High Dose, Short Cycle

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So recently I’m sure you’ve all noticed me giving Jake a good bit of trouble about his cycle. Not intending to be a dick, but a rather stern sort of mentor… I just want him to get the most out of his cycle… digressing.

So I decided, I’ll put my new cycle out here and allow everyone to tell me what a dipshit or a genius or what have you I am. Here goes, but a few details first.

I decided to try something a bit new this time: a short cycle with high dosages. Typically I’ve run moderately dosed cycles (500mg/wk) for 12-16, but I want to try something new. In addition to usually one of the 4 month guys, I’ve followed up with Clomid and HCG at the end, but I’m going with Prisoner’s taper this time and I’m expecting great things.

Here goes.

Wks 1-8: 800mg test enanthate (400mg inj. on tues. and fri.)
Wks 1, 3-4: 100mg anadrol, 50mg winstrol, ED
Wks: 4-7: .25mg adex E3D
Wks 9-14: 100mg test enanthate (inj. on tues.)
Wks 10-14: adex as needed
Wk 15: 80mg
Wk 16: 60mg
Wk 17: 40mg
Wk 18: 20mg

My logic in this is the fact that I’ll be putting a higher amount of androgen into my body to achieve superior results and a quick recovery, as opposed to a longer more moderately dosed cycle that takes a quarter of the year to recover from if done properly.

My diet is an interesting one in that there I don’t plan to set it until I actually am in the kitchen. That being said however, there will be certain guidelines.

1.) Eating every 2.5 hours I am awake (7AM- 10PM) which will come out to 6-7 meals depending on the day
2.) 700-900 calories per meal, 35-45% protein, 40-50% carbs, and 5-25% fat
3.) One cheat meal every 4 days which will consist of anything and everything I can put down. Last night was my cheat meal and I put down 1.5 large pizzas, a half gallon of whole milk, and nearly a pound of deer sausage.

Currently I stand 5 11 and weigh 207 at 6.5% bf which was measured just 10 hours ago. I recently come off of a very hard cutting period. I started a week ago and weighed 8 pounds less while extremely dehydrated as well. I attribute much of this week’s weight to water gain and getting back to somewhat “normal” living.

Currently, I am on day 8 of this cycle for anyone who was wondering.

Enjoy. I’m sure I hae forgotten something seeing how I do not currently rise this early, but studies must fit in somewhere.

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[quote]World1187 wrote:

Wks 1, 3-4: 100mg anadrol, 50mg winstrol, ED[/quote]

Why take week 2 off?

Otherwise it’s nice. That is a relatively high dose of orals, but for such a short time period you should be fine. Did you every post pics of your current condition? I like put “faces” to names.

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
So recently I’m sure you’ve all noticed me giving Jake a good bit of trouble about his cycle. Not intending to be a dick, but a rather stern sort of mentor… I just want him to get the most out of his cycle… digressing.

So I decided, I’ll put my new cycle out here and allow everyone to tell me what a dipshit or a genius or what have you I am. Here goes, but a few details first.

I decided to try something a bit new this time: a short cycle with high dosages. Typically I’ve run moderately dosed cycles (500mg/wk) for 12-16, but I want to try something new. In addition to usually one of the 4 month guys, I’ve followed up with Clomid and HCG at the end, but I’m going with Prisoner’s taper this time and I’m expecting great things.

Here goes.

Wks 1-8: 800mg test enanthate (400mg inj. on tues. and fri.)
Wks 1, 3-4: 100mg anadrol, 50mg winstrol, ED
Wks: 4-7: .25mg adex E3D
Wks 9-14: 100mg test enanthate (inj. on tues.)
Wks 10-14: adex as needed
Wk 15: 80mg
Wk 16: 60mg
Wk 17: 40mg
Wk 18: 20mg

My logic in this is the fact that I’ll be putting a higher amount of androgen into my body to achieve superior results and a quick recovery, as opposed to a longer more moderately dosed cycle that takes a quarter of the year to recover from if done properly.

My diet is an interesting one in that there I don’t plan to set it until I actually am in the kitchen. That being said however, there will be certain guidelines.

1.) Eating every 2.5 hours I am awake (7AM- 10PM) which will come out to 6-7 meals depending on the day
2.) 700-900 calories per meal, 35-45% protein, 40-50% carbs, and 5-25% fat
3.) One cheat meal every 4 days which will consist of anything and everything I can put down. Last night was my cheat meal and I put down 1.5 large pizzas, a half gallon of whole milk, and nearly a pound of deer sausage.

Currently I stand 5 11 and weigh 207 at 6.5% bf which was measured just 10 hours ago. I recently come off of a very hard cutting period. I started a week ago and weighed 8 pounds less while extremely dehydrated as well. I attribute much of this week’s weight to water gain and getting back to somewhat “normal” living.

Currently, I am on day 8 of this cycle for anyone who was wondering.

Enjoy. I’m sure I hae forgotten something seeing how I do not currently rise this early, but studies must fit in somewhere.[/quote]

This sounds fun. I’m really eager to hear your results. I think they’ll be great, especially considering your stats. I’m with Schwarz in that I would love to see before/after pics. Don’t have to show your face, I didn’t.

I am also very interested in highly dosed short (~8week) cycles for quick gains and quick recovery. I am thinking of entering a bodybuilding show here in September and was thinking of employing 2 short cycles in the run up to it.

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As am I, World do you think your gains will surpass those made in a moderate dosed(500-600mgs/wk) 12 weeker? Do you think they will be more/less permanent? I understand putting a higher amount of androgen should speed recovery and aid in quicker gains, but would the gains be as much and as lasting. The reason i ask is im close to going back “on” and i have enough test to go either way so this may be a route i consider>? thanks!

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[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
World1187 wrote:

Wks 1, 3-4: 100mg anadrol, 50mg winstrol, ED

Why take week 2 off?

[quote]

I was wondering the same thing. But then I also wondered whether it was just a typo…

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I read this the first time early this am before the night shift was over, but just didnt have too much left in the tank to comment.

Looks to be a good one to me too, other than that week two doesnt make a heck of a lot of sense.

Regarding the stasis, I would almost play that one by ear depending on how supressed you are at the time. I know that if I were to include tren in a higher dose 8 week then I think that the 6 weeks would likely still be necessary.

With having started off dieted down to where you are your gains should be quite amazing.

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I’d give pics fellas, but there’ one problem. I’ve been inked a few times and my tattoos are very recognizable. There are many people in my line of work that perusre this forum and I do not want to take any chances of being identified.

Hope that’s not a problem.

The reason I take wk 2 off for orals is kind of screwy. I wanted a kickstart which I got with wk 1, but with this high of a level, I don’t much need a second wk of the kickstart. So therefore I figure why waste em? Instead, use them when my Class I is in full swing and see how that goes.

This cycle is more an experimental thing for me.

As far as the taper goes, I’m going to stay with 6 weeks. Two weeks doesn’t make much a difference with me, but I have seen much better results with a more drawn out taper.

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Hahahaha… alright then. Who wants pictures?

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Actually… I will post them on here, but certain parts will be blacked out so as to cover the tattoos…

That work for everyone?

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
Actually… I will post them on here, but certain parts will be blacked out so as to cover the tattoos…

That work for everyone?[/quote]

Sounds good. I guess I think I have a pretty good idea of what your line of work is, based upon certain things you’ve said in the past. And if it’s what I think it is, I perfectly understand your wariness in posting.

Also, you think about adding any proviron to your cycle? Seems like SHBG would be an issue, or would the 3 weeks of winstrol do something to counter this?

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That’s actually what I’m hoping for from the winstrol. OTherwise I wouldn’t be taking it. Tried some proviron a year or so ago and for one reason or another winny seems to be a better option for me.

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Well there ya go gentleman…

Please try to keep it in your pants… I don’t look quite that good, lol.

For one reason or another Pic #1 likes to show up sometimes and sometimes not. It was a good workout tonight. Went pretty batshit on the legs.

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Another option for ya could been to put them in your profile, set it to private and then only your friends could actually view them.

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I’m confused

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The first three pics have horrible lighting, but the fourth really shows your conditioning well. I’ll be interested in the after pics.

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All this secrecy really isn’t clarifying any of my assumptions about what he does for a living. But judging from the pile of clothes on the floor, the big jug of laundry detergent, and the Texas A&M poster on the door, I’m going to guess unemployed.

Just kidding!

I like this cycle. But like Schwarz said, I’d like to know why you have that “1, 3-4” gap. Also, unless you find yourself to be rather tolerant to E2 side-effects, I think you’ll find it best to up your Arimides dosage. Along the lines of .25mg as you said, only EOD. Personally, AIs don’t usually have much of a negative impact on me (gains or libido wise) so I sometimes go as high as .25 ED. Just feel it out, basically.

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202.3 today fellas… forgot to mention that…

I ate like a horse though too yesterday…