[quote]ape288 wrote:
You mean my bodyweight? I’m about 73 kg right now. I know what you mean though, I can’t even imagine being able to do 100 right now. Hopefully I can manage a pr soon though.
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Yeah, your bw. 73 and doing 80 is decent.
As long as you can front squat ~ 120kg for a triple that’ll give you enough to do 100 if your pull is solid and your fast under the bar.
Koing[/quote]
I can front squat at least 130 kg for a triple. My pull must be god awful haha.
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Your plenty strong to Snatch 100kg mate.
Show a video of a max attempt. It’s more telling of how you lift when you miss a limit weight.
Also the fact that you probably don’t Olift 2x a week is probably killing your lifts…CNS improvement man!
Koing[/quote]
ive recently started doing olifts 3 times a week, haven’t been for all too long though. i’ll work up to a max attempt tomorrow or sometime in the next couple days and get a video of it and post it up on a new thread.
alec[/quote]
Where are you at now man?
Koing[/quote]
not doing too bad. from the feedback i got on that last video i realized i really wasn’t keeping the bar close to my body at all during the snatch and it was making it very difficult to balance in the hole. so i started really focusing on keeping the bar in closer and i find that ive been able to catch heavier weights much, much more consistently. i managed to get 85 overhead last week, but couldnt hold it. im definitely good for it though i think. i also hit a c+j pr at 115.
i injured my wrist on monday though. i was doing cleans and i guess i just didnt get the bar high enough and didnt quite whip my left elbow around fast enough, and so the bar never racked on my shoulder and my elbow ended up jamming into my thigh while i was still holding the bar. now my wrist is swollen and killing me. flexibility is gone too. did front squats yesterday bodybuilder style. it sucks, im pissed. it was my last attempt, i was really pushing the weight. nailed it the first time, missed the second. probably shouldve stopped after that, i lost the mindset, but i was stubborn and tried it anyway. and thats what happened. i just hope it heals soon so i can start olifting and pressing again.
You will be surprised how much pectoral strength is maintained due to the jerk. The deadlift will look less daunting when you’re smashing out buckets of snatch pulls. And you will find it shocking how much latissmus growth you get from heavy cleans.
The Olympic motions are full body motions. Everything is involved. Every major skeletal muscle is utilised.
FWIW you squat and deadlift will both shoot up as you start getting better at the Oly motions, simply because you develop more fast twitch muscle and the neural adaptation to drive those motor units.
[quote]ape288 wrote:
not doing too bad. from the feedback i got on that last video i realized i really wasn’t keeping the bar close to my body at all during the snatch and it was making it very difficult to balance in the hole. so i started really focusing on keeping the bar in closer and i find that ive been able to catch heavier weights much, much more consistently. i managed to get 85 overhead last week, but couldnt hold it. im definitely good for it though i think. i also hit a c+j pr at 115.
i injured my wrist on monday though. i was doing cleans and i guess i just didnt get the bar high enough and didnt quite whip my left elbow around fast enough, and so the bar never racked on my shoulder and my elbow ended up jamming into my thigh while i was still holding the bar. now my wrist is swollen and killing me. flexibility is gone too. did front squats yesterday bodybuilder style. it sucks, im pissed. it was my last attempt, i was really pushing the weight. nailed it the first time, missed the second. probably shouldve stopped after that, i lost the mindset, but i was stubborn and tried it anyway. and thats what happened. i just hope it heals soon so i can start olifting and pressing again.[/quote]
Too bad about the wrist injury :(, always rack with high elbows, it also had the added affect of keeping the upper portion of your back MUCH stronger then if you limply held the bar with not high elbows imo.
[quote]Con@n wrote:
[quote]Koing wrote:
You WILL NEED A COACH to stack on 40lbs on to your Snatch.
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False.[/quote]
From 80 to 100 is no mean feat at all without a coach…
Koing, you mentioned being committed to mobility work - could you give some example drills, or point me in the direction of a decent source? I’ve recently built a platform in my garage, although my C&Js are improving, my snatches are pitiful, I think due to poor mobility/flexibility. Sorry to go off topic.
[quote]Koing wrote:
Too bad about the wrist injury :(, always rack with high elbows, it also had the added affect of keeping the upper portion of your back MUCH stronger then if you limply held the bar with not high elbows imo.[/quote]
that’s the thing man, I had never caught one like that before. my elbows have always been high. i think i just needed the bar to be a couple inches higher which would have given me a tiny bit more time to get my elbow around. somehow i managed to get my right elbow up though, so maybe im wrong.
[quote]Koing wrote:
From 80 to 100 is no mean feat at all without a coach…
Koing[/quote]
[quote]Koing wrote:
Too bad about the wrist injury :(, always rack with high elbows, it also had the added affect of keeping the upper portion of your back MUCH stronger then if you limply held the bar with not high elbows imo.[/quote]
that’s the thing man, I had never caught one like that before. my elbows have always been high. i think i just needed the bar to be a couple inches higher which would have given me a tiny bit more time to get my elbow around. somehow i managed to get my right elbow up though, so maybe im wrong.
[quote]Koing wrote:
From 80 to 100 is no mean feat at all without a coach…
Koing[/quote]
sarcasm?
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Yeah unexpected stuff is a bast…I once didn’t fully rack 155 and it rolled off my not quite racked position and it ‘rolled’ down my left or right leg. The quad was bruised for a while and I walked with a limp for about 5 days? Nothing major but it was the first and last time it happened, funky injury.
No sarcasm. Just stating how it is. I’ve seen a decent chunk of lifters in the past 10yrs and people online in that time frame. I’ve rarely met anyone without a coach that could Snatch 100 at any bodyweight. 80 is feasible as you can brute it up if your bastardly strong, but the extra 20kg is about the tipping point imo.
[quote]Koing wrote:
Too bad about the wrist injury :(, always rack with high elbows, it also had the added affect of keeping the upper portion of your back MUCH stronger then if you limply held the bar with not high elbows imo.[/quote]
that’s the thing man, I had never caught one like that before. my elbows have always been high. i think i just needed the bar to be a couple inches higher which would have given me a tiny bit more time to get my elbow around. somehow i managed to get my right elbow up though, so maybe im wrong.
[quote]Koing wrote:
From 80 to 100 is no mean feat at all without a coach…
Koing[/quote]
sarcasm?
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Yeah unexpected stuff is a bast…I once didn’t fully rack 155 and it rolled off my not quite racked position and it ‘rolled’ down my left or right leg. The quad was bruised for a while and I walked with a limp for about 5 days? Nothing major but it was the first and last time it happened, funky injury.
No sarcasm. Just stating how it is. I’ve seen a decent chunk of lifters in the past 10yrs and people online in that time frame. I’ve rarely met anyone without a coach that could Snatch 100 at any bodyweight. 80 is feasible as you can brute it up if your bastardly strong, but the extra 20kg is about the tipping point imo.
Koing[/quote]
Wellll I’ve hit 80 several times but I certainly wouldn’t consider myself bastardly strong lol. I won’t stop though. If there’s one thing I’m good at in regards to weightlifting it’s consistency and effort. So once this wrist heals up we’ll see how I do in the next few years. I’ll keep you up to date on my progress on this forum.
[quote]ape288 wrote:
Wellll I’ve hit 80 several times but I certainly wouldn’t consider myself bastardly strong lol. I won’t stop though. If there’s one thing I’m good at in regards to weightlifting it’s consistency and effort. So once this wrist heals up we’ll see how I do in the next few years. I’ll keep you up to date on my progress on this forum.
Alec[/quote]
You have fairly good technique so your okay. I’ve seen people that had beginner/ poor technique Snatch 80kg because they were bastardly strong, as in he was 118kg and f0cking huge, DL 300kg, BP 220, Squat 300kg. But he couldn’t Snatch 100kg :P, he got to about 95kg with coaching but he couldn’t keep training due to work and family commitments. He was the strongest guy I’ve seen in the gym. He could also do 10 strict legit chins!