Has anyone herd of this approach before is there any good results from it? Or is it just to save money
Its just to save money. GH half life is very short. Those who want maximum benefits take it 2-5 times A DAY. From benefit standpoint there is no reason to not take it for 2 days.
I also believe that if money is such issue that you need to save 2 days worth of GH, you probably wont be able to take big enough dose for long enough.
Iāve seen papers where people with a hGH deficiency are medically advised to take between 5 and 7 days a week. Iāve not seen anything that says more than once a day
Heres a Tnation post from a member (@baka) who was taking medically once a day at night (there are a few papers stating its best to take at night)
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There are also papers with similar results just taking a larger amount 3 days a week (they mention 3iu per dose rather than around 1iu per dose).
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However these are all sites for āmedicalā use rather than PED use (I use the " because a lot are āwellness clinicsā where Iām sure they stretch the definition of medically needed somewhat?)
I started with 3iu every other day but keep getting carpal tunnel in one wrist (I also had a minor itchy reaction that passed by using antihistamines) so am now using 1iu a day (sometimes miss a day due to life stuff). Iāve tried slowly raising the level but each time I get to 3iu I get wrist pains.
Iām using for āanti-ageingā effects, canāt say Iāve seen much of anything other than a bit of weight loss originally.
This site has a few bits I found interesting, again it is a wellness site so some articles are obviously just selling points.
Please bear in mind Iām not a med pro, or big and strong or rich. If I was any of the above things Iād probably be doing this differentlyā¦
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My numbers stay in the high region for my age taking 0.3mg per day (a little under 3 iu). I suspect on my current dose, theyāre a tad higher and what is giving me the best effect (0.4mg: I have not tested on this dose or higher or I might get a lower dose pen prescription, forcing me to not be able to inject more than prescribed on a daily basis). I have little to no visceral fat; itās as if my body doesnāt want to store it there at all. My skin also sheds a lot quicker and stays tight.
As far as muscle growth goes, I have not resumed going to the gym after completely cutting it off at the beginning of C19 after making my way to 5ā9" 100kg/8-10%ish, probably taking a couple of the shitty end years of my life off abusing testosterone/primo (earlier posts will show up to 750mg test/200mg primo injection per week, but typically 500mg test for 2+ years along with other blasts of orals, with bridging and pushing the limits on weeks run [6+] of orals until my bloodwork said slow down, also taking oral albuterol to keep fat off at like months at a time and resetting with the antihistamine [unsure of its name], really only stopping when my body said ānoā [physically ill]).
I have not found the motivation to get back to being that large. It was also quite expensive too, with $1000~ (edit: with how expensive eggs and everything else is now, it would probably be $1750+) on my food alone to take in the calories I needed as healthily as I could (I probably couldnāt have blasted that long eating shitty).
I suspect, though, that you donāt need to do 5 days to save money, and that you can get the most out of it just injecting normally at a lower dose as youāre already āexogenousā at the point of injection (someone correct me if Iām wrong, but I donāt think injecting tells your body to stop natural production). So, I would say itās better to take 7 days a week at a lower dose than coming off 2 days to get a larger dose as you are still growing on your rest days, and that lower dose might just come in handier than not having any dose at all. Just my opinion, not formulated on anything.
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I think taking exogenous causes a suppression of natural production but only for a very short time (I āthinkā its back up and running within a day or so but cant see anything scientific with a quick search, just a few people āthinkingā it is without actual back up info. Like meā¦)
Which is all more reason to take a lower dose for 7 days as opposed to skipping 2. Wouldnāt you say? Seems like going into a deficit for 2 days would cause more harm than good because growth is still occurring.
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Exactly what I thought too.
For HGH isnāt .3mg = 1iu? My vials are 5.8mg each with just over 17iu
You are correct. 1mg is 3iu
You must be using Omnitrope. Same as I use. How much are you paying if you donāt mind my asking? It cost me $2500 for a kit of 8 vials. At 2iu a day that lasts me 2.5 months so its up there.
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No Iām not through that company. I get mine scripted and filled at local pharmacy through Good Rx. Iāve tried UGL in the past from several sources. I had issues with swelling, water, heart rate etc prob due to dimer content. Pharma no issues. Plus I now only stick with legal scripted routes.
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Wow thatās pretty good, is that via a clinic using Empower? I found a clinic that will Rx it for me and has Empower supply them, but itās very $$$. About $500 per vial. I think that is roughly double retail according to GoodRx. But, I get the legit Rx for AGHD.
Empower currently canāt deliver to VA, something about getting their license renewed. I may be looking to go private here soon.
No I go to my local Publix (grocery in FL) and use a good Rx coupon. Empower wants almost $500/vial as you said. With Good Rx and a kit itās down to a little over $300/vial. Thatās atrocious compared to UGL but I didnāt have good experience with UGL HGh and as stated Iām keeping it legal moving forward.
The dream; using goodrx at an actual pharmacy
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FWIW Iāve had hormone problems my whole life. Iām chronically below range on my IGF-1 tests so I was able to get scripted. It did take some finagling on my part as nobody wants to script it, but I was able to pull it off.
If you wouldnt mind sharing, what was the process you went through to get it rxād?
Type of doc, how many confirmation labs, etc.
I have an endocrinologist for my primary hypog, and Iād like to have him add igf1 to the lab next time. Heās going to resist, but Iāll try.
Advice?
Ah gotcha. Feel like it was worth the effort?
Probably not at 2iu/day. I immediately noticed the deeper sleep but other than that havnāt noticed a ton of difference. For the cost/reward I would say ānoā. I think 4iu would be the minimum to see benefits physique wise.
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Gotcha, I may bump up to 4iu for 3-4 months and see. Iāve got a lot stockpiled. I donāt notice anything really at 2iu. Get hair cuts more often, thatās about it
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