Helping People in the Gym...

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[quote]force of one wrote:
Im probably going to get the “cool story bro” response over this but I have a real good example of why minding your own business is the best policy. And yeah it’s a true story.

The moral of the story folks is to mind your own business in the gym. You never know what kind of crazy nonsense your going to step in.[/quote]

You need to find out exactly what she’s saying about you. Don’t ask her directly, but find out from one of the guys she’s been talking to (preferably not ‘fist pounding guy’). She could be making up all sorts of bullshit about you.

You’re right not to care about what she thinks, but she is managing to draw others into her delusion, and that might not end well if a couple of these guys decide to club together and defend her honor in the hope that they’ll get some tail as a ‘thank you’ gift.

Destroying an innocent person’s reputation is unacceptable - you need to end her personal soap opera ASAP.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
force of one wrote:
A great story with a shitty ending.

For some reason I was sucked into your story, but your ending kinda blows.

Please, for the love of Christ go find out WTF she is on about and report back. Due I’m dying to hear whats up.[/quote]

X 2. The suspense is killing me.

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force of one:

Me thinks this lady believes she knows you, and not for a good reason. Dollars to donuts says you look like some dude that either fucked her over royally a long time ago or actually hurt her physically. This is assuming the poor gal doesn’t have some sort of organic mental disorder going on. Barring that, she’s pegged you for someone you aren’t.

Either way, better to confront it right away, while (ironically) trying not to be confrontational. Try something like “excuse me, I can’t help but notice you gestering in my direction. I get the impression you think we know each other, or I’ve done something to offend you.” If she responds with, “fuck you asshole? Pay you’re goddam child support.” Mystery solved. If she just freaks out and runs away or starts screaming her insane head off, still, mystery solved. She’s certifiable. Oh, and make sure there are witnesses.

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When I started lifting, I had one guy come up to me and say that I shouldn’t squat with my feet any more than shoulder width apart and that my toes should be pointed forward and obviously that I shouldn’t go below parallel. I briefly explained why I did go below parallel and he gave a look that said ‘that kid hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about’ and went off to do curls for an hour.

I’ve had people ask me for advice about squatting and deadlifting and even a few compliments. But I wouldn’t dare give people advice that wasn’t asked for. Especially women. You are obviously hitting on them if you were to offer advice. Most women don’t want advice from me anyway. I’m not exactly Brad Pitt and when I’m in the gym my face tends to be beetroot red and I do the single biggest insult to anybody in the gym with alarming regularity: I sweat.

Is that you at your gym in your avatar…? Cos if it is I think I may know why she reacts they way she does around you… :wink:

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[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
When I started lifting, I had one guy come up to me and say that I shouldn’t squat with my feet any more than shoulder width apart and that my toes should be pointed forward and obviously that I shouldn’t go below parallel. I briefly explained why I did go below parallel and he gave a look that said ‘that kid hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about’ and went off to do curls for an hour.

I’ve had people ask me for advice about squatting and deadlifting and even a few compliments. But I wouldn’t dare give people advice that wasn’t asked for. Especially women. You are obviously hitting on them if you were to offer advice. Most women don’t want advice from me anyway. I’m not exactly Brad Pitt and when I’m in the gym my face tends to be beetroot red and I do the single biggest insult to anybody in the gym with alarming regularity: I sweat.

force of one wrote:force of one’s cool story with terribly uncool ending here

Is that you at your gym in your avatar…? Cos if it is I think I may know why she reacts they way she does around you… ;)[/quote]

LMAO! Funny. not quite… that’s the fake muscle wearing actor from the uber stupid movie X Men 3.
Vinnie Jones. I keep that around, because fake or not I want those forearms lol

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[quote]roybot wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
force of one wrote:
A great story with a shitty ending.

For some reason I was sucked into your story, but your ending kinda blows.

Please, for the love of Christ go find out WTF she is on about and report back. Due I’m dying to hear whats up.

X 2. The suspense is killing me.

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Are you gents on crack today or what? This is obviously a very delicate situation. Think about the consequences of something like that.

This freak of nature spends her time at the gym these days running around staying away from me like I did something. Can you imgaine the reaction I would get if I actually approached her??
She might scream, and then there would be a bunch of meat heads thinking I did something to a pretty lady. And you guys know how it is. If a woman even says you did something, the cops and everybody else believes them whether you did it or not. It’s because we see horror stories of abused women on tv and in the news.

Or I could end up having to stomp one of those clowns she’s talking to, or maybe I would get MY ass stomped. Or worse of all I could lose my gym membership.

I think you can see my predicament. Logically talking to her would be a no go unless she cools off some and gets over it

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[quote]pwrlifter198 wrote:
force of one:

Me thinks this lady believes she knows you, and not for a good reason. Dollars to donuts says you look like some dude that either fucked her over royally a long time ago or actually hurt her physically. This is assuming the poor gal doesn’t have some sort of organic mental disorder going on. Barring that, she’s pegged you for someone you aren’t. Either way, better to confront it right away, while (ironically) trying not to be confrontational. Try something like “excuse me, I can’t help but notice you gestering in my direction. I get the impression you think we know each other, or I’ve done something to offend you.” If she responds with, “fuck you asshole? Pay you’re goddam child support.” Mystery solved. If she just freaks out and runs away or starts screaming her insane head off, still, mystery solved. She’s certifiable. Oh, and make sure there are witnesses.[/quote]

Good point. I have thought of that. That’s solid advice but I get the feeling the sitch is too explosive for that though. It could go very wrong very fast. And as I said I fear losing my gym membership. The gym, as crappy as it is, is my place of Zen and self torture LOL. And I am paid of for the fricking year. I gotta think about stuff like that before I make any kind of move.

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force of one, could you ask one of the guys she’s been whispering to?

As for the topic, (I workout at home so I probably shouldn’t comment) but I if I were in a gym and had terrible form I don’t think I would mind someone giving me a bit of help. That assumes the person giving the advice has a clue, and we’ve heard the stories of the moronic advice doled out. Maybe I’d get tired of guys constantly offering help though if that were the case.

At this point the only reason I would go to a gym would be to have interaction and possibly feedback from others but I don’t think I’d expect that at the Y or an average gym.

In other words, I don’t know. At the very least, make sure you know what you’re talking about before giving advice.

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[quote]force of one wrote:
pwrlifter198 wrote:
force of one:

Me thinks this lady believes she knows you, and not for a good reason. Dollars to donuts says you look like some dude that either fucked her over royally a long time ago or actually hurt her physically. This is assuming the poor gal doesn’t have some sort of organic mental disorder going on. Barring that, she’s pegged you for someone you aren’t. Either way, better to confront it right away, while (ironically) trying not to be confrontational. Try something like “excuse me, I can’t help but notice you gestering in my direction. I get the impression you think we know each other, or I’ve done something to offend you.” If she responds with, “fuck you asshole? Pay you’re goddam child support.” Mystery solved. If she just freaks out and runs away or starts screaming her insane head off, still, mystery solved. She’s certifiable. Oh, and make sure there are witnesses.

Good point. I have thought of that. That’s solid advice but I get the feeling the sitch is too explosive for that though. It could go very wrong very fast. And as I said I fear losing my gym membership. The gym, as crappy as it is, is my place of Zen and self torture LOL. And I am paid of for the fricking year. I gotta think about stuff like that before I make any kind of move.

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Like others have said, ask someone wtf she is saying. I would’ve said something a long time ago.

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[quote]debraD wrote:
but I if I were in a gym and had terrible form I don’t think I would mind someone giving me a bit of help.
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People with terrible form generally don’t know they have terrible form, don’t like to be told they have terrible form or probably just won’t listen anyway.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
force of one wrote:
A great story with a shitty ending.

For some reason I was sucked into your story, but your ending kinda blows.

Please, for the love of Christ go find out WTF she is on about and report back. Due I’m dying to hear whats up.

Yeah for real man, that was like… a movie with the worst ending ever. Find out!!![/quote]

Ending?? What ending? The shit’s not over mang for real.

I mean I start back tonight and I just KNOW the freako matic is going to be right back to her classic tricks.

I’ll tell you what I will do though. Tonight I will take my wife with me to the gym and have her snap a pic with her phone, so you can see who I am talking about. Or if the misses won’t do it I will try myself. The lady certainly doesn’t LOOK like a psychopath hahaha. I mean she’s clean looking and somwhat fit and well kept.

Meanwhile, I can give you a little more info. Another thing that’s wierd about this dame is that she almost never seems to work out. She spends 90% of her time just standing around talking to different guys and general socializing. I don’t get that. Also she’s shapely and all but she is also really skinny. Her legs and arms are rail thin.

And trip off this: I told a freind who is some kind of shrink about all this. (LCSW, or whatever) And she confirmed that flicted lady is indeed bonkers.
What my friend said is that this dame is probably so used to having men ogle her and check her out that when i failed to do so it made her angry. My friend’s exact words were that" I failed to meet some kind of delusion based expectation she has for men in the gym. And therefore the reaction I am getting is equally delusion based." My friend also said that she sounded like she was dangerously ill.
Whatever she is telling these ass clowns is apparently bad enough to make them cross lines with me. That in itself creates a certain volatility.

So anyway I guess all that isn’t as fun to read as hearing about a confrontation. Frankly I am a little surprised that anyone is interested, but since you are I will keep you guys posted. :slight_smile:

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99% of the time if someone comes up to me offering advice on nutrition, working out, technique exc… And they are actually well built and i see them in the gym often then i will listen to what they have to say. But usually if someone says like hey man try this and there 5’9 130…i usually just smile and continue what im doing.

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I say if you’re bigger and obviously more experienced then the person. Give advice. Yet if I was doing say heavy rows and a 130 lb newbie came up to me correcting my form. I’d laugh at him and I’m sure most around me would to.

I help out people once in a great while. I just make it no big deal and they’re usually friendly about it. Hell, I had a person correct me on machine flys the other week. I listened cause he had a bigger chest and obviously trained longer then me! To each their own I guess…

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[quote]force of one wrote:
PB Andy wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
force of one wrote:
A great story with a shitty ending.

For some reason I was sucked into your story, but your ending kinda blows.

Please, for the love of Christ go find out WTF she is on about and report back. Due I’m dying to hear whats up.

Yeah for real man, that was like… a movie with the worst ending ever. Find out!!!

Ending?? What ending? The shit’s not over mang for real.

I mean I start back tonight and I just KNOW the freako matic is going to be right back to her classic tricks.

I’ll tell you what I will do though. Tonight I will take my wife with me to the gym and have her snap a pic with her phone, so you can see who I am talking about. Or if the misses won’t do it I will try myself. The lady certainly doesn’t LOOK like a psychopath hahaha. I mean she’s clean looking and somwhat fit and well kept.

Meanwhile, I can give you a little more info. Another thing that’s wierd about this dame is that she almost never seems to work out. She spends 90% of her time just standing around talking to different guys and general socializing. I don’t get that. Also she’s shapely and all but she is also really skinny. Her legs and arms are rail thin.

And trip off this: I told a freind who is some kind of shrink about all this. (LCSW, or whatever) And she confirmed that flicted lady is indeed bonkers.
What my friend said is that this dame is probably so used to having men ogle her and check her out that when i failed to do so it made her angry. My friend’s exact words were that" I failed to meet some kind of delusion based expectation she has for men in the gym. And therefore the reaction I am getting is equally delusion based." My friend also said that she sounded like she was dangerously ill.
Whatever she is telling these ass clowns is apparently bad enough to make them cross lines with me. That in itself creates a certain volatility.

So anyway I guess all that isn’t as fun to read as hearing about a confrontation. Frankly I am a little surprised that anyone is interested, but since you are I will keep you guys posted. :slight_smile:
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I honestly wouldn’t give a shit and would walk right up to her ass and be like “Do you have a problem with me? Either tell me right now or leave me the hell alone”. Bet that would shut her up right away.

If she tells the management anything. What is she going to tell them? He doesn’t “acknowledge me”. Screw that cunt.

To have a grown woman bother or make up shit about you at a place you PAYED for also is ludicrous.

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[quote]force of one wrote:

Are you gents on crack today or what? This is obviously a very delicate situation. Think about the consequences of something like that.

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It is a delicate situation. That’s why I told you to find out exactly what it is you’re supposed to have done to her, and nip it in the bud. If you think I haven’t thought about the consequences of your situation, then you must’ve missed my first post on this thread:
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"You need to find out exactly what she’s saying about you. Don’t ask her directly, but find out from one of the guys she’s been talking to (preferably not ‘fist pounding guy’). She could be making up all sorts of bullshit about you.

You’re right not to care about what she thinks, but she is managing to draw others into her delusion, and that might not end well if a couple of these guys decide to club together and defend her honor in the hope that they’ll get some tail as a ‘thank you’ gift.

Destroying an innocent person’s reputation is unacceptable - you need to end her personal soap opera ASAP. "[/i]

Worst thing you can possibly do is ignore her rumor-mongering. If it’s as bad as it seems to be, it will come back to haunt you.

Then again, if you won’t let us in on the details, I might just be inclined to believe her version of events. j/k

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I give advice when people ask. Else, I am busy training, and spotting my girlfriend.

Force of one:
Reminds me of some of the people we have at the mental hospital I work at. She is clearly ill…

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During a typical workout, I will:

  1. Stomp around the gym staring at the weight I’m getting ready to lift and then BAM attack the weight for my set and then stomp around until the next set.

  2. Sometimes I will clap for myself before and after each set.

  3. I will call the weight a “bitch, fucking bitch, pussy bitch” before lifting it (not real loud, but I could be overheard).

  4. I get real close to throwing up a lot and belch quite a lot.

  5. I will say ‘big back big back’ to myself as I am approaching the weight if I’m rowing, or ‘big legs big legs’ if I’m squatting, etc., also, ‘c’mon…c’mon…fucking punk’

  6. I will collapse on the floor if there’s no place to sit near where I’m working my legs.

Basically, I look like a complete maniac, idiot, douche, so anyone that would take advice from me would be crazier than the lady Force of One is dealing with.

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[quote]Csar wrote:
Bodyguard wrote:
I swear youd think I asked the woman to perform a sex act on me she got up from the machine screaming and yelling sqquirted me with her water bottle asked the proverbial so what you think Im stupid type of thing and damn near hit me she also picked up on my pumped up self and started throwing steroid related epitaths around etc.

Mad HORSE wrote:
Last time I tried to help a girl out, she freaked the hell out like I was a rapist. Said something to the effect of creepy, weird guy…something. I couldn’t argue, I remember that.

Those aren’t normal reactions.
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No shit? Those aren’t? C’mon man that is the point you never know what youre gonna get when your good intentions drive you to doll out unsolicited advice.

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If someone asks, give it, otherwise you can get some really stupid reactions, as noted throughout this post. At some of the places I have trained the PTs can get real pissy as well.

That being said, I get a fair amount of questions, but I would say the majority of people kindly leave me alone until I am doing my assessory work. Or at least getting a drink from the fountain.

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[quote]sen say wrote:
During a typical workout, I will:

  1. Stomp around the gym staring at the weight I’m getting ready to lift and then BAM attack the weight for my set and then stomp around until the next set.

  2. Sometimes I will clap for myself before and after each set.

  3. I will call the weight a “bitch, fucking bitch, pussy bitch” before lifting it (not real loud, but I could be overheard).

  4. I get real close to throwing up a lot and belch quite a lot.

  5. I will say ‘big back big back’ to myself as I am approaching the weight if I’m rowing, or ‘big legs big legs’ if I’m squatting, etc., also, ‘c’mon…c’mon…fucking punk’

  6. I will collapse on the floor if there’s no place to sit near where I’m working my legs.

Basically, I look like a complete maniac, idiot, douche, so anyone that would take advice from me would be crazier than the lady Force of One is dealing with.[/quote]

That is some funny shit Sen Say. The only thing funnier is if somebody asks you for a spot on the bench and then makes you deadlift the weight and then asks you for another spot 30 seconds later. The appropriate response at that time is to stand over their writhing body, scream your everliving lungs out at them (“get the weight up you fucking pussy,” or "come on man, you can fucking lift it, don’t let that bitch weight get the better of you.) Of course, once said douche passes out, gingerly lift the weight off them like it weighed ten pounds, re-rack it for them, slap them on the back and tell them “great set man.”

As for offering unsolicited advice, I don’t unless asked or, as mentioned by other posters, the lifter is a danger to themselves or others or a piece of equipment I really like. I get asked questions often enough. Usually it’s “hey man what are those green rubber bands for?” or “what does that do?” when I’m doing something uncommon like lock-outs or bands.

I don’t know if my hesitation to offer advice is due to an anticipated batshit crazy response like the one Force received, or if it’s the gag reflex I sometimes experience when I see some spandex muscle-shirt clad numb-nuts offering unsolicited advice to equally numb-nuts spandex midrift clad vixen who, while never taking her eyes off the floor-to-eiling mirrors that adorn her meatlocker of a gym, acts offended that someone noticed her burgeoning, augmented cleavage heaving from her sports bra. There I said it, don’t hate me.