[quote]i work out wrote:
WP wrote:
i work out wrote:
if he can’t do 135 should i let him raise up 95 lbs or whatever he can do, to a normal height?
Huh? If you think he can’t deadlift 135 then how the hell does he even put plates on a bar?
Make him deadlift.
christ i mean ELEVATE the bar to a normal STARTING HEIGHT (BB with 45’s) so hes not picking up a barbell with 25’s on it really low.[/quote]
As already mentioned, if can’t pull 135…well let him use the 25s as it’ll only help (the greater ROM will help develop the posterior) (the nice side says)
But really, if YOU don’t think its worth your time, then why would you think its worth ours? F him, if his legs are already THAT good, then why deadlift (a primarily lower body exercise)? If its his back he’s worried about, then tell him to do pull ups and rack pulls. sheesh
[quote]CDQAR24 wrote:
i work out wrote:
WP wrote:
i work out wrote:
if he can’t do 135 should i let him raise up 95 lbs or whatever he can do, to a normal height?
Huh? If you think he can’t deadlift 135 then how the hell does he even put plates on a bar?
Make him deadlift.
christ i mean ELEVATE the bar to a normal STARTING HEIGHT (BB with 45’s) so hes not picking up a barbell with 25’s on it really low.
As already mentioned, if can’t pull 135…well let him use the 25s as it’ll only help (the greater ROM will help develop the posterior) (the nice side says)
But really, if YOU don’t think its worth your time, then why would you think its worth ours? F him, if his legs are already THAT good, then why deadlift (a primarily lower body exercise)? If its his back he’s worried about, then tell him to do pull ups and rack pulls. sheesh
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he’s been begging me for 2 weeks to show him deadlifts and i keep blowing him off. im sorry for also wasting your time(s).
maybe i could rectify this situation by video taping him this afternoon for some good laughs?
[quote]i work out wrote:
he’s been begging me for 2 weeks to show him deadlifts and i keep blowing him off. im sorry for also wasting your time(s).[/quote]
It has been two weeks, and he hasn’t learned it on his own. He must not care enough. I learned it by myself in two days.
If he can’t DL 135, then there’s something wrong or he is really small. Most people learn to squat first. I found the DL easier to learn though.
[quote]BeastKing wrote:
Than find out what hes better off at. Stronger legs = smaller stance, stronger upper body = larger/sumo stance. after that find out how tall he is for his in grip or wide grip.[/quote]
It’s the opposite. That’s why women always do the sumo style. I prefer the conventional style for the upper back as squats already cover the legs.
Focus should be on learning the movement, he can train the muscles with simpler exercises until he can do the lift the right way.
Use a normal overhand grip, no straps, hooks or mixed grip. This will keep the weight down, when he has learned proper form he can use straps or mixed grip to lift heavier. This will also give him some grip training, not a bad thing.
Few reps and lots of sets with a light weight, nowhere near failure. I’ve found this to be better for learning a lift than to do lots of reps in the same set.
Can’t think of much more to say without seeing the guy lift. I’m assuming you know proper form, otherwise you have a whole other problem.
do a couple sets of light back extensions and some ham curls to warm up the area
start with the bar on raisers and get him used to the movement
remember to tell him to push his heels through the floor and begin to push his hips forward as soon as the bar hits knee height
watch the curvature in his back and make sure hes not rounding
a couple times through that and im sure he’ll be ready to go with a full lift. i’m a proponent of hard and heavy. so keep him in the 5rm range. try teaching him good mornings if the deadlift doesnt go over well. it’ll strengthen the synergists.
oh wait, strike the info i just put time into posting. its useless for someone who “already has nice legs”. bet his lower back is pretty solid too…haha
[quote]alit4 wrote:
just tell him to pick the damn thing up, then put it down and pick it up again. it’s not rocket science you know. were talking 135 here not 600 lbs.[/quote]
i knew i should have just taped it.
imagine your grandma picking up the newspaper in the driveway with no panties on just her gown.
you dont want to look but something inside of you wants to know whats under there.
so i watched him keep going for 7? reps. ?? i told him to do 10.
he picked it up alright, but im not even sure he watched the video he said he did. it was apparent he had absolutely no clue what he was doing.
the best part was as soon as he was done with his first set he was trying to add more weight, i stopped him before he got there but i’ll just take a wild guess that he was reaching for a plate.
[quote]alit4 wrote:
just tell him to pick the damn thing up, then put it down and pick it up again. it’s not rocket science you know. were talking 135 here not 600 lbs.[/quote]
Exactly what I was thinking. If his back is straight, he will be okay.