[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
Bundy and Kneegro you are both dead wrong about rolling the shoulders forward. Some of the best deadlifters in the world do use that technique. It’s one of those individual things that works for some but doesn’t for others.
Video proof.
Op, nice job on getting the lift bro keep at and 500 will fall soon.
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Konstantinov’s form isn’t exactly what you would teach someone learning the deadlift. Since when is rounding your upper back recommended? Great deadlifter, definitely knows what he’s doing, but just because his form is somewhat unorthodox doesn’t mean rolling your shoulders forward is recommended for most people. It ain’t.
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
Bundy and Kneegro you are both dead wrong about rolling the shoulders forward. Some of the best deadlifters in the world do use that technique. It’s one of those individual things that works for some but doesn’t for others.
Video proof.
Op, nice job on getting the lift bro keep at and 500 will fall soon.
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Konstantinov’s form isn’t exactly what you would teach someone learning the deadlift. Since when is rounding your upper back recommended? Great deadlifter, definitely knows what he’s doing, but just because his form is somewhat unorthodox doesn’t mean rolling your shoulders forward is recommended for most people. It ain’t.[/quote]
Andy Bolton recommends it. He has an article on T-Nation where specifically states it.
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
Bundy and Kneegro you are both dead wrong about rolling the shoulders forward. Some of the best deadlifters in the world do use that technique. It’s one of those individual things that works for some but doesn’t for others.
Video proof.
Op, nice job on getting the lift bro keep at and 500 will fall soon.
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Konstantinov’s form isn’t exactly what you would teach someone learning the deadlift. Since when is rounding your upper back recommended? Great deadlifter, definitely knows what he’s doing, but just because his form is somewhat unorthodox doesn’t mean rolling your shoulders forward is recommended for most people. It ain’t.[/quote]
Kneegro, you and bundy are saying that rolling shoulders forward is something you never should do. I am saying that actually some really good deadlifters do in fact do this. Aside from lower back being slightly arched to straight, all other bits of form is fairly subjective.
I don’t know about you, but i prefer to have as many tools at my disposal if needed. Alot of how someone deadlifts will come down to personal preference. Yeah there are some general guidelines most should follow, but there many ways to perform the deadlift successfully.
I was just going to mention the shoulders rolling thing too. But remember KK rolling his shoulders with 900 pounds on the bar is different than a brand new lifter rolling his shoulders with 315 on the bar.
[quote]shootingman99 wrote:
I was just going to mention the shoulders rolling thing too. But remember KK rolling his shoulders with 900 pounds on the bar is different than a brand new lifter rolling his shoulders with 315 on the bar.[/quote]
[quote]shootingman99 wrote:
I was just going to mention the shoulders rolling thing too. But remember KK rolling his shoulders with 900 pounds on the bar is different than a brand new lifter rolling his shoulders with 315 on the bar.[/quote]
Correct. [/quote]
Yes, 315<936.
Beyond that, the technique can still be used by novice lifters if its done properly and does not cause the lifters form or joints to suffer. Now, if said novice lifter cannot perform the rest of the lift properly then the shoulder roll/upper back bend might need to be dropped. In any case, this is individual thing. Some use it, some don’t.
I hit 405 for 3 really fucking ugly reps 5 months ago, about 1 year after starting to deadlift.
Amazingly I have not surpassed that due to fucking about for the last 5 mentioned months… looking forward to getting my shit togheter and progressing in the deadlift this year, my favourite and best lift.
[quote]shootingman99 wrote:
I was just going to mention the shoulders rolling thing too. But remember KK rolling his shoulders with 900 pounds on the bar is different than a brand new lifter rolling his shoulders with 315 on the bar.[/quote]
Correct. [/quote]
Yes, 315<936.
Beyond that, the technique can still be used by novice lifters if its done properly and does not cause the lifters form or joints to suffer. Now, if said novice lifter cannot perform the rest of the lift properly then the shoulder roll/upper back bend might need to be dropped. In any case, this is individual thing. Some use it, some don’t.
EDIT: OP congrats on the lift.[/quote]
Yeah but the point is most average lifters probably don’t need to worry too much about the small things. The shoulders rounding is the best and most natural anatomical position for pulling though.
I recently did 4 plates on DL for 2 sets of 7. The feeling is just amazing. You know when you take the bar from the rack, you feel all the weight on your arms that are kind of stretching and then you say, wow I won’t do that ! and then, you realize that you did it and it was not that heavy…
I never tried my 1 RM, since I am more on the bodybuilding side rather than powerlifting. I may be wrong but I don’ feel like I need to know my 1 RM
4 plates look hella sexy on a bar. Shit, I’m working on 3, and I did 295 three days ago and thought THAT looked sexy on the bar…sigh. I shall kepp working!
Congrats man.
This is my first post on this forum, and I’m not saying I know anything (I don’t and I’ve been lifting for a couple months) but I happened to read a Dave Tate article about deadlifting earlier today that recommended not pulling your shoulder blades together. He didn’t say to roll them forward during the lift, but he did say to let them hang loose because it lets your arms hang down farther so you don’t have to pull quite so far. I think the article was called “The Dead Zone” or something.
Congrats on the 405 :] This is my short-term goal for my deadlift and I hope to reach in fairly soon.
