[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]JaggedG wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
[quote]JaggedG wrote [abridged]:
…massive abdominal contraction…[/quote]
No, I have as well. Unfortunately, it is a sign that you are not doing them properly (straight back).[/quote]
Seriously? I thought it was supposed to be felt in the abs. By “straight back” do you mean the back should remain vertical throughout the rep, or are you talking about rounding?[/quote]
No, not like that. You will not feel it in the abs if you do fronts with a properly straight (extended) back. Of course, that doesn’t mean that the abs won’t be working at all.
However, if you do fronts without an extended back (like the vast majority of non-Olympic weightlifter) then there is a good chance that the abs have to work in overdrive at some point to keep any form of stability since the back isn’t given any.[/quote]
Wouldn’t that just mean the low back takes the force jsut like a rounded leaning forward back squat. Since that is what you are doing. You kinda are forced with a front squat to stay upright. Not sure how you can not do them upright
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Well, it is meaningful to divide the erector spinae into upper and lower part as you know. Whenever one of them rounds (the muscles are relaxed then) the passive structures (disks, ligaments) have to take up the sheer forces.
Look at almost any heavy front squat video by non-WLer and you will see a rounding of the upper erector spinae after they come out of the hole. The lower erector spinae can be rounded but is typically less so due to the use of a lifting belt (and/or a strong contraction of the abs). So, you certainly CAN and most people DO “thug up” a front squat but typically to a lesser degree than back squats.[/quote]
Well I guess I don’t agree with rounded meaning relaxed. Means they are lengthened but doesn’t mean they can’t be contracted still. They are in a weak position to contract the farther they are stretched