[quote]belligerent wrote:
Phill wrote:
One thing NOT to ignore that can be a great help as well is your diet the quality of it the nutrients etc. This will play a HUGE roll as well
Phill
diet has little or nothing to do with the development of hip arthritis (which is the concern here)[/quote]
I’m not sure about that because arthritis is basically inflammation. There are many types of arthritis, not just one. I’ve seen studies that say fish oils and fatty acids help symptoms with rheumatoid arthritis patients. I would think diet has to play some type of role in the development.
I don’t really know much about the topic, so I may be wrong.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
belligerent wrote:
Phill wrote:
One thing NOT to ignore that can be a great help as well is your diet the quality of it the nutrients etc. This will play a HUGE roll as well
Phill
diet has little or nothing to do with the development of hip arthritis (which is the concern here)
I’m not sure about that because arthritis is basically inflammation. There are many types of arthritis, not just one. I’ve seen studies that say fish oils and fatty acids help symptoms with rheumatoid arthritis patients. I would think diet has to play some type of role in the development.
I don’t really know much about the topic, so I may be wrong.[/quote]
Well, you’re partly right- there are many types of arthritis that are caused by inflammation.
However, the most common type of arthritis, and the one relevant to the original poster- degenerative arthritis or osteoarthritis- is caused by the mechanical destruction of articular cartilage and is not an inflammatory disorder.
The term ‘arthritis’ is actually a misnomer in that respect (in academia it is now considered appropriate to refer to it as ‘arthrosis’).
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
belligerent wrote:
Phill wrote:
One thing NOT to ignore that can be a great help as well is your diet the quality of it the nutrients etc. This will play a HUGE roll as well
Phill
diet has little or nothing to do with the development of hip arthritis (which is the concern here)
I’m not sure about that because arthritis is basically inflammation. There are many types of arthritis, not just one. I’ve seen studies that say fish oils and fatty acids help symptoms with rheumatoid arthritis patients. I would think diet has to play some type of role in the development.
I don’t really know much about the topic, so I may be wrong.
Well, you’re partly right- there are many types of arthritis that are caused by inflammation.
However, the most common type of arthritis, and the one relevant to the original poster- degenerative arthritis or osteoarthritis- is caused by the mechanical destruction of articular cartilage and is not an inflammatory disorder.
The term ‘arthritis’ is actually a misnomer in that respect (in academia it is now considered appropriate to refer to it as ‘arthrosis’).
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was under the misconception all arthritis was due to inflammation.
Parabellum at least get your hips evaluated so you can see if you have a structure that encourages impingement.
Bodies break down over time anyway. Participating in an extreme sport like powerlifting with structural abnormalities that encourage arthritis is a recipe for disaster.
Keeping your hips healthy: Work the smaller rotator muscles of the hip (flexors, abductors and adductors) and make sure you pay atention to your pelvic tilt.
[quote]Kelly Baggett wrote:
Keeping your hips healthy: Work the smaller rotator muscles of the hip (flexors, abductors and adductors) and make sure you pay atention to your pelvic tilt. [/quote]
Kelly,
I’ve been meaning to ask you this because I respect your opinion, how you recommend going about doing this? what exercises? do you want us to jump on those aductor and abductor macines?
Like for example, it seems that for the shoulder most reccomend to start doing the rotator cuff exercises. Which is probably good advice. I used to them religiously, no shoulder probs then stopped. Now do them again, shoulder seems to be getting much better
It really depends on the individual. One mans potion is another man’s poison. The common imbalances are weak glutes, weak hip flexors and over dominant TFL. First thing I’d do is look at the pelvic tilt. Posterior tilt is more problematic with hip problems. If the hip flexors are weak the head of the femur slides out of place causing anterior hip pain.
A few tests I’d look at include:
Standing hip flexion. Stand against a wall, lift one knee up past parallel, release and hold the knee up for 10 seconds. This tests the psoas. Difficulty performing (particularly in combination with posterior pelvic tilt) indicates elongated and weak psoas.
Prone leg raise: lie down on the stomach, observe the glutes and hams, and lift the leg up. Watch which fires first the glutes or hams. Many times the hams will fire first, indicating a need for more glute work.
TFL dominance: This lends itself towards too much internal hip rotation and not enough external. Stand on one leg, balance, then flex the glute. If the knee moves outward the TFL is probably dominant and the abductors and glutes are weak.
So basically, hip flexion, abduction, and hip extension are where it’s typically at.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
I also agree that a white man can run under 10.00. If the wind conditions had been more favorable, Shirvington’s 10.03 could have been 9.93.
[quote]jenheath wrote:
It really depends on the individual. One mans potion is another man’s poison. The common imbalances are weak glutes, weak hip flexors and over dominant TFL. First thing I’d do is look at the pelvic tilt. Posterior tilt is more problematic with hip problems. If the hip flexors are weak the head of the femur slides out of place causing anterior hip pain.
A few tests I’d look at include:
Standing hip flexion. Stand against a wall, lift one knee up past parallel, release and hold the knee up for 10 seconds. This tests the psoas. Difficulty performing (particularly in combination with posterior pelvic tilt) indicates elongated and weak psoas.
Prone leg raise: lie down on the stomach, observe the glutes and hams, and lift the leg up. Watch which fires first the glutes or hams. Many times the hams will fire first, indicating a need for more glute work.
TFL dominance: This lends itself towards too much internal hip rotation and not enough external. Stand on one leg, balance, then flex the glute. If the knee moves outward the TFL is probably dominant and the abductors and glutes are weak.
So basically, hip flexion, abduction, and hip extension are where it’s typically at.
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BTW, this was Kelly’s response not mine. He couldn’t log on so I posted it for him.
Any hip problems you get from powerlifting are unlikely to be in the hip joint itself. The impact on your hip joint from brisk walking, let alone running, is greater than doing even a max squat. If you have to get a hip replacement, it just means you drew the short straw and your bones/cartilage were destined to wear out quicker.
Hip problems that are actually related to powerlifting are due to imbalances, technique issues or tightness. These can all be fixed up by using the right therapies. Magnificent Mobility will fix them fast.
Lifted in the 70’s and early 80’s. Was there when the proper squat technique was developed. Did a lot of selective stretching of hips, knees and back before warmup. Best comp squat 776.
Squat suit and properly wrapped wraps were used over 405. Warmdowns were usually 605 for 10.
I am nearing 68 and the only discomfort in my body is from a blown out shoulder from the early 80’s and a repetitive strees knee injury from 2013 developed on a cycling trainer! Raced competively, 2002 to 2010.
Don’t know anybody from my day except R. Crain that had hip problems. He was a Sumo deadlifter so between genetics (though I don’t think Don had any issues) and double use of hip styles of lifting, can see the possibility of!
My suggestions to young lifters is simple, technique, technique, technique! Then proper stretching, solid core work , cardio. Lot’of lighter reps, max rarely after you have spent 10 to 12 weeks of slowly increasing weights and slowly decreasing reps! Focus on the technique during the base training and strength will follow (with minimum risk of injury).
He couldn’t log on so I posted it for him.