? Some bw work before lifting?
Because I don’t have a fucking clue what is conventional theory of warming up. I can maybe say what are conventional practices used in warming up, but even that varies a lot. Everybody warms up though.
I chose my words more carefully. I never said it was stupid.