I have tried the Hungarian Oak Leg Workout. While really painful, I have seen great results. Is there a similar workout for the shoulders, back and pecs?
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Heres a secret though, when you done with bench press, just do the bar until failure. Similar to Hungarian Oak , but not really. When you just do the bar after you do heavy it really gives you that good seperation defenition in your pectoral muscle.
[quote]triple-10sets wrote:
Heres a secret though, when you done with bench press, just do the bar until failure. Similar to Hungarian Oak , but not really. When you just do the bar after you do heavy it really gives you that good seperation defenition in your pectoral muscle. [/quote]
Wait wait. How does your body know that its JUST the bar? What if my bar is a little heavier and it weighs 50 lbs? Will this not work?
Seriously kid, I think you need to stop logging in and posting, and just stay logged out and do some reading, eating, and training. “Seperation” (separation) and “Defenition” (you mean definition, right?) come from two things: genetically determined shape of the muscle and low body fat.
OP:
Did you miss the part of the article where CT said this wont work for upper body? How about the part in the article discussion where he said the same thing?
When I say bar I always mean olympic 45 lb. I got this idea(benching the bar until failure) from my old weight training coach who is in his 50’s and is still built like a tank, so honestly I dont care if the method is frowned upon or not I know it works. And plus I dont do this every workout or anything, but I will do it from time to time.
[quote]triple-10sets wrote:
When I say bar I always mean olympic 45 lb. I got this idea(benching the bar until failure) from my old weight training coach who is in his 50’s and is still built like a tank, so honestly I dont care if the method is frowned upon or not I know it works. And plus I dont do this every workout or anything, but I will do it from time to time. [/quote]
what bar do you mean though? The 50 year old guy might be doing something else that’s working, or have good genetics but he chalks it up to this non 45 lbs. Olympic bar.
[quote]triple-10sets wrote:
When I say bar I always mean olympic 45 lb. I got this idea(benching the bar until failure) from my old weight training coach who is in his 50’s and is still built like a tank, so honestly I dont care if the method is frowned upon or not I know it works. And plus I dont do this every workout or anything, but I will do it from time to time. [/quote]
How much of this advice and knowledge have you applied and seen results with? How do you know what works, you showed up here a month ago and started posting bullshit about the Denise Austin ab workout, the perfect pushup, and how you were going to take over the powerlifting and bodybuilding worlds simultaneously with your 150 lb frame.
Is this the weight training coach at your community college or the one that you made up so you could have some source for your little theory?
Hell, I could go and do curls to failure with the 4.5 lb pink dumbells because Michael Scott on The Office said it would give me more tone. Surely he is a good of a source as your imaginary weight lifting coach.
oh god, he gone an tried to tell my how to define my pecs more. Guess I can finally quit cardio and calorie restriction.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Is this the weight training coach at your community college or the one that you made up so you could have some source for your little theory?
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Whoah whoah, AACC is a good school haha.
[quote]berkdog wrote:
I have tried the Hungarian Oak Leg Workout. While really painful, I have seen great results. Is there a similar workout for the shoulders, back and pecs? [/quote]
Check out the routine I put together and adjust it to suit your tastes. I have gained now 5lbs since the 25th of January. I might have gained more but between the 1st and 4th of Feb. I was flying between camps.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
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What is your take on the gains and cutting I have seen with the drop set/ Oak press I set up? Is it the working of our friend the muscle fairy?
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
triple-10sets wrote:
Heres a secret though, when you done with bench press, just do the bar until failure. Similar to Hungarian Oak , but not really. When you just do the bar after you do heavy it really gives you that good seperation defenition in your pectoral muscle.
Wait wait. How does your body know that its JUST the bar? What if my bar is a little heavier and it weighs 50 lbs? Will this not work?
Seriously kid, I think you need to stop logging in and posting, and just stay logged out and do some reading, eating, and training. “Seperation” (separation) and “Defenition” (you mean definition, right?) come from two things: genetically determined shape of the muscle and low body fat.
OP:
Did you miss the part of the article where CT said this wont work for upper body? How about the part in the article discussion where he said the same thing?[/quote]
Have you tried it? I have made larger gains in this three weeks than ever before. Last night I counted the reps out of curiosity and in three minutes on the shoulder press I did 20 reps with the 50lb dumbbells, 20 reps with the 40lb dumbbells, and 20 reps with the 30lb dumbbells.
If you look at my thread or profile you can see the obvious changes… workings of the muscle fairy again?
A while back Louie Simmons was experimenting with doing upper body repetition stuff for time and I don’t remember further posts about it but I’m guessing it stuck because it made it to the latest and final installment of DeFranco’s Westside for Skinny Bastards.
Point is you guys cant accept change…hahaha…HEy stick to your methods folks tried and true. But you can damn sure bet im gonna stick to mine.
and hey im gaining weight slowly but surely. you see ive got it planned. If I wanted to I could eat McDonalds every day and gain 10 lbs in a week but im not doing it like that. Each lb I gain is gonna be pure muscle, because If im not working at my job im in the gym period, thats it. I do Jump squats , power cleans , stuff like that to keep my heart rate up , so I burn alot of cal’s , so I dont gain weight to fast. I know I put in work I went from 170 to 183 just in my time on T-Nation. Slowly the truck keeps on truckin !
[quote]triple-10sets wrote:
and hey im gaining weight slowly but surely. you see ive got it planned. If I wanted to I could eat McDonalds every day and gain 10 lbs in a week but im not doing it like that. Each lb I gain is gonna be pure muscle, because If im not working at my job im in the gym period, thats it. I do Jump squats , power cleans , stuff like that to keep my heart rate up , so I burn alot of cal’s , so I dont gain weight to fast. I know I put in work I went from 170 to 183 just in my time on T-Nation. Slowly the truck keeps on truckin ! [/quote]
My great grandpa did 3 sets of eight to gain muscle… are your saying his techniques are out dated? Hahaha
Triple-10sets is right… as we learn more about the body and ways to activate growth our techniques should change.
[quote]mc_neumann wrote:
Scott M wrote:
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What is your take on the gains and cutting I have seen with the drop set/ Oak press I set up? Is it the working of our friend the muscle fairy?[/quote]
A) Where did it say anything about drop sets in the article?
B) You pictures show a beginner who found a technique that he put faith and in trained hard. Do you really think that’s so odd? If it was HIT or Max-OT or mc_neumanns clusterfuck of CT’s article I think the changes would be similar
[quote]Scott M wrote:
mc_neumann wrote:
Scott M wrote:
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What is your take on the gains and cutting I have seen with the drop set/ Oak press I set up? Is it the working of our friend the muscle fairy?
A) Where did it say anything about drop sets in the article?
B) You pictures show a beginner who found a technique that he put faith and in trained hard. Do you really think that’s so odd? If it was HIT or Max-OT or mc_neumanns clusterfuck of CT’s article I think the changes would be similar
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The time determines the number of reps… I just happened to hit that number of reps for each set.
[quote]Scott M wrote:
mc_neumann wrote:
Scott M wrote:
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What is your take on the gains and cutting I have seen with the drop set/ Oak press I set up? Is it the working of our friend the muscle fairy?
A) Where did it say anything about drop sets in the article?
B) You pictures show a beginner who found a technique that he put faith and in trained hard. Do you really think that’s so odd? If it was HIT or Max-OT or mc_neumanns clusterfuck of CT’s article I think the changes would be similar
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A) I stated that I combined drop sets with the subject matter, you did not make mention of them
B) I like my clusterfuck of CT’s article
C) Not you, but others on this thread posted smart ass comments to valid points rather than recognizing that techniques outside their small field of vision might actually work and you, unfortunately were the one I quoted when I responded in defense of these gentlemen.
[quote]mc_neumann wrote:
C) Not you, but others on this thread posted smart ass comments to valid points rather than recognizing that techniques outside their small field of vision might actually work and you, unfortunately were the one I quoted when I responded in defense of these gentlemen.
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Valids points? You mean about benching the bar for definition and separation? Are you implying you are also dumb enough to believe this shit?
Or was it the valid point about avoiding ‘tried and true’ methods? Nothing I hate more than tried and true methods.