Dont want to hijack your thread but I’ll share my own experiences at it relates to what you’re going through.
On Tren I dont have true insomnia but very light sleep. The first 2 times I used it I had fun cause I woke up ready to go with less sleep. This time around I woke up tired, and I have horrible night sweats - and I’m a week OFF from Tren. Dammit I hope they go away.
You talk about being irritable on Tren. Again the first times with it I felt like a serial killer. Cold, calculated anger, not true “roid rage” (whatever that is). This time around I had no problem with that whatsoever.
The constant: diminished appetite, raisin balls (though fully fonctional rod!), and AMAZING gains.
I too dislike quad shots though I do them sometimes. You cant pin glutes all the time if you use ED shots IMO.
One thing you can try instead of stopping Tren is going for a much lighter dose; say 40mg EOD. That still gives amazing results with a lot less sides.
Nice to be able to get in the gym and out of the cold today. Tren is definintely having an effect on training and physique. I have this crazy “hard” look that I’ve never before and even when wearing shirts that aren’t tight, you can see all the lines of my back… I was pretty jacked up about it.
One thing I have noticed too is that I absolutely must wear boxer briefs now. I have a small waist, 28-29" depending on the day and my legs have blown up…
Something else I realized is that I have gained weight every day of this cycle I believe, except there might have been one day in which I stayed the same…
As far as sides go, I’m tired as shit right now, so hopefully I will get some good rest. Also, apparently I am very irritable and get easily pissed off…
Nice job on the weight gain bro somethin like 13-14 pounds right? nicely done. Sounds like the sides of the tren are worth it in a way at least to some people huh? Sounds like your enjoying the benefits at least, glad you didnt drop it. keep up the hard work
[quote]AlterEgo wrote:
World1187 wrote:
…apparently I am very irritable and get easily pissed off…
No…c’mon! You?
Say it ain’t so!
had to be done, sorry
Carry on
Oh and very nice work btw, Mr World sir.[/quote]
Up yours Alter…
hahaha
Well folks, be prepared for a slightly more mellow and easy going World for another 2 weeks or so. Today is my last day of anadrol, winny, and tren. I will be doing 2 weeks of test only, and then adding the tren back in for my last 2 weeks on cycle. However, I will be using tren enan at 250mg E3D in hopes of avoiding the side effects I have experienced this round with the acetate.
[quote]World1187 wrote:
Hardly a waste at all bud…
A much easier way of avoiding side effects actually.[/quote]
So does the tren enanthate ester kick in a lot faster than a longer estered test? I’m with Whoa! in thinking that ace would make more sense for such a short time period.
Also, I guess you are halfway through your cycle at this point. Terrific work and great thread so far. Putting nearly 15lbs on your already big and lean frame in 4 weeks is a hell of an achievement.
[quote]World1187 wrote:
Well Cortes I eat like you wouldn’t believe. I have actual meals every 2-3 hours, but often snack in between them.
It is my belief that tren enan kicks in much quicker than test enan, at least that’s what I’ve seen in certain people I’ve trained that used it.[/quote]
I’m glad you posted that. I totally read that wrong and thought you said Test Enan was good for a two weeker.
Are you starting to smooth out at all? Just curious as to whether you’ve noticed any bloat or whatnot. I figure it would be more noticeable to you since you were pretty darn lean to start with…
I have smoothed out considerably on my quads and glutes. Interestingly enough, it seems everything else is just as hard, not harder, looking as it was pre-cycle. You have to figure I have been running winstrol and tren ace as well though, and that certainly has an effect on my “look.”
The next two weeks will be interesting in that they will be test only. I just recently starting Adex because my right nipple has some growth going in it, so I’m hitting .25mg ED or EOD depending on how I feel. I’d imagine the Adex will significantly keep the bloat down, especially at that dose. Apparently tren gives me gyno since that is the only compound I have used thus far in my life that has ever given me gyno…
After only just a few days of it I look fuller and thicker. This might be due to the fact I am probably burning fewer calories than I do during my usual high volume workouts…
Those extreme stretches are some hard shit.
The other day I learned my lesson on the chest stretch and damn near died when I was done with the 80’s… it was some bad shit fellas. Today on chest I went with 60’s… what’s worse is I was doing the incline at 385 and got 21 total reps… isn’t that embarrassing? lol
Big difference since the last time I weighed a few days ago…
This DC training is great. With the high level of test I am running, I switched from the MWF to the MT TF routine instead.
Mr Z.:
Today I have definitely started to smooth out. I’m two days off tren, drol, and winny. Not a ton, but I definitely can tell something is missing when I look in the mirror, but in the gym, my weights and reps are continuing to improve.
Cycle-wise, I am still debating whether or not to run tren the last two weeks. If I do, I will probably stick with tren ace and run it at the same dose, but perhaps 50mg. We’ll see… I’m just kind of taking it as I feel.
Tonight’s training session was pretty damn good. I can honestly say I was the most mentally focused on this particular session than many of late. I think I am really beginning to buy into the DC style of training-- going for broke on each and every rep.
Tonight’s workout required me to do reverse grip bench presses… I’m not sure if anyone else has done these, but they’re fucking weird.
Something else I have noticed recently on this cycle is I am get insane lower back pumps. Almost to the point of pain. Kind of weird. I believe TB mentioned those a while back, any word Tone?
About to fire up 400mg of test here in a couple minutes. Still horney and pissy as hell, but this weekend should be a good time I am thinking…
My appetite has been drastically reduced ever since I got off the tren, so I am forcing food down now. That’s weird to me because it’s usually the other way around, esp. with a higher dose like 75mg ED.
My strength is shooting through the roof and DC training is a ton of fun because I have the mindset that I am going to be moving heavy ass weight every rep. And I love it. PR tonight-- 162.5 on the preacher for 13 reps. I has happy.
One problem is I am starting to smooth out because of increased water retention. Using Adex E3D now at .25mg. Sure cleared up that gyno I had going in my right nip.
Somewhat of a pissy mood lately, but kicking ass and taking names in the gym. Not horney today though. It was almost becoming a burden.
Packing the mass on without a doubt this weekend. It was basically one big feast for me. I love that about DC training-- you don’t have to schedule your meal times so strictly because training consists of such quick and intense sessions.
One thing I have noticed since beginning the Adex is a much harder look now. Similar, not quite as good, as when I was on the tren. Still debating whether or not to use tren my last two weeks.
