Indiana just passed the “anti-junk food” legistlation. It is now law that schools HAVE to offer an equal amount of “healthier selections”. they have laid down guidelines as to what qualifies as healthier selections in vending machines. A Trix Snack Bar falls within these guidelines. I think those are packed with sugar too aren’t they?
They can still offer the candy bars, but half of the vending machine selections have to be baked items, fruits or veggies, milk, water, and low cal soft drinks.
I think the vending machines should be removed from the schools entirely. They are still going to buy the crappy stuff.
www.in.gov/legislative has all of the bills listed. This one is under “Vending Machines”.
[quote]AverageJay wrote:
I live in a small house that is busting at the seams, drive a 15 year old truck, live without all the neat electronic gismos like ipods and everything else so I can send my kids to private school. It sucks seeing how my tax dollars are spent in the public schools knowing I’m also paying what amounts to another house payment for my kids to go to a school where I have a say in what happens while they are at school. But there’s no way I’d leave that up to the drones running the public school system.[/quote]
Depends where you live. You live in the city, private school’s a must. You live in a nice suburb with a great school district, I’d think hard about public school. I went to private school till 7th grade and then went to public school till college. Stayed close with a lot of the private school people. Grew up to be some of the most fucked up people around. They make the OC kids and Laguna Beach and all those stupid reality shows look like priests and nuns.
Most of my public school friends are doing great. I don’t know that the rules are any less stupid or arbitrary either. Though, the parents do have more influence. But I could see this happening in a private school unless enough of the parents made enough of a stink.
I will now oficially shoot myself in the head with a 12ga. 00 buckshot. HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! America is really a confused, fucked up, stupid place. All criticism is deserved.
Ya know, when I was in high school, the athletes were GIVEN protein supps at school several tiems a day. They had their own stash of powders and bars. What the fuck is happening?
Imagine the amounts of soy they probally have in their food too.
Better yet, just put a sticker on your metabolic drive that says “STEROIDS”… see if since they’re a “pro-hormone” and not a “supplement” if you’re allowed to have it.
I can understand not allowing the coaches to provide supplements as this may encourage coaches to ‘push’ certain supps on the kids. I.e. it is a conflict of interest if the coach is a supplement distributer, receiving funds for sale. If I had a son, I would not feel comfortable if the coach were advocating certain supplements.
The students should definitely be allowed to bring in protein shakes or bars. This is very strange.
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
Ya know, when I was in high school, the athletes were GIVEN protein supps at school several tiems a day. They had their own stash of powders and bars. What the fuck is happening?[/quote]
When I was in highschool my coach would take orders from us and buy bulk supps for us so we could get it cheaper. We would get andro, creatine, protein, DHEA. Next thing you know they will implement the “Metro” Dress Code and everyone will have to have a manicure to go to school.
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
Ya know, when I was in high school, the athletes were GIVEN protein supps at school several tiems a day. They had their own stash of powders and bars. What the fuck is happening?[/quote]
When I was in High School, they gave us baseball players free samples of chewing tobacco. Red Man. In the golden pouch.
It’s true.
I guess since they stopped that, they had to find other ways to thin (or thicken, depending on how you look at it) the population. Look at Florida, where a couple of counties BANNED “running” on the school playgrounds.
Much like Congress, it’s just people making un-informed decisions on subjects they know absolutely nothing about.
The parents really need to step in on this and stop the bleeding, though.
[quote]tveddy wrote:
When I was in highschool my coach would take orders from us and buy bulk supps for us so we could get it cheaper. We would get andro, creatine, protein, DHEA. Next thing you know they will implement the “Metro” Dress Code and everyone will have to have a manicure to go to school.[/quote]
High school kids getting andro is just plain stupid.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
I really dont see the problem in this…
Here’s the reason. As soon as little johnny bodybuilder gets caught with some protein powder he’s going to be punished - the powder’s confiscated, he’s got detention, suspension, whatever. Johnny goes home crying to mommy and daddy, who threaten to retain a lawyer and sue the collective ass of the school board. The board, being a collection of elected officials, show no spine whatsoever, and immediately cave. Bingo, proteins back.
A lot of people in this thread have said “only in america” (which i dont believe, btw.) I say, only in america can you count on the threat of a lawsuit to get your way[/quote]
[quote]beefcakemdphd wrote:
I can understand not allowing the coaches to provide supplements as this may encourage coaches to ‘push’ certain supps on the kids. I.e. it is a conflict of interest if the coach is a supplement distributer, receiving funds for sale. If I had a son, I would not feel comfortable if the coach were advocating certain supplements.
The students should definitely be allowed to bring in protein shakes or bars. This is very strange.
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Many schools get kickbacks from Coke and Pepsi.
If the supplement companies gave the schools kickbacks too they would be allowed.
Why don’t they just pre-mix their shakes, pour it into an empty bottle of Yoohoo, and put it in their lunch boxes? You can pretty much get any flavor of milk nowdays that will match with the protein supp. you like, and it won’t look or taste that much different.
Unless your school plans on breeding and training Protein Dogs, dogs that are capable of sniffing and barking obnoxiously at any type of protein, then I’d say it’s pretty fucking easy to sneak it in. If kids are smart enough to get guns through the door, then getting protein shakes in should be a snap.
[quote]Stuey wrote:
This attitude towards supplements is not just an american thing.
I was explaining to my housemate last night that I am cutting to get my weight down for boxing, while I drank my protein shake - he says well you don’t want to be “taking” that because your muscles will grow and you won’t lose any weight.
He also said I should take creatine because “it will make my muscles leaner”.
This is a supposedly intelligent man who is at least a little bit into fitness.
I told him that the protein shake was not some magic thing that would make my muscles huge - it is just food, and I am using it to up my protein intake while on a low calorie diet to help preserve muscle mass.
He stared at me blankly.
In one ear and out the other.
I usually don’t even bother explaining this stuff, but I have to live with the prick so I though I would at least try.
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I think I would go with wearing headphones 24/7 if I were you.
[quote]TriGWU wrote:
jjoseph_x wrote:
TriGWU wrote:
I can’t describe how frustrated this makes me. I even want to go back in and say how wrong it is.
It’s a knee-jerk reaction to steriods and GH in baseball (and everywhere else).
People agree that steroid are bad (they can be… but so can lots of things) and then they look at what other supplements this steroid crowd uses and they want to ban all of that stuff too (and schools can pretty much ban whatever they like).
Why don’t you just remind this person that people need protein and atheletes need more than the average person. If they don’t get enough in their diet there’s nothing wrong with a protein shake. People use vitamin supplements, right? They school - I hope - doesn’t ban those.
What’s the differnce between student bringing a few protein bars or a few cans of Tuna?
Can’s of Tuna are allowed. Go figure.
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Is there some massive list of what is or isn’t allowed?? Sounds like they put a lot thought into this, which is scary just by itself.
[quote]Firefighter147 wrote:
half of the vending machine selections have to be baked items, fruits or veggies, milk, water, and low cal soft drinks.[/quote]
baked item = pizza pocket, cinnamon roll
fruit or veggies = ‘fruit’(chemicals and refined sugar) roll-ups
low cal soft drink = carcinogens, air bubbles, food dye, and water
good thing they have laws in place now! hahahahaha