How Crucial is Cardio for a BB'er?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Doyle wrote:

Also to whoever was talking about sweating quickly being a sign that your unfit, The fitter you are the more efficient you get at cooling your body, so you sweat more quickly when your fitter.

This is very true. In fact, I have read some studies in the past linking sweating more with better fitness levels, not lesser. I sweat a ridiculous amount. I wish I could turn this shit off for once. [/quote]

Really? That made my day, I sweat much faster than anyone I know, at least it’s something positive

Ive ben doing six HIIT seshuns per week; that has been working well for me.

[quote]WannaBeRealBig wrote:
Ive ben doing six HIIT seshuns per week; that has been working well for me. [/quote]

Your profile lists you at 160lbs at 5’11". Why are you doing so many “HIIT seshuns”?

[quote]matko5 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Doyle wrote:

Also to whoever was talking about sweating quickly being a sign that your unfit, The fitter you are the more efficient you get at cooling your body, so you sweat more quickly when your fitter.

This is very true. In fact, I have read some studies in the past linking sweating more with better fitness levels, not lesser. I sweat a ridiculous amount. I wish I could turn this shit off for once.

Really? That made my day, I sweat much faster than anyone I know, at least it’s something positive[/quote]

I knew this captain when I was in the army who was so fit that he would start sweating even before we started pt in the morning. His body just knew it was time to get warmed up. This was in upstate New York, snow piled up to the windows. Crazy.

OP: cardio is very individual. I do maybe two days a week, very light. You, maybe less, maybe more.

[quote]Bingbeast wrote:
how important is cardio really?

does it really interfere with strength gains?

does it make more sense to just cut the extra calories out of your diet?

HIIT sounds superior but wouldn’t that interfere with recovery?

Just a few basic questions i have. I’m trying to cut down a bit, so i figure cardio is pretty important. My uncle is a good bodybuilder and he always tells me that cardio is over rated. It takes too long, saps strength. He has told me the best ting to do is train hard in the gym and spend the rest of my time in the kitchen preparing meals (and maybe some stretching on off days for recovery)

any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.[/quote]

Depends, if you are a fat ass like me or not. For me - cardio is crucial.

Depends on how many times/duration you do. It IS interfering with my strength right now because I do about 2 hours per day - low intensity steady state.

Yes for smarter people, reducing cals is the first step to getting leaner. Dumb people like me do more cardio first instead. My brother just reduced some calories by eating less carbs = getting slowly ripper every week without excessive cardio and no counting of calories (yet).

Again depends on if you do INTENSE HIIT or not. The one time I did a real HIIT session, it interfered greatly with strength and recovery in my legs for a few days.

Curious my legs seem to recover faster than my other muscles, I consider them as a gift of the consistent cardio work what I did all year round (mostly steady state work with medium intensity for 30-40 minutes, such as biking or walking)

Walking for me at fast pace is rather intense compared to that tempo what I have while shopping :smiley:

[quote]matko5 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Doyle wrote:

Also to whoever was talking about sweating quickly being a sign that your unfit, The fitter you are the more efficient you get at cooling your body, so you sweat more quickly when your fitter.

This is very true. In fact, I have read some studies in the past linking sweating more with better fitness levels, not lesser. I sweat a ridiculous amount. I wish I could turn this shit off for once.

Really? That made my day, I sweat much faster than anyone I know, at least it’s something positive[/quote]

Don’t even get me started on sweating. I actually just scheduled an apt. with a neurologist due to my excessive sweating. There is a procedure he does here at GWU in DC that many say is very effective (somewhere in the 90%+ range) for hyperhidrosis. I’m truly sick of my cranial/facial sweating in social situations and interviews, and after going to two dermatologists and one internist, I’ve turned to the bigger guns. I’ll let everyone know how it goes.

Prof., do you remember where you found those studies linking sweat to better fitness levels? I’d like to see that. Thanks.

this thread is so fucking stupid

[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:

Depends, if you are a fat ass like me or not. For me - cardio is crucial.

Depends on how many times/duration you do. It IS interfering with my strength right now because I do about 2 hours per day - low intensity steady state.

Yes for smarter people, reducing cals is the first step to getting leaner. Dumb people like me do more cardio first instead. My brother just reduced some calories by eating less carbs = getting slowly ripper every week without excessive cardio and no counting of calories (yet).

Again depends on if you do INTENSE HIIT or not. The one time I did a real HIIT session, it interfered greatly with strength and recovery in my legs for a few days.
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No offense but the reason you have to do so much cardio is your diet sucks plain and simple…as you have stated. I have no idea why it is so hard for you to lay off the “plate lunches”/snickers/etc which you
seem to consume on a daily basis. Hell you could probably eat almost the same amount of calories as you
are eating now but if you cut half of the crap you could probably get away with 1/4 of the cardio.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
WannaBeRealBig wrote:
Ive ben doing six HIIT seshuns per week; that has been working well for me.

Your profile lists you at 160lbs at 5’11". Why are you doing so many “HIIT seshuns”?[/quote]

Ya know he’s signing a contract with Hollister.

[quote]USINGNOWAYASWAY wrote:
WHO definition of Health

Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.

[/quote]

The WHO can bite me. Obviously a health organization is interested in creating the broadest possible definition of health in order to broaden the scope of their powers.

Words mean what they mean. Not what the WHO says they mean. (The H1N1 “pandemic” is another good example of this.)

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Doyle wrote:

Also to whoever was talking about sweating quickly being a sign that your unfit, The fitter you are the more efficient you get at cooling your body, so you sweat more quickly when your fitter.

This is very true. In fact, I have read some studies in the past linking sweating more with better fitness levels, not lesser. I sweat a ridiculous amount. I wish I could turn this shit off for once. [/quote]

I think I’ve read those too. Isn’t it similar to heart rate wherein fitter people have faster increases in heart rate and recover quicker and fitter people start sweating sooner and stop more quickly after exercising?

I’ve tried doing no cardio and with cardio mixed with my workouts. If you eat more calories than you burn, you’ll gain weight. And vice versa. I feel a lot healthier, and my bloodwork is better when I am doing cardio. I think there is still a lot we don’t know about how the body responds to different types of training and how it responds to the proper mix of training and cardio. Everybody is different, you just have to find what works for you.