[quote]Professor X wrote:
Naaaah. 'Cause then we would get someone posting a thread titled, “I do NOT like to workout” and then a bunch of people who hate working out would log in to tell us they exist and all hell would break loose.[/quote]
True, Oh well I guess getting big does have it’s downsides. It is a bitch buying shirts that fit right.
I have had the luxury of being involved with weights for various reasons throughout my life. I’m in my 40s now. When I was 20 and working I was side tracked from working out because my work was demanding and long hours. My goal has always been big as naturally possible. I remeber telling myself, heck I have 20 good years to pack it on. How time flies as Prof X stated. At 38 I was able to be more consistent with my training, my goal hasn’t changed. I have been lucky with injuries, next to nothing really. The only thing that was a barrier was the fear of hurting myself by working too hard in the gym. This of course delayed my goals then one day I said “Fuck it” I’m not going to waste another 20 years of regret. I became aggressive in my training and the muscle started to pack on. I would say probably about 20 lbs of lean muscle in 3 years, not bad actually because for me I thank my parents for inheriting a natural meso body so even though my workouts in the past were inconsistent I was able to hold onto or regain lost muscle rather quickly. I am fortunate to carry on, I have bulked up to 230 lbs at 5’ 8" and training harder has me down to 218 lbs from December. I only added HIIT cardio and kept the training for mass which resulted in my fat loss, my goal is always mass as much as humanly possible for as long as I can. The battle for fat loss will be in the kitchen and cardio as required, the abs will happen by themselves.
I also get irritated at 150 lbs 6’ tall guys wanting to get ripped.
I’m not stupid I know I may have missed my window of opportunity however I am pretty big, not pro big but happy with the gains and wanting more.
[quote]The Savage wrote:
I have had the luxury of being involved with weights for various reasons throughout my life. I’m in my 40s now. When I was 20 and working I was side tracked from working out because my work was demanding and long hours. My goal has always been big as naturally possible. I remeber telling myself, heck I have 20 good years to pack it on. How time flies as Prof X stated. At 38 I was able to be more consistent with my training, my goal hasn’t changed. I have been lucky with injuries, next to nothing really. The only thing that was a barrier was the fear of hurting myself by working too hard in the gym. This of course delayed my goals then one day I said “Fuck it” I’m not going to waste another 20 years of regret. I became aggressive in my training and the muscle started to pack on. I would say probably about 20 lbs of lean muscle in 3 years, not bad actually because for me I thank my parents for inheriting a natural meso body so even though my workouts in the past were inconsistent I was able to hold onto or regain lost muscle rather quickly. I am fortunate to carry on, I have bulked up to 230 lbs at 5’ 8" and training harder has me down to 218 lbs from December. I only added HIIT cardio and kept the training for mass which resulted in my fat loss, my goal is always mass as much as humanly possible for as long as I can. The battle for fat loss will be in the kitchen and cardio as required, the abs will happen by themselves.
I also get irritated at 150 lbs 6’ tall guys wanting to get ripped.
I’m not stupid I know I may have missed my window of opportunity however I am pretty big, not pro big but happy with the gains and wanting more.[/quote]
You sound a lot like me. I’ve been lifting since I was 15 years old. I’ll be 38 next week. The muscle seemed to come easy when I was young, and I only wish I had taken more advantage of it back then. Slept enough, ate right etc. Now that I’m older I have to work my ass of for any muscle I get, although I’m still at 235 lbs and the strongest I’ve ever been. I benched 485 in a local contest last year and hope to break 500 if I can keep my shoulder pain down. But right now my goal is getting my body fat down below 10% this year.
jstreet0204
Cool, take care of the 10% BF from the diet, keep focused on the goal. Hard work will take care of the rest. Good luck on 500!
Man, listening to you experienced guys I’ve got to go get some protein in me right now. I know there’s only a few younger guys posting on the thread but I reckon you guys have lit up the old fire in a good bunch of us. Cheers to all of you.
Wait, this thread isn’t about penis enlargement?
In case you are retarded that is a joke.
Well. I really couldn’t give a fuck about being ‘big’.
I just want to be strong, fast and look good.
Freaky size is not for me. But i dig training with the guys who are after it.
I do find that it’s too much volume for me to follow though.
On you guys for the goal though. I hope you all hit. Just remember. It’s all about the food.
[quote]OMC wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Goal is to become an IFBB pro, have a world record bench press, I’m determined, I’ve had my eye on this goal ever since I’ve started training, and it WILL happen, it’s only a matter of time.
Austin in juggling these two goals do you predominantly train your bench in a powerlifter style or do you flair your elbows? For that matter do you plan on bulkin up as a power lifter and then converting to a BB? Your drive is impressive…keep it going.
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I’m not training for ‘sex appeal’ at the moment, just overall mass and strength, I don’t have visible abs, nor am I looking for them at the moment. The powerlifter turned bodybuilder is the kind of approach I’m taking, Johnnie Jackson, Ronnie Coleman style.
My strongest muscle when benching is my chest. With that being said, I don’t flare my elbows, but my style is more on the approach of using predominantely chest, wide grip, probably about a 75 degree angle between my torso and arms. I’ve packed on 50 pounds onto my bench since May, so I’m happy with my progress this far.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I’m not training for ‘sex appeal’ at the moment, just overall mass and strength, I don’t have visible abs, nor am I looking for them at the moment. The powerlifter turned bodybuilder is the kind of approach I’m taking, Johnnie Jackson, Ronnie Coleman style.
My strongest muscle when benching is my chest. With that being said, I don’t flare my elbows, but my style is more on the approach of using predominantely chest, wide grip, probably about a 75 degree angle between my torso and arms. I’ve packed on 50 pounds onto my bench since May, so I’m happy with my progress this far.
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If you are chest dominant then your lucky and great to see you know your bodybuilding history also. At seventeen and with that drive and technical outlook, you could go a long way.
Good luck
OMC
[quote]OMC wrote:
If you are chest dominant then your lucky and great to see you know your bodybuilding history also. At seventeen and with that drive and technical outlook, you could go a long way.
Good luck
OMC
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Best of luck to you too.
Austin
[quote]OMC wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I hate the word “T-man” as it has been bastardized and overused by way too many who…aren’t. I think the ones who are driven are pretty damn easy to pick out in a crowd. There is one Indian guy at my gym who is a beginner. In the past few months he has remained extremely consistent and now would be considered “big” to a lot of people.
I only bring him up because I only know this kid casually. I make an effort to speak to him because I can see his drive when he trains. His progress tells me he is doing what he needs to in the kitchen. His effort in the gym tells me how badly he wants this. There is no way “I don’t wanna be huge-Guy” is going to train like that or make that type of progress in that amount of time.
These people are not hidden. They never have been. The pussies are pretty easy to point out as well.
That it has…but I do not hold low standards for its use personally. To be called a T-man in my opinion requires a lot more than posting on a site. I hope that one day I will meet that standard that I have set…I will meet those standards. That is what the real goal for those on this site should be. IMO
OMC
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I agree. Most of the “T-men” that I know have probably not even heard of this website.
[quote]Sxio wrote:
I do find that it’s too much volume for me to follow though. [/quote]
Who said anything about a lot of volume to get big? I’ve done it on higher volume yet it would be refered to doing low volume compared to others. I have gained on HIT as well. There is not one set of protocols to get big or get strong. When you stall on progress, you need to change things up not change your phylosophy IMO it’s that simple. I will be playing with higher volume soon, based on someone who is older than I and still making gains. Open your mind, the young have the world by the balls, they need to go for it!!
I will be training a kid (21) soon. He thinks I’m huge, really I’m not HUGE! I’m big compared to others my age on average, not huge as most here would think though (body builders are still a minority). Anyway he said he wants to do what I’m doing, I told him forget that, you need to build a foundation, let’s find out what works FOR YOU.
I want to get as mother f**king big as I can. I have been lifting weights for over 10 years on and off and I know that there is a beast inside just waiting to be unleashed. Its going about it that is the problem for me. Up till last year I was making small but steady gains over a period of about 18 months but over the last number of months nothing is happening.
I would love that feeling of looking huge and I know the confidence buzz of looking like that would be immense for me. I am determined this year to get on the track to hugeness. There are so many damn articles and websites out there though that I end up confusing myself with conflicting information. It would help if any of my mates were into bodybuilding but they are not so I am on my own in this.
Im 37 this month. I have in my mind a 40 year old monster walking on the beach who has gained about 50 pounds over the previous 3 years and looking the biggest and best he can possibly be. Wheter I get to that goal is another thing but I really really want to so any help I can get is GREATLY appreciated.
Me and a buddy of mine are about to begin a chest growing contest for the rest of the semester, so now I’m gonna be specifically gunning for size. (All over, not just my chest.) Even though it’s not a real serious contest or anything, it should be good interms of helping me stay focused on diet and training. Good luck to everyone on their respective goals!
[quote]The Savage wrote:
Who said anything about a lot of volume to get big?[/quote]
Noone in this discussion. But most bodybuilding guys use a lot of volume in their training.
[quote]Sxio wrote:
The Savage wrote:
Who said anything about a lot of volume to get big?
Noone in this discussion. But most bodybuilding guys use a lot of volume in their training.
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Not necessarily.
I train primarily for size, with additional strength being a bonus. The 2 are sides of a coin. While the very biggest guys may not be the very strongest and vice versa you will get bigger AND stronger to a large degree while striving for either.
My primary goal of size does not produce in me the need to tell people that I DO NOT want to be a powerlifter or even stronger. I also see no purpose in announcing that I DO NOT want to be an MMA guy, or a gymnast or a crossfit guy or a figure skater (God forbid).
Only people who claim size is not important to them feel it necessary to declare to the world what they DO NOT want to be.
I know I lost a lot of opportunity since I didn’t lift when I was young. I started when I was 34, a year a half ago. I dropped a lot of fat and gained some muscle on the way. I have learned so much on this website that I feel I can make some good gains and get huge. Not as huge as some of you guys but as huge as my age and genes will let me.
It is great to see that there are some old guys on this thread determined to get big as well. Keep it up guys.
This isn’t me but something I think people should read and think about when they are planning out their attack on getting huge. This is more for the people my age and not necessarily the veterans who already figured this out.
"If I could count the bodybuilders in this world that are stuck in that 200-220lb area it would be astronomical. And they want to so badly to be 250 260 270lbs of monstrosity but almost every single one of them will be gaining that 2lbs this year, 2 lbs next year, and so on and 5 years from now they will now weigh 212lbs.
In my eyes if your a bodybuilder trying to put on muscle mass, you just waisted 5 growing years that youll never get back. I went back to my home town 2 years ago–we have a big hardcore gym in my hometown. I walked in that gym and people were saying “holy shit” because I had gotten so dramatically larger since my last visit 5 years earlier.
There was one guy I saw in that gym that had changed at all in that 5 years. Everyone else looked the exact same if not worse. What runs through my mind is-“what the hell have you been doing?” “Why kill yourself in here to stay the same?” Gaining muscle is incredibly hard-it takes years if not a decade to put on herculean muscle mass (if you do everything right)–It takes 3-4 months to get shredded.
Are you going to be happy in 5 years if you weigh 4lbs more than you do now? I believe the emphasis should be about proper food intake to gain bigtime muscle mass and eat your weigh up to a larger more muscular bodyweight. The secondary emphasis should be to stay lean but never compromising the muscle mass gain and you do that by carb cuttoffs and cardio.
I get incredibly frustrated when someone comes to me and they tell me what they eat in a day (3200 with 250p) and they say they dont have much of an appetite ----and they think the problem to their lack of gains for the last 4 years is something wrong with their training or “their drug stack” Simply put you cant take a 200lb guy and make him 250lbs if he is eating like a 200lb guy.
I know that sounds stupid but god so many people just cant grasp that simple principle. Does anyone in this forum have the genetics of Shawn Ray? Maybe one guy does but I doubt it. Between 1987 when he won his pro card at 197lbs and 2001 when he competed I believe at 212lbs–I cant think of a time Shawn Ray was off drugs in that period.
His appearance and competitive schedule was so intense that if he got off it wasnt for very long. Hes much much smaller now and trying to impregnate his wife so I believe he has been clean the last couple of years.
My point? From 1987 to 2001 Shawn Ray tried to stay lean and near his competing weight “as he says”—In 14 years with those genetics and that super supplement schedule that guy gained 15lbs on his competitive weight–only about a 1lb a year. Thats food for thought for people reading this who dont even have close to the genetic gifts Shawn Ray has."
If you’re a dude between the ages of 15 and 30, you cannot read the above exerpt and not feel the urge to run to the kitchen and eat a half dozen eggs and a steak. It raises a good point. With hard work, most of us are within 6 months of having single digit bodyfat. I’m not saying you should eat yourself to obesity, but it takes a whole lot more time and effort to get huge than to get lean. Who wrote these wise words?