How's It Possible to Total 2300 All Natural?

Bigger Stronger Leaner Powerlifting & Strength Sports
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Hello.

I know steroid topics are not good, but still I am very curious about it!

I checked world records in Powerlifting Watch,

In Drug Tested Raw World Records table,

Mark Henry has 2336 Lbs Raw Total With Wraps, around 900 Lbs Deadlift and 950 Lbs Squat.

In early 90’s, Sports Illustrated has written an article about Mark Henry.

When I checked it out, it turns out this,

“His body fat has been measured at 22%, which means if you took all the fat off him, he would still weigh 289 pounds. Henry bench-presses 542 pounds, squats 895, runs 40 yards in 5.2 seconds, dunks a basketball, can sink into a split and can belt out a Baptist hymn in a voice so sweet that you would swear some diminutive tenor is hiding behind him. “Singing,” Henry says. “Girls like that, too.””

Mark Henry is 6 Ft 3" around 370 Lbs and %22 Bodyfat.

So he has a lean body mass of 289 Lbs.

Correct me if I am wrong,

But legendary Arnold was also 6 Ft 2" and he competed at 240 Lbs %5 Bodyfat in his peak. So it seems Arnold has 228 Lbs Lean Body Mass.

So how its possible to Mark Henry carry 60 Lbs more lean body mass than Peak Arnold ?

Since we know Arnold has admitted his usage of steroids, how its possible to Mark Henry to compete in drug tested federations ?

Some people really believe he does not use steroids, but I dont think so.

He has same lean body mass as todays tall IFBB Pro’s. Such as 6 Ft 3" Vince Taylor, 6 Ft 1" Gunter Schlierkamp . ( They are also around 280-300 Lbs in contest condition ).

World Record Raw Total ( With Wraps ) is belong to Andrey Malanichev as of 2014. ( 2468 Lbs ) ( He is also record holder in Squat )

I am really curious about lifetime natural Powerlifting Total.

I dont think it would be higher than 1550-1600 Lbs.

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What is natural? Lifetime clean or time of tested clean? There are genetic freaks out there, but 2300 natural is not likely. Why does it matter?

BTW, Mark Henry, not always clean. But again, who cares?

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Thought this would be an interesting thread but after that last line I really hope you’re trolling

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I’m more concerned about his appetite for diminutive Baptist tenors. I assume he swallows them whole.

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What do you plan to do with this information? How will it impact your training and your lifts? Whether you decide to stay “natural” or enhance that choice is yours, and compete in the according federation.

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Don’t ever bother spending your time concerning yourself with bodyfat percentages and lean body mass. 99% of the time it’s not measured correctly and 99% of the time it’s also not reported correctly.

Never worry about this again.

That being said, I will make the statement that Mark Henry is the most impressive physical human specimen to ever exist. He never got close to reaching his potential due to leaving strength sports for the WWE. The numbers he put up are a mere fraction of what he could have accomplished.

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[quote]csulli wrote:
That being said, I will make the statement that Mark Henry is the most impressive physical human specimen to ever exist. He never got close to reaching his potential due to leaving strength sports for the WWE. The numbers he put up are a mere fraction of what he could have accomplished.[/quote]

Just read the man’s wiki page.

Wow.

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Don’t ever bother spending your time concerning yourself with bodyfat percentages and lean body mass. 99% of the time it’s not measured correctly and 99% of the time it’s also not reported correctly.[/quote]

…and the assumption is that the weight lost would be all body-fat without muscle lost, which doesn’t happen.

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This is what above poster claims is “the most impressive human specimen to ever exist”.

Lolz all day

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[quote]T-Fal wrote:
This is what above poster claims is “the most impressive human specimen to ever exist”.

Lolz all day[/quote]

Who is your pick?

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[quote]T-Fal wrote:
This is what above poster claims is “the most impressive human specimen to ever exist”.

Lolz all day[/quote]

Rofl! My thoughts exactly.

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[quote]T-Fal wrote:
This is what above poster claims is “the most impressive human specimen to ever exist”.

Lolz all day[/quote]
Absolutely. There is no one who was ever possessed of more natural strength. If you can think of someone who was, let me know and I would be happy to educate you on why you’re wrong. Or maybe you were referring to the fact that he carried a lot of fat lol. In that case, why don’t you scroll up and double check the forum that you’re in. (It’s the powerlifting forum in case that was too hard for you). The most impressive physical specimen doesn’t necessarily mean pretty. That is not at all my definition.

He could dunk a basketball at that bodyweight btw.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
This is what above poster claims is “the most impressive human specimen to ever exist”.

Lolz all day[/quote]
Absolutely. There is no one who was ever possessed of more natural strength. If you can think of someone who was, let me know and I would be happy to educate you on why you’re wrong. Or maybe you were referring to the fact that he carried a lot of fat lol. In that case, why don’t you scroll up and double check the forum that you’re in. (It’s the powerlifting forum in case that was too hard for you). The most impressive physical specimen doesn’t necessarily mean pretty. That is not at all my definition.

He could dunk a basketball at that bodyweight btw.[/quote]

I’ve actually never heard much of him before this thread, his feats are extremely impressive.

But from a powerlifting perspective is he better than ed coan, malanichev or eric lilliebridge? Going off of wilks, which strongly favors heavier lifters, Ernie lilliebridge jr. only comes out 2 points lower…

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[quote]tylerkeen42 wrote:
But from a powerlifting perspective is he better than ed coan, malanichev or eric lilliebridge? Going off of wilks, which strongly favors heavier lifters, Ernie lilliebridge jr. only comes out 2 points lower…
[/quote]
I won’t claim that he’s better from a powerlifting perspective than anyone or better from a strongman perspective or anything else like that. The fact is he went into professional wrestling and never really went after legendary records in either strength sport.

All I’m saying is that, given everything we know, I firmly believe he was the naturally strongest human being around, and that he had more potential than anyone else I’ve seen to date.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]tylerkeen42 wrote:
But from a powerlifting perspective is he better than ed coan, malanichev or eric lilliebridge? Going off of wilks, which strongly favors heavier lifters, Ernie lilliebridge jr. only comes out 2 points lower…
[/quote]
I won’t claim that he’s better from a powerlifting perspective than anyone or better from a strongman perspective or anything else like that. The fact is he went into professional wrestling and never really went after legendary records in either strength sport.

All I’m saying is that, given everything we know, I firmly believe he was the naturally strongest human being around, and that he had more potential than anyone else I’ve seen to date.[/quote]

Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for the insight :slight_smile:

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
This is what above poster claims is “the most impressive human specimen to ever exist”.

Lolz all day[/quote]
Absolutely. There is no one who was ever possessed of more natural strength. If you can think of someone who was, let me know and I would be happy to educate you on why you’re wrong. Or maybe you were referring to the fact that he carried a lot of fat lol. In that case, why don’t you scroll up and double check the forum that you’re in. (It’s the powerlifting forum in case that was too hard for you). The most impressive physical specimen doesn’t necessarily mean pretty. That is not at all my definition.

He could dunk a basketball at that bodyweight btw.[/quote]

You have to be trolling. This fat ass is massively, massively over-rated.

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[quote]DanProsser wrote:
You have to be trolling. This fat ass is massively, massively over-rated.
[/quote]
Nope. I guess Ed Coan and Kaz are massive trolls too. Don’t worry though I totally respect your opinion over theirs :wink:

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]T-Fal wrote:
This is what above poster claims is “the most impressive human specimen to ever exist”.

Lolz all day[/quote]
Absolutely. There is no one who was ever possessed of more natural strength. If you can think of someone who was, let me know and I would be happy to educate you on why you’re wrong. Or maybe you were referring to the fact that he carried a lot of fat lol. In that case, why don’t you scroll up and double check the forum that you’re in. (It’s the powerlifting forum in case that was too hard for you). The most impressive physical specimen doesn’t necessarily mean pretty. That is not at all my definition.

He could dunk a basketball at that bodyweight btw.[/quote]

Actually, he couldn’t. He participated in the old FootLocker dunk contests and despite being 6’3" with relatively long arms he couldn’t land a single one-handed dunk. He’s also more like 30% bf on the low end. Having said that, he’s definitely freakishly strong. Not gonna call him whatever you christened him, but dude’s a beast fa sho.

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Just got a refresher on his accomplishments, and as impressive as they are, there’s no way anyone can legitimately call this guy the “ultimate physical specimen” or whatever. He was 6’4" and 414 lbs with NO LESS than 30% bodyfat, and that’s being generous. So, he basically squatted & deaded a li’l more than double his bodyweight, snatched less than his bodyweight, benched and c&j’d a bit more than bodyweight… his sheer size was his standout attribute. There are quite a few guys who have put up proportionately more impressive numbers. They just weren’t 6’4" and 414 lbs.

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Wondering about whether athletes at the pointy end of any sport are taking performance enhancing drugs… Top kek