kind of off topic. if you reach a certain strength level then your strength level goes down from taking time off like doing basic will it take you less time to reach the original strength then it would have origonally
[quote]hachi wrote:
kind of off topic. if you reach a certain strength level then your strength level goes down from taking time off like doing basic will it take you less time to reach the original strength then it would have origonally[/quote]
yes
wow, the military. that is what i thought. i always wanted to join. my ex girlfriend said they wont accept me. bitch. i think she was a compulsive liar too
They take pretty muche very one these days, I have been thinking of re apping im 25 now and by the time im fit enough ill be 26.
You can be about 10-15kgs over weight and still join you just have to drop the weight before you start employment training this is for the air force though, im not going to go back to the army
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
hachi wrote:
kind of off topic. if you reach a certain strength level then your strength level goes down from taking time off like doing basic will it take you less time to reach the original strength then it would have origonally
yes[/quote]
x2
They have weight limits? lmao. So what if you’re built like a brick shit house? I’m rejoining this year, been going through the motions but I’ve got a stress fracture in my foot. Fucking bones, what a bunch of pussies.
i’m about 30-40lbs over my weight limit.
in the army, if you exceed hight/weight standards, they ‘tape’ you.
they measure the size of your neck, and the size of your waist.
then those numbers are put into an equation that supposedly determins your body fat.
for males, you must be under 20% body fat.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
i’m about 30-40lbs over my weight limit.
in the army, if you exceed hight/weight standards, they ‘tape’ you.
they measure the size of your neck, and the size of your waist.
then those numbers are put into an equation that supposedly determins your body fat.
for males, you must be under 20% body fat.[/quote]
That’s pretty crazy. What if you’re over the weight limit but you’ve got low body fat?
I mean like over weight fat wise with out a lot of muscle they really don’t use bmi’s even though they say they do on the websites.
Unless you are a pilot or a tank driver or something to do with small spaces your weight dosnt really matter (if u arnt all fat)
[quote]blazindave wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
blazindave wrote:
I’m going to go this monday to the recruit office. Hopefully i can start this summer.
Thanks for the luck 
Guess that’s too bad then, oh well.
Thanks guys
what’s to bad?
do you know what you want to do in the military?
It’s too bad that i can’t lift. I would have though that they’d encourage that.
I’m really interested in combat engineering/sapper.
When i graduate, i will apply for officer and a position in aerospace. For now combat engineer sounds like it’ll be pretty fun.
thekrown wrote:
You’re applying now and want in summer 09? Good luck. Sign up is long. I applied in november or so of 08 and did my medical march 19. They will get back to me 2-3 weeks before I can do my physical.
Edit: I am also worried about losses but I was thinking of just firing up good old rippetoes right after boot camp. That program really does boost strength levels incredibly fast.
Damn, really? I m going to apply tomorrow. I thought the physical and medical were done the day you go to apply.
That sucks. I hope they process me fast i REALLY want to start this summer. Waiting a year to train for boot camp would suck hard.[/quote]
Considering you train and don’t want to loose strength you may be better off going next year. The reason I say this is because they actually have a part-time boot camp that starts this september (and probably next september as well). So you could aim for that if you don’t want to loose any strength.
As for the sign up speed, they have scrwed up my medical date and it was pushed back about a month or so, but it was still long for me.
If you’re over the weight limit, but you’re body fat is under the threshold than you’re fine. You just have to get taped as long as you’re over.
[quote]lloydk wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
i’m about 30-40lbs over my weight limit.
in the army, if you exceed hight/weight standards, they ‘tape’ you.
they measure the size of your neck, and the size of your waist.
then those numbers are put into an equation that supposedly determins your body fat.
for males, you must be under 20% body fat.
That’s pretty crazy. What if you’re over the weight limit but you’ve got low body fat?[/quote]
I was over the weight limit and had low body fat especially when I first came in. They still made me drop weight just to sign up. Once I was in, the tape was all that mattered and whether you could pass the PT tests.
There are about 3 guys who are pro bodybuilders who are also in the military.
In the army, you will find more highly developed lifters than in the service I was in, but there are still quite a few guys who are tipping the scales over 250lbs and they aren’t fat.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I was over the weight limit and had low body fat especially when I first came in. They still made me drop weight just to sign up. Once I was in, the tape was all that mattered and whether you could pass the PT tests.
There are about 3 guys who are pro bodybuilders who are also in the military.
In the army, you will find more highly developed lifters than in the service I was in, but there are still quite a few guys who are tipping the scales over 250lbs and they aren’t fat.[/quote]
Ah I see. I don’t think we had anything like that here in the UK. As long as you could do PT and pass the criteria tests (where pretty tough in my branch), it was all good. Even had guys who just had huge bellies who could run just like anyone else.
I couldn’t imagine being a pro bodybuilder in the military, I mean, what happens when you want to cut? Or when you go in the field? Do they have methods of dealing with this? When I’m back in, I’ll be in one of three fighting units, and there is pretty much always one of these units in Afghanistan, or even all three. In fact, even when the three units are back home, there are still remnants of them over there. Will be pretty much impossible to maintain any real weight. I’ve basically accepted that this is going to be a period in my life where being huge won’t be possible!
this (and his other) video/s were taken of him while he was deployed in iraq. pretty strong dude in my opinion.
no excuses.
My battle buddy who i went to military school with left before he could graduate because his unit was deploying.
while there he gained 20lbs, on top of being a SAW gunner with the 101st.
Not the biggest guy in the world, but still shows what dedication can achieve.
(any gun buffs - notice the ‘airborne’ model of the m249, fucking awesome)
[quote]lloydk wrote:
I couldn’t imagine being a pro bodybuilder in the military, I mean, what happens when you want to cut? Or when you go in the field? Do they have methods of dealing with this? When I’m back in, I’ll be in one of three fighting units, and there is pretty much always one of these units in Afghanistan, or even all three. In fact, even when the three units are back home, there are still remnants of them over there. Will be pretty much impossible to maintain any real weight. I’ve basically accepted that this is going to be a period in my life where being huge won’t be possible!
[/quote]
It can suck to some degree. I would guess that being in the military set me back about 3 years or more as far as this is concerned. There were a number of times that my progress was put on hold, especially during any deployment. You can’t work on dieting correctly when your intake will be MRE’s for two weeks.
However, other than that I had no problems. I hit my heaviest body weight while in.
All AF bases have gyms to my knowledge.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
this (and his other) video/s were taken of him while he was deployed in iraq. pretty strong dude in my opinion.
no excuses.[/quote]
I used to train with one Lt who was even bigger than that. Some of those guys make the people here complaining about how they don’t have time look like babies.
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X i totally agree, some of the people in the army amaze me how big they are
He’s pretty big considering he’s on tour there, where the hell does he find the food? lol
I’m not sure if British and American operations on the ground are different in major ways, but surely someone can’t maintain a build like that whilst eating ration packs, and no gym or weights, whilst on a 3 week long fighting operation?
I know there is a problem in Afghanistan, that the front line combat troops are underweight because of the high calorie requirement vs actual calorie intake. If you watch Ross Kemp in Afghanistan, there is a clip that shows particularly clearly how bad it is. Think Auschwitz + a suntan.
Edit: That video says a lot. I guarantee front line troops in Afghanistan won’t have access to a gym like that, and I have a suspicion that it’s one of the those super camps with like, fast food joints and stuff. This just isn’t realistic for guys who’re living in holes in the ground!
lloydk,
my battle buddy was with the 101st kicking in doors. i assure you he was on what you would consider the ‘front lines’.
while you’re right, during the initial invasion, it would be hard to find places to lift, it is now possible to be on the ‘front lines’ as you say, and continue to lift and get strong.
he had all of us constantly sending him power bars and those vacume sealed packs of tuna. other than that i don’t know the specifics of his food intake.