Prof X, are you referring to me? I was just looking for different opinions.
As a new lifter all of 3 weeks in the gym… i defy anyone to do 4 sets of 13-15 rep back squats and not be dead on the floor afterward !
Running around a football field pales significantly compared to the above !
The bottom line is, if you are indeed weight training at the required intensity-feeling dizzy and sick after leg day and drenched in sweat, it is very unlikely you’ll get fat enough to need added cardio.
But most people just don’t have the balls to accomplish this unfortunately.
No idea, but I found that everything what is NEW to my body is very demanding, thus leads to increased fat burn. That’s why I like to do several types of training (weight, sprints, swimming, KB) while on a diet. More activity allows more food, I sleep better, and take naps if possible. So I mostly do short cuttings, like 4-6 weeks, with refeeds every week. This way I can drop fat without putting my hard-earned muscle to peril.
Anyway, I love cardio… Every form of it, the more I’m struggling with breathing, the better. Just keep is brief, just as weight training… short, but fuckin intense, not getting of my bike without trembling…
Or at least it feels so good. heck, it even aids my recovery, and helps to prevent extrem soreness …
That sounds so…crossfit.
hahaha
WHO definition of Health
Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
[quote]USINGNOWAYASWAY wrote:
WHO definition of Health
Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
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Your point?
In response to your earlier question (sprinters v marathon runners), don’t you think genetics have a big component to play there?
Are either bodybuilders? NO. Sprinters obviously have great genes and usually good biomechanics, but they’re usually sprinters for a reason…not all sprinters are freaks in the gym either (or look like Greek Adonis’s - Usain Bolt???)
i always found that comparison funny… because i always try to imagine Ronnie Coleman sprinting. Haha, he kills me.
[quote]USINGNOWAYASWAY wrote:
WHO definition of Health
Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
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When I read this, I picture a scrawny underfed yoga instructor who brags about how he can hold a certain strange pose for minutes on end.
nopefitt. Only once I was a fatass so I need to do cardio all year long, otherwise I can get fat pretty quickly. And please, don’t tell me to reduce my food intake, as it’s a pleasure to eat a lot. My goal now is to shot for 105 kg, and pack some meat onto my chest-shoulders-arms. Unfortunately most of my gains come to my back and legs.
I see no reason why should I avoid cardio, if I both enjoy it and helps me to recover…
[quote]SmallToBig wrote:
As a new lifter all of 3 weeks in the gym… i defy anyone to do 4 sets of 13-15 rep back squats and not be dead on the floor afterward !
Running around a football field pales significantly compared to the above ![/quote]
Better yet, try squatting 1.5-2x your own body weight and compare.
If you’re looking to build endurance for sports or looking to lose fat: cardio will definitely speed the process up.
Fundamentally, you don’t NEED cardio for cardiovascular fitness. We tend to overlook the fact that weight lifting is cardio in itself. You’ll see the more you squat, the easier it is to run and carry your own body weight. Your cardiovascular system goes through vital changes and adaptations due to weight lifting.
Unless you want to run marathons, compete in long distance bicycling or train for a sport (MMA, boxing, rugby, etc.). It interferes w/ strength, speed & power. At the end of the day, interval training & weight lifting outweigh traditional aerobic exercise in terms of benefits and application–considering you don’t fall into the category mentioned in the first line of this post.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
A healthy cardiovascular system helps deliver nutrients throughout the body better. That being said, I hate cardio and haven’t done it in a while[/quote]
LMAO
[quote]NickRageSkursky wrote:
Am I the only one who’s squat suffers with frequent cardio?
I was squatting 335x3 before I started doing serious cardio and now I’m down to 1 or maybe 2 on a good day.[/quote]
I soo know what you mean… It can be fixed though with BCAA’s and getting enough calories on your cardio days.
As for cardio:
Dr Clay Hyght from 'Advice you don’t want to hear '[ https://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/advice_you_dont_want_to_hear ]
If you’re doing as much as you can with your diet and your strength training, and you still aren’t as lean as you want to be, you need to stop looking for excuses and just do your damned cardio.
Says it all.
Very interesting, seems like the only way to know what works best is self experimentations. I have been doing my 45 min cardio after weight training. I train weights at noon and cardio in the afternoon. Five times a week, but now I realize that the extra activity may interfere with my strength and recovery. I will experiment and begin to limit my cardio and just focus all my energy on strength gains and super compensation. Bottom line: Less cardio just means extra attention to proper nutrition.
The only cardio I do is sled work
Do some form of cardio…great for your heart health and gives a great mental boost.
Coming in a tad late here, but I’ll give me opinion:
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It is both goal dependent and individual. If cardio is interfering with your ability to add quality muscle, ditch it. However, if lack of cardio is leading to a surplus of fat gain, add more in. There is often a balance to find here.
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For myself, if I drop cardio altogether I find the results noticeably negative. Body fat increases rather quickly in relation to muscular weight.
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If you are the type of person who can do no cardio and stay lean while adding quality LBM, more power to you… You do not need to worry about it.
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The same is true for cutting, Our very own Thibs has gotten relatively lean before and admitted to very little cardio work. I have been that lean (not as muscular by 30 pounds probably, so factor that in) and was doing almost 10 hours a week to reach that state.
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Of course there is more to it than cosmetics, from a health standpoint I suppose a little cardio here and there can go a long way, and its always nice to be able to walk up a flight of stairs and not have to take a 10 Mississippi to catch your breath.
My personal experience has been that I can maintain good cardio fitness by only doing weight training. Even though the only cardio exerxise I have done regularly over the last couple of months has been a 5 min warm up, i don’t have any trouble jogging a few kilometers with my girlfriend.
Also to whoever was talking about sweating quickly being a sign that your unfit, The fitter you are the more efficient you get at cooling your body, so you sweat more quickly when your fitter.
[quote]Doyle wrote:
Also to whoever was talking about sweating quickly being a sign that your unfit, The fitter you are the more efficient you get at cooling your body, so you sweat more quickly when your fitter.[/quote]
This is very true. In fact, I have read some studies in the past linking sweating more with better fitness levels, not lesser. I sweat a ridiculous amount. I wish I could turn this shit off for once.