How to Help Someone New to Deadlift

Bigger Stronger Leaner Competitive Bodybuilding
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ok so i have a friend who “works out” that wants to deadlift. he doesnt squat, do rack pulls, and obviously doesnt DL.

he wants to do them TODAY, in like 2 hours.

i showed him rippetoe’s video on how to setup for the DL and gave him some basic advice.

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Should he squat and do rack pulls in a workout before he tries DL or just let him try DL first?
I was leaning towards this so he can “get his legs under him” and maybe get a feel for the lift first.

if he can’t do 135 should i let him raise up 95 lbs or whatever he can do, to a normal height?

i really dont overly care how he does because i know he will quit at some point in the near future so i dont want to waste too much time on it, but i dont want to see the kid get hurt.

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huh?

just make him go and do deadlifts.

you don’t get better at football by playing soccer. you get better by playing football.

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
huh?

just make him go and do deadlifts.

you don’t get better at football by playing soccer. you get better by playing football.[/quote]

Well put.

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
huh?

just make him go and do deadlifts.

you don’t get better at football by playing soccer. you get better by playing football.[/quote]

I agree. Just make sure he is using proper form.

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First off, find off which style he is going to use. hook grip, reverse, alternate grip. Than find out what hes better off at. Stronger legs = smaller stance, stronger upper body = larger/sumo stance. after that find out how tall he is for his in grip or wide grip. im around 5’9 and i use a midway sumo stance with wide grip/alternate grip. Or just whatever seems easier for him to do. than makes sure his legs and arms lift all at one time.

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There is a strength forum you know. Bodybuilding isn’t the ‘default’ forum for any question mildly related to a gym or lifting weights.

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ok thanks guys.

okay to raise up the bar to normal height if he has 25’s on there?

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Deadlifting is a major part of bodybuilders… good luck finding a top competitor who hasnt deadlifted or doesnt deadlift at all.

Edit: also a person who doesnt have a big back or built back

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
There is a strength forum you know. Bodybuilding isn’t the ‘default’ forum for any question mildly related to a gym or lifting weights. [/quote]

Thousands of dumbasses beg to differ.

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what do you mean by normal height? lockout position? if so straight arms maxed out

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[quote]BeastKing wrote:
what do you mean by normal height? lockout position? if so straight arms maxed out[/quote]

i mean height if the bar had 45’s.

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[quote]i work out wrote:

if he can’t do 135 should i let him raise up 95 lbs or whatever he can do, to a normal height?
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Huh? If you think he can’t deadlift 135 then how the hell does he even put plates on a bar?

Make him deadlift.

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oh, than just until the arms are straight and the bars against the body

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[quote]WP wrote:
i work out wrote:

if he can’t do 135 should i let him raise up 95 lbs or whatever he can do, to a normal height?

Huh? If you think he can’t deadlift 135 then how the hell does he even put plates on a bar?

Make him deadlift.[/quote]

christ i mean ELEVATE the bar to a normal STARTING HEIGHT (BB with 45’s) so hes not picking up a barbell with 25’s on it really low.

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[quote]BeastKing wrote:
Deadlifting is a major part of bodybuilders… good luck finding a top competitor who hasnt deadlifted or doesnt deadlift at all.

Edit: also a person who doesnt have a big back or built back[/quote]

Thanks for the info buddy.

That has fuck all to do with learning how to do a deadlift or finding ways to get deadlift numbers up. Way to miss the point completely.

If I want to learn how to deadlift as much as possible I’m not going to ask a bodybuilder, I’m going to ask someone with a 700lb raw deadlift.

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i would you can put 45s under the 25s… to make it normal height, although ive never seen a person deadlift 135 even with multiple tears…

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How old is he? I think any normal human being 18 and over can very well pull 135 or more without any training, any less than that is just pretty weird or a complete pussy. Maybe there were more than 1 25 plate a side to increase the range of motion.

Edit: don’t mention my nipples.

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[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
How old is he? I think any normal human being 18 and over can very well pull 135 or more without any training, any less than that is just pretty weird or a complete pussy. Maybe there were more than 1 25 plate a side to increase the range of motion.

Edit: don’t mention my nipples.[/quote]

hes 19? i think. well he is a pretty big pussy… he dosnt squat at all.

i asked him why and he said “my legs are already nice”

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
There is a strength forum you know. Bodybuilding isn’t the ‘default’ forum for any question mildly related to a gym or lifting weights. [/quote]

Don’t you send this dude over to my side of the site. :wink:

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[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
There is a strength forum you know. Bodybuilding isn’t the ‘default’ forum for any question mildly related to a gym or lifting weights.

Don’t you send this dude over to my side of the site. ;)[/quote]

Lol I was just typing up a reply saying that I should take back my statement because it wouldn’t be right to subject the people in there to this shit. It got a little mean so I deleted it.

OP
I think you are an asshole for wasting T-Nation’s collective time asking for help about someone who you know will quit. Go troll SAMA or something. (sorry PMPM)