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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I posted a pic of a guy who competed in NPC who weighed UNDER 200lbs at 6’2" but who LOOKED like he weighed 230lbs or so. yeah, he is an extreme case…but we can still say that most people under 200lbs at that height aren’t “SWOLE”.[/quote]

Sorry for the derail, mind posting that pic? or just letting me know the dude’s name??[/quote]

I don’t have it in this computer, but he is honestly the only guy in the NPC I’ve seen pull that off. It’s weird, he is lacking thickness from some side shots, but straight on he looks way bigger than he really is because of his muscle bellies and muscle shape. The average tall bodybuilder is screwed in that department.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
Well, they weren’t 27 at that time…u didn’t specify condition. Also, the way you phrased it was as if 27 was the minimum to be considered big, and I was giving an example of legs smaller than that which were big. And I truly believe that measurements really are ignificantly less important than pictures because those tell the whole story…bodybuilding is a physique comp, not a measurement one.[/quote]

…and you are saying this to a room filled with bodybuilders as if we don’t know that it isn’t just about a measurement.

Unless you plan to do away with all arbitrary lines in the sand that we have used for decades as signs that you are actually reaching a goal in this, I don’t understand the stance against a general measurement.

In GENERAL, you had better have arms over 15" to look like you have big arms.

This is not a false statement just because we all know that arm shape and condition have much to do with how an arm looks.

All this means is if some skinny kid is out there with 22" quads, he now has a general idea of how much more growth he will need to really look “big”.

Why make this more than that?

This is shit you usually see people smaller than those measurements do.[/quote]

Lol I think this has gotten to the point where both sides are angrily agreeing and reemphasizing their side for effect.

I don’t think anyone here is going to disagree that more often than not, measurements can be a good indicator of bigness.

At the same time, I don’t think anyone is going to disagree that height/leanness/limb length/development/etc can play heavily into where a particular leg (regardless of measurement) lands on a scale of 1-impressive.

Can we be friends and share strategies for making hyooge wheelz now?

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[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

Lol I think this has gotten to the point where both sides are angrily agreeing and reemphasizing their side for effect.

I don’t think anyone here is going to disagree that more often than not, measurements can be a good indicator of bigness.

At the same time, I don’t think anyone is going to disagree that height/leanness/limb length/development/etc can play heavily into where a particular leg (regardless of measurement) lands on a scale of 1-impressive.

Can we be friends and share strategies for making hyooge wheelz now?[/quote]

Dude, this would have been over if not for the HILARIOUS act of guys like Zraw jumping in and calling me out for answering a question someone asked me.

The haterade makes for tons of laughs.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I posted a pic of a guy who competed in NPC who weighed UNDER 200lbs at 6’2" but who LOOKED like he weighed 230lbs or so. yeah, he is an extreme case…but we can still say that most people under 200lbs at that height aren’t “SWOLE”.[/quote]

Sorry for the derail, mind posting that pic? or just letting me know the dude’s name??[/quote]

I don’t have it in this computer, but he is honestly the only guy in the NPC I’ve seen pull that off. It’s weird, he is lacking thickness from some side shots, but straight on he looks way bigger than he really is because of his muscle bellies and muscle shape. The average tall bodybuilder is screwed in that department. [/quote]

Dammit. haha, I’m 6’2", and know at 200 lbs right now, I look like I barely lift (obvious not anywhere in the area of contest shape, know that makes a huge difference, but still). And I never see tall bodybuilders not being 250+, so was curious to see it. I’ll use my Google-Fu to try and find it, though.

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I didn’t know that 27 inches was the measurement used by all bodybuilders for decades regarding leg measurements?

Is 27 inches a good measurements for big quads? Yes. Although I don’t necessarily equate 27 inch legs with 15 inch arms, IMO, 27 inch legs are much more impressive than 15 inch arms.

Like people have also said, height, bodyweight, and limb length have a lot to do with it (as they do with every bodypart), but we already knew that.

Ultimately, measurements are a tool, and one that becomes less and less important as someone becomes more of a ‘veteran’ as a bodybuilder IMO.

And what is this ‘shit’ that I’m doing? I haven’t said that measurements are useless, not at all. And I do agree with you that for beginners, they can be a great indicator of overall body mass progress, but for bodybuilders, in my opinion, measurements are less important than appearance, which it seems that you agree with too…?

Becoming too obsessed with measurements can also lead to someone putting on too much unnecessary fat IMO.

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[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I didn’t know that 27 inches was the measurement used by all bodybuilders for decades regarding leg measurements?

Is 27 inches a good measurements for big quads? Yes. Although I don’t necessarily equate 27 inch legs with 15 inch arms, IMO, 27 inch legs are much more impressive than 15 inch arms.

Like people have also said, height, bodyweight, and limb length have a lot to do with it (as they do with every bodypart), but we already knew that.

Ultimately, measurements are a tool, and one that becomes less and less important as someone becomes more of a ‘veteran’ as a bodybuilder IMO.

And what is this ‘shit’ that I’m doing? I haven’t said that measurements are useless, not at all. And I do agree with you that for beginners, they can be a great indicator of overall body mass progress, but for bodybuilders, in my opinion, measurements are less important than appearance, which it seems that you agree with too…?

Becoming too obsessed with measurements can also lead to someone putting on too much unnecessary fat IMO.

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Don’t bother. He just loves to read his own posts.

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[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I didn’t know that 27 inches was the measurement used by all bodybuilders for decades regarding leg measurements?

Is 27 inches a good measurements for big quads? Yes. Although I don’t necessarily equate 27 inch legs with 15 inch arms, IMO, 27 inch legs are much more impressive than 15 inch arms.

Like people have also said, height, bodyweight, and limb length have a lot to do with it (as they do with every bodypart), but we already knew that.

Ultimately, measurements are a tool, and one that becomes less and less important as someone becomes more of a ‘veteran’ as a bodybuilder IMO.

And what is this ‘shit’ that I’m doing? I haven’t said that measurements are useless, not at all. And I do agree with you that for beginners, they can be a great indicator of overall body mass progress, but for bodybuilders, in my opinion, measurements are less important than appearance, which it seems that you agree with too…?

Becoming too obsessed with measurements can also lead to someone putting on too much unnecessary fat IMO.

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Don’t bother. He just loves to read his own posts.

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Apparently you do as well considering your posts in this thread aren’t even in response to a topic but are just to call me out for various issues.

Very FEW people on this board are at a stage where they are already carrying so much mass that they can now ignore the scale completely and just work on refining their physique.

At the stage I am at now, yeah, worrying about the scale too much could cause me to ignore how I am really coming together. The average beginner to even intermediate is NOT.

Most measurements you hear assume AVERAGE HEIGHT. This business of finding really short or tall people just so you can say, “ah hah!! That one measurement isn’t exact for all people” is missing the point.

You are trying to tell people, some of whom have lifted longer than some of you, info about numbers as if we don’t know it already.

It is a general number used to help people reach a goal from beginner status.

Acting like numbers now need to be thrown out and all beginners should ignore the scale is fucking retarded.

Yes, 27" quads generally mean your legs now qualify as “really developed” to a lot of people.

Who honestly gives a shit if you find some guy with “26.5” inch quads that look huge as if that means anything.

Not one person here is talking about becoming OBSESSED with body weight alone. Not one person here assumes that HEIGHT does not factor into how someone looks. You aren’t speaking to clueless beginners here. You are speaking to someone who has lifted long enough to know what he is talking about.

Trying to pick apart every statement made just to be contrary to it is getting old.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I didn’t know that 27 inches was the measurement used by all bodybuilders for decades regarding leg measurements?

Is 27 inches a good measurements for big quads? Yes. Although I don’t necessarily equate 27 inch legs with 15 inch arms, IMO, 27 inch legs are much more impressive than 15 inch arms.

Like people have also said, height, bodyweight, and limb length have a lot to do with it (as they do with every bodypart), but we already knew that.

Ultimately, measurements are a tool, and one that becomes less and less important as someone becomes more of a ‘veteran’ as a bodybuilder IMO.

And what is this ‘shit’ that I’m doing? I haven’t said that measurements are useless, not at all. And I do agree with you that for beginners, they can be a great indicator of overall body mass progress, but for bodybuilders, in my opinion, measurements are less important than appearance, which it seems that you agree with too…?

Becoming too obsessed with measurements can also lead to someone putting on too much unnecessary fat IMO.

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Don’t bother. He just loves to read his own posts.

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Apparently you do as well considering your posts in this thread aren’t even in response to a topic but are just to call me out for various issues.

Very FEW people on this board are at a stage where they are already carrying so much mass that they can now ignore the scale completely and just work on refining their physique.

At the stage I am at now, yeah, worrying about the scale too much could cause me to ignore how I am really coming together. The average beginner to even intermediate is NOT.

Most measurements you hear assume AVERAGE HEIGHT. This business of finding really short or tall people just so you can say, “ah hah!! That one measurement isn’t exact for all people” is missing the point.

You are trying to tell people, some of whom have lifted longer than some of you, info about numbers as if we don’t know it already.

It is a general number used to help people reach a goal from beginner status.

Acting like numbers now need to be thrown out and all beginners should ignore the scale is fucking retarded.

Yes, 27" quads generally mean your legs now qualify as “really developed” to a lot of people.

Who honestly gives a shit if you find some guy with “26.5” inch quads that look huge as if that means anything.

Not one person here is talking about becoming OBSESSED with body weight alone. Not one person here assumes that HEIGHT does not factor into how someone looks. You aren’t speaking to clueless beginners here. You are speaking to someone who has lifted long enough to know what he is talking about.

Trying to pick apart every statement made just to be contrary to it is getting old.[/quote]

You really do love to read your own posts lol
If that last sentence was directed at me, I will say I was not trying to pick apart your statements about the topic of this thread. Just the manner in which you discuss bodybuilding with others on this site. It’s pathetic.

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[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:

You really do love to read your own posts lol
If that last sentence was directed at me, I will say I was not trying to pick apart your statements about the topic of this thread. Just the manner in which you discuss bodybuilding with others on this site. It’s pathetic.[/quote]

Uh huh.

This was your first post in this thread:

[quote][quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:

You automtaically assumed ebomb meant that you could have quads less than 27" and have them look big. That’s clearly not what he was getting at. And LOL at your “this is about your own validation.” God, you are such a tool it amazes me.[/quote]
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Hmmm, ebomb clearly DID mean his quads were less than 27" in that photo which means you were wrong about what was being discussed from the start.

You logged in just to call me out…for what reason?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:

You really do love to read your own posts lol
If that last sentence was directed at me, I will say I was not trying to pick apart your statements about the topic of this thread. Just the manner in which you discuss bodybuilding with others on this site. It’s pathetic.[/quote]

Uh huh.

This was your first post in this thread:

[quote][quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:

You automtaically assumed ebomb meant that you could have quads less than 27" and have them look big. That’s clearly not what he was getting at. And LOL at your “this is about your own validation.” God, you are such a tool it amazes me.[/quote]
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Hmmm, ebomb clearly DID mean his quads were less than 27" in that photo which means you were wrong about what was being discussed from the start.

You logged in just to call me out…for what reason?[/quote]

If you recall he mentioned at first he didn’t even know what they measured. The point was that measurements are one facet, but there are other factors that are very relevant.

You then started making ad hominems about 15 inch arms.
But honestly i’m not going to continue posting in this thread; my point was already made so there’s no use for me to continue. It just irked me when you again started throwing your virtual weight around and disrespecting him.

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No, it irked you that I responded to a question someone asked me. That’s ridiculous.

I haven’t written anything “disrespectful” to ebomb. Ebomb’s post was:

This statement is what I responded to…because he does have a big leg measurement so what is he “speaking from experience” about if he doesn’t really measure them but once got a reading of slightly below 27" when dried out in contest shape from a contest he is now BIGGER than since he competed?

This statement makes no sense at all unless he is implying smaller legs than the measurement quoted.

Face it, you all attacked…and you didn’t really even understand what was being discussed.

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[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
Since we’re doing pics, guess I’ll throw one up.

Idk what they measured here. [/quote]

Holy shit E!

Phenomenal!! : )

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I posted a pic of a guy who competed in NPC who weighed UNDER 200lbs at 6’2" but who LOOKED like he weighed 230lbs or so. yeah, he is an extreme case…but we can still say that most people under 200lbs at that height aren’t “SWOLE”.[/quote]

Sorry for the derail, mind posting that pic? or just letting me know the dude’s name??[/quote]

I don’t have it in this computer, but he is honestly the only guy in the NPC I’ve seen pull that off. It’s weird, he is lacking thickness from some side shots, but straight on he looks way bigger than he really is because of his muscle bellies and muscle shape. The average tall bodybuilder is screwed in that department. [/quote]

Dammit. haha, I’m 6’2", and know at 200 lbs right now, I look like I barely lift (obvious not anywhere in the area of contest shape, know that makes a huge difference, but still). And I never see tall bodybuilders not being 250+, so was curious to see it. I’ll use my Google-Fu to try and find it, though.[/quote]

dude dont feel bad this was taken a couple years ago, i was just over or around 200 here at 6 foot and i dont look like i lift either. I didnt get called big by anybody really until i was over 220

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[quote]Blackaggar wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I posted a pic of a guy who competed in NPC who weighed UNDER 200lbs at 6’2" but who LOOKED like he weighed 230lbs or so. yeah, he is an extreme case…but we can still say that most people under 200lbs at that height aren’t “SWOLE”.[/quote]

Sorry for the derail, mind posting that pic? or just letting me know the dude’s name??[/quote]

I don’t have it in this computer, but he is honestly the only guy in the NPC I’ve seen pull that off. It’s weird, he is lacking thickness from some side shots, but straight on he looks way bigger than he really is because of his muscle bellies and muscle shape. The average tall bodybuilder is screwed in that department. [/quote]

Dammit. haha, I’m 6’2", and know at 200 lbs right now, I look like I barely lift (obvious not anywhere in the area of contest shape, know that makes a huge difference, but still). And I never see tall bodybuilders not being 250+, so was curious to see it. I’ll use my Google-Fu to try and find it, though.[/quote]

dude dont feel bad this was taken a couple years ago, i was just over or around 200 here at 6 foot and i dont look like i lift either. I didnt get called big by anybody really until i was over 220[/quote]

Haha man, that actually makes me feel a LOT better. Looking at you now, that looks like a totally different guy. I guess it just takes us taller guys a bit longer to look ‘big’.

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

Haha man, that actually makes me feel a LOT better. Looking at you now, that looks like a totally different guy. I guess it just takes us taller guys a bit longer to look ‘big’.[/quote]

I found that link.

T-Nation has closed off most of those older threads so you can’t even bump hem anymore.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/must_win_no_other_option?id=2908856&pageNo=3

This is Kam Gallman. He’s 6’2". He looks like he weighs how much?

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I posted a pic of a guy who competed in NPC who weighed UNDER 200lbs at 6’2" but who LOOKED like he weighed 230lbs or so. yeah, he is an extreme case…but we can still say that most people under 200lbs at that height aren’t “SWOLE”.[/quote]

Sorry for the derail, mind posting that pic? or just letting me know the dude’s name??[/quote]

I don’t have it in this computer, but he is honestly the only guy in the NPC I’ve seen pull that off. It’s weird, he is lacking thickness from some side shots, but straight on he looks way bigger than he really is because of his muscle bellies and muscle shape. The average tall bodybuilder is screwed in that department. [/quote]

Dammit. haha, I’m 6’2", and know at 200 lbs right now, I look like I barely lift (obvious not anywhere in the area of contest shape, know that makes a huge difference, but still). And I never see tall bodybuilders not being 250+, so was curious to see it. I’ll use my Google-Fu to try and find it, though.[/quote]

dude dont feel bad this was taken a couple years ago, i was just over or around 200 here at 6 foot and i dont look like i lift either. I didnt get called big by anybody really until i was over 220[/quote]

Haha man, that actually makes me feel a LOT better. Looking at you now, that looks like a totally different guy. I guess it just takes us taller guys a bit longer to look ‘big’.[/quote]

Once you actually dedicate yourself to a healthy lifting and eating lifestyle consistently for a few years you will look the part. Lift all the weights you want and ignore diet entirely and you will never resemble someone who lifts weights. Here’s me after 4 years of training for size for football with absolutely no control of diet or drug use (marijuana and alcohol). I took a break from lifting until November 2009 and adopted the lifestyle and it only took two years to look the part. I’m 6’2"

[photo]35755[/photo]

[photo]35756[/photo]

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I actually did some pretty decent weights at the time as well. 450lb squat. 300lb bench. 220lb powerclean

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I knew this thing wasn’t 11 days old and eight pages long over the leg press.

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[quote]ElevenMag wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I posted a pic of a guy who competed in NPC who weighed UNDER 200lbs at 6’2" but who LOOKED like he weighed 230lbs or so. yeah, he is an extreme case…but we can still say that most people under 200lbs at that height aren’t “SWOLE”.[/quote]

Sorry for the derail, mind posting that pic? or just letting me know the dude’s name??[/quote]

I don’t have it in this computer, but he is honestly the only guy in the NPC I’ve seen pull that off. It’s weird, he is lacking thickness from some side shots, but straight on he looks way bigger than he really is because of his muscle bellies and muscle shape. The average tall bodybuilder is screwed in that department. [/quote]

Dammit. haha, I’m 6’2", and know at 200 lbs right now, I look like I barely lift (obvious not anywhere in the area of contest shape, know that makes a huge difference, but still). And I never see tall bodybuilders not being 250+, so was curious to see it. I’ll use my Google-Fu to try and find it, though.[/quote]

dude dont feel bad this was taken a couple years ago, i was just over or around 200 here at 6 foot and i dont look like i lift either. I didnt get called big by anybody really until i was over 220[/quote]

Haha man, that actually makes me feel a LOT better. Looking at you now, that looks like a totally different guy. I guess it just takes us taller guys a bit longer to look ‘big’.[/quote]

Once you actually dedicate yourself to a healthy lifting and eating lifestyle consistently for a few years you will look the part. Lift all the weights you want and ignore diet entirely and you will never resemble someone who lifts weights. Here’s me after 4 years of training for size for football with absolutely no control of diet or drug use (marijuana and alcohol). I took a break from lifting until November 2009 and adopted the lifestyle and it only took two years to look the part. I’m 6’2"

[photo]35755[/photo]

[photo]35756[/photo][/quote]

i drink all the time, eat doughnuts and burgers and pizza all the time and im ok :stuck_out_tongue: