HeavyThrower Making You Leaner and Bigger

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Is HT married to a hot Latin woman? Aren’t they great cooks? :slight_smile:
If her schedule is less hectic than yours, maybe she can boil your eggs for you?
Just a thought.[/quote]

haha, yes she IS. she is a great cook and is a a great help in prepping gmy meals, she takes good care of her Big Papi, as she calls me.

like i said, the prepping is not the problem, i just cant seem to stuff it down, i dont know if it is fatigue, stress, or if as i mentioned the extreme weight cut i just finished prior to starting this somehow did something funky to my metabolism.

my wife has the fridge full of white rice, which she preps with cilantro and lime, mmmmmm…

lean steak grilled and spiced with chimichuri, mmmmmmm…

and I LOVE the eggs scrambled in coconut oil, yumo!

i just have lost my appetite.

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
I am also a nurse, I work on the day shift (7a-7p) at New York Presbyterian on the cardiac surgery stepdown unit. Our surgeons average 8-10 cases a day, so we usually get between 5-10 admissions on my time in addition to the same number of discharges. Additionally, we do the most heart and solid organ transplants in the country IIRC, and we take the sickest patients that nobody else will in the area. So, we are very busy.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason HT cannot make his breakfast or even all of his meals the night before his next shift. Granted, I don’t work 5-6 shifts a week, but I can cook a week’s worth of food in under an hour (including prep) while running laundry at the same time. Now that I have a grill, I can probably cook even more food simultaneously after getting the timing down.

If he really doesn’t have the time to boil eggs every day, he can boil a few dozen at once on his day off and throw them in the fridge. Hell, he could boil eggs while he takes a shower, or while he eats a meal, or takes a dump… it isn’t that hard.

I see that he’s married, I’m not sure why his wife doesn’t help with meal prep here if it’s such a problem. If she is complaining about cooking “so much” every day, then get a slow cooker, throw a bunch of shit in there, set it and forget it.

HT, have you ever had your thyroid hormone levels checked? On 200mg of t cyp a week and 2 IU of GH/day, you should be getting leaner by accident IMO.[/quote]

hey to a fellow allied health professional! \

i have worked cardiac stepdown, cvicu, nticu, nicu, ticu. just about every kink of icu ecept burn. and none of those jobs had me hustling and on my feet RUNNING as much a ED.

i am not exaggerating, sometimes i go nearly 8 hours before i take my first piss break.

i have to eat on the run, and i usually do not take breaks, even though contract we are allowed 30 minutes during a 12 hour shift.

Z’s diet called for 2 shakes as my at work meals, and that works great, i have not missed any of them, though i remember not finishing the entire shake a couple of times.

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Is HT married to a hot Latin woman? Aren’t they great cooks? :slight_smile:
If her schedule is less hectic than yours, maybe she can boil your eggs for you?
Just a thought.[/quote]

haha, yes she IS. she is a great cook and is a a great help in prepping gmy meals, she takes good care of her Big Papi, as she calls me.

like i said, the prepping is not the problem, i just cant seem to stuff it down, i dont know if it is fatigue, stress, or if as i mentioned the extreme weight cut i just finished prior to starting this somehow did something funky to my metabolism.

my wife has the fridge full of white rice, which she preps with cilantro and lime, mmmmmm…

lean steak grilled and spiced with chimichuri, mmmmmmm…

and I LOVE the eggs scrambled in coconut oil, yumo!

i just have lost my appetite. [/quote]
I hear that.
Are there any supplements out there that increase appetite? Besides marijuana lol

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
…Well this thread just got interesting

grabs popcorn[/quote]

nah, nothing to see here, things will get nicer, or i just wont play anymore. im too old for any negative stuff.

i am learning a lot though, and am receiving lots of positive encouragement, so i hope i can keep doing it.

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
I am also a nurse, I work on the day shift (7a-7p) at New York Presbyterian on the cardiac surgery stepdown unit. Our surgeons average 8-10 cases a day, so we usually get between 5-10 admissions on my time in addition to the same number of discharges. Additionally, we do the most heart and solid organ transplants in the country IIRC, and we take the sickest patients that nobody else will in the area. So, we are very busy.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason HT cannot make his breakfast or even all of his meals the night before his next shift. Granted, I don’t work 5-6 shifts a week, but I can cook a week’s worth of food in under an hour (including prep) while running laundry at the same time. Now that I have a grill, I can probably cook even more food simultaneously after getting the timing down.

If he really doesn’t have the time to boil eggs every day, he can boil a few dozen at once on his day off and throw them in the fridge. Hell, he could boil eggs while he takes a shower, or while he eats a meal, or takes a dump… it isn’t that hard.

I see that he’s married, I’m not sure why his wife doesn’t help with meal prep here if it’s such a problem. If she is complaining about cooking “so much” every day, then get a slow cooker, throw a bunch of shit in there, set it and forget it.

HT, have you ever had your thyroid hormone levels checked? On 200mg of t cyp a week and 2 IU of GH/day, you should be getting leaner by accident IMO.[/quote]

hey to a fellow allied health professional! \

i have worked cardiac stepdown, cvicu, nticu, nicu, ticu. just about every kink of icu ecept burn. and none of those jobs had me hustling and on my feet RUNNING as much a ED.

i am not exaggerating, sometimes i go nearly 8 hours before i take my first piss break.

i have to eat on the run, and i usually do not take breaks, even though contract we are allowed 30 minutes during a 12 hour shift.

Z’s diet called for 2 shakes as my at work meals, and that works great, i have not missed any of them, though i remember not finishing the entire shake a couple of times.
[/quote]
Hard to take a 30 min break when you have gun shots and people on dopamine and one room with a psycho that has OD’d on valium

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

This being the first time he’s ever dieted down is exactly why excuses like “I don’t have time to boil eggs once a week” shouldn’t be acceptable. This is hard because it’s something he’s never done before.

This isn’t about someone being a stand-up guy. I know plenty of great people who will make all sorts of excuses for why they can’t eat better. This isn’t a matter of morality or good people vs. bad people, this is a matter of wanting something badly enought to remove the word “can’t” from the vocabulary and find a way to get it done.

Here’s a newsflash: there are a ton of bodybuilders out there that do what it takes to get shredded and stay lean, and they do it on a regular basis. 99.9% of them aren’t IFBB professionals and have other obligations. I don’t know where you’re from, USMCCDS, but you should go to the next NPC show in your area. Everyone on stage there is going to be a guy with a job, a wife or a girlfriend, and possibly a kid. Everyone on stage there is going to the sort of lean that HT wants to be, and all of them will have managed to do it in spite of all of the other obligations in their lives.

Like I said, I like HT, too. He’s a good guy. I’m providing him a service right now that I would normally charge someone about $100/month for totaly free, I wouldn’t do that if I didn’t respect the dude. Part of what comes with respect is the willingness to call someone on their own bullshit when they’re about to short change themselves.[/quote]

This is the last post I will make because the thread is a good one. You and ZRAW are obviously providing a service here that is above and beyond just helping someone out.

That said, I have often found encouragement is better than discouragement. Honey vs. vinager type of thing. To say someone is just plain lazy because they didn’t pre-cook their meals is harsh. From these forums anyone can see HeavyThrower is anything but lazy. Being that he has never dieted down these types of stumbles should be expected. Did you or ZRAW ever stumble on your diets? Did Stu or CT or anyone else for that matter ever take 2 steps forward 1 step back? The guy works is ass off helping people all day and from what I can gather is working his ass off to get lean. Can he find time to boil eggs, sure he can. Does he need to be called lazy because he didn’t, no. That’s all I’m saying.

Good for all these other bodybuilders working and getting shredded, that is their PASSION. This is a first step for HeavyThrower. There is a huge difference. Unless I missed something he isn’t dieting down to walk on stage, it’s for his health and I suppose for fun.

Lastly, I’m getting pretty sick of seeing people write stuff like, “I’d normal charge $100 dollars for my services,” either volunteer your time or don’t. Can you see how frustrating it is to read that? It’s like you want to help, but you also want it known that your valuable. I get it your volunteering a service for free, I mean this sincerely, good on you, it’s awesome truly. You just don’t need to remind us every freakin day.

Anyway, I still thing these threads are great. You, Zraw, etc… are stand up guys and the forum needs guys like you. I’d just hate to see a guy like HeavyThrower get discouraged this early on because of word choice or accusations.

Like I said even if you respond, this is the last I’ll post. Please keep up the good work.

-Chris [/quote]

thanks man, very well said. and you are right, i have no plans of being contest/stage ready, this is a health and fun thing, and a personal challenge.

i have been big, i have been strong, i have been an athlete, can i know be in shape?

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
I am also a nurse, I work on the day shift (7a-7p) at New York Presbyterian on the cardiac surgery stepdown unit. Our surgeons average 8-10 cases a day, so we usually get between 5-10 admissions on my time in addition to the same number of discharges. Additionally, we do the most heart and solid organ transplants in the country IIRC, and we take the sickest patients that nobody else will in the area. So, we are very busy.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason HT cannot make his breakfast or even all of his meals the night before his next shift. Granted, I don’t work 5-6 shifts a week, but I can cook a week’s worth of food in under an hour (including prep) while running laundry at the same time. Now that I have a grill, I can probably cook even more food simultaneously after getting the timing down.

If he really doesn’t have the time to boil eggs every day, he can boil a few dozen at once on his day off and throw them in the fridge. Hell, he could boil eggs while he takes a shower, or while he eats a meal, or takes a dump… it isn’t that hard.

I see that he’s married, I’m not sure why his wife doesn’t help with meal prep here if it’s such a problem. If she is complaining about cooking “so much” every day, then get a slow cooker, throw a bunch of shit in there, set it and forget it.

HT, have you ever had your thyroid hormone levels checked? On 200mg of t cyp a week and 2 IU of GH/day, you should be getting leaner by accident IMO.[/quote]

hey to a fellow allied health professional! \

i have worked cardiac stepdown, cvicu, nticu, nicu, ticu. just about every kink of icu ecept burn. and none of those jobs had me hustling and on my feet RUNNING as much a ED.

i am not exaggerating, sometimes i go nearly 8 hours before i take my first piss break.

i have to eat on the run, and i usually do not take breaks, even though contract we are allowed 30 minutes during a 12 hour shift.

Z’s diet called for 2 shakes as my at work meals, and that works great, i have not missed any of them, though i remember not finishing the entire shake a couple of times.
[/quote]
Hard to take a 30 min break when you have gun shots and people on dopamine and one room with a psycho that has OD’d on valium [/quote]

or you are trying to establish an I-O access on a coding baby, when the 6 foot 200lbs homeless guy who is tripping on bath salts and meth the cops dumped on you busts into your room with screaming and flailing around, spraying everyone with the still connected but tubing tore in half IV in his arm with hepatitis infected blood,o

sigh, good times.

anyhoo, if Z and Strong are still interested in helping me, i would like to hear their opinions on whats up with my appetite, (213 lbs yesterday, thats 7lbs down in 5 days)

and any suggestions on low body training while my groin is healing up, i would like to hear them.

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
I am also a nurse, I work on the day shift (7a-7p) at New York Presbyterian on the cardiac surgery stepdown unit. Our surgeons average 8-10 cases a day, so we usually get between 5-10 admissions on my time in addition to the same number of discharges. Additionally, we do the most heart and solid organ transplants in the country IIRC, and we take the sickest patients that nobody else will in the area. So, we are very busy.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason HT cannot make his breakfast or even all of his meals the night before his next shift. Granted, I don’t work 5-6 shifts a week, but I can cook a week’s worth of food in under an hour (including prep) while running laundry at the same time. Now that I have a grill, I can probably cook even more food simultaneously after getting the timing down.

If he really doesn’t have the time to boil eggs every day, he can boil a few dozen at once on his day off and throw them in the fridge. Hell, he could boil eggs while he takes a shower, or while he eats a meal, or takes a dump… it isn’t that hard.

I see that he’s married, I’m not sure why his wife doesn’t help with meal prep here if it’s such a problem. If she is complaining about cooking “so much” every day, then get a slow cooker, throw a bunch of shit in there, set it and forget it.

HT, have you ever had your thyroid hormone levels checked? On 200mg of t cyp a week and 2 IU of GH/day, you should be getting leaner by accident IMO.[/quote]

hey to a fellow allied health professional! \

i have worked cardiac stepdown, cvicu, nticu, nicu, ticu. just about every kink of icu ecept burn. and none of those jobs had me hustling and on my feet RUNNING as much a ED.

i am not exaggerating, sometimes i go nearly 8 hours before i take my first piss break.

i have to eat on the run, and i usually do not take breaks, even though contract we are allowed 30 minutes during a 12 hour shift.

Z’s diet called for 2 shakes as my at work meals, and that works great, i have not missed any of them, though i remember not finishing the entire shake a couple of times.
[/quote]
Hard to take a 30 min break when you have gun shots and people on dopamine and one room with a psycho that has OD’d on valium [/quote]

or you are trying to establish an I-O access on a coding baby, when the 6 foot 200lbs homeless guy who is tripping on bath salts and meth the cops dumped on you busts into your room with screaming and flailing around, spraying everyone with the still connected but tubing tore in half IV in his arm with hepatitis infected blood,o

sigh, good times.
[/quote]
These story’s were always great for party’s HT, but honestly I dont miss them my friend. Thank you for your service and carrying the torch. When you are ready to semi-retire, I will find a job for you.


my food for the week. all the containers to the left are the steak veggies and rice my lovely wife cooked for me.

my mami chula knows how to take care of her papi.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
I am also a nurse, I work on the day shift (7a-7p) at New York Presbyterian on the cardiac surgery stepdown unit. Our surgeons average 8-10 cases a day, so we usually get between 5-10 admissions on my time in addition to the same number of discharges. Additionally, we do the most heart and solid organ transplants in the country IIRC, and we take the sickest patients that nobody else will in the area. So, we are very busy.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason HT cannot make his breakfast or even all of his meals the night before his next shift. Granted, I don’t work 5-6 shifts a week, but I can cook a week’s worth of food in under an hour (including prep) while running laundry at the same time. Now that I have a grill, I can probably cook even more food simultaneously after getting the timing down.

If he really doesn’t have the time to boil eggs every day, he can boil a few dozen at once on his day off and throw them in the fridge. Hell, he could boil eggs while he takes a shower, or while he eats a meal, or takes a dump… it isn’t that hard.

I see that he’s married, I’m not sure why his wife doesn’t help with meal prep here if it’s such a problem. If she is complaining about cooking “so much” every day, then get a slow cooker, throw a bunch of shit in there, set it and forget it.

HT, have you ever had your thyroid hormone levels checked? On 200mg of t cyp a week and 2 IU of GH/day, you should be getting leaner by accident IMO.[/quote]

hey to a fellow allied health professional! \

i have worked cardiac stepdown, cvicu, nticu, nicu, ticu. just about every kink of icu ecept burn. and none of those jobs had me hustling and on my feet RUNNING as much a ED.

i am not exaggerating, sometimes i go nearly 8 hours before i take my first piss break.

i have to eat on the run, and i usually do not take breaks, even though contract we are allowed 30 minutes during a 12 hour shift.

Z’s diet called for 2 shakes as my at work meals, and that works great, i have not missed any of them, though i remember not finishing the entire shake a couple of times.
[/quote]
Hard to take a 30 min break when you have gun shots and people on dopamine and one room with a psycho that has OD’d on valium [/quote]

or you are trying to establish an I-O access on a coding baby, when the 6 foot 200lbs homeless guy who is tripping on bath salts and meth the cops dumped on you busts into your room with screaming and flailing around, spraying everyone with the still connected but tubing tore in half IV in his arm with hepatitis infected blood,o

sigh, good times.
[/quote]
These story’s were always great for party’s HT, but honestly I dont miss them my friend. Thank you for your service and carrying the torch. When you are ready to semi-retire, I will find a job for you.[/quote]

be careful, i may hit you up for that one day. sometimes i wonder if i should just do vascular access full time (piccs, ios etc.)

[quote]super saiyan wrote:
HT, keep battling brother. You have a lot of people cheering your on.[/quote]

thanks!

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
I am also a nurse, I work on the day shift (7a-7p) at New York Presbyterian on the cardiac surgery stepdown unit. Our surgeons average 8-10 cases a day, so we usually get between 5-10 admissions on my time in addition to the same number of discharges. Additionally, we do the most heart and solid organ transplants in the country IIRC, and we take the sickest patients that nobody else will in the area. So, we are very busy.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason HT cannot make his breakfast or even all of his meals the night before his next shift. Granted, I don’t work 5-6 shifts a week, but I can cook a week’s worth of food in under an hour (including prep) while running laundry at the same time. Now that I have a grill, I can probably cook even more food simultaneously after getting the timing down.

If he really doesn’t have the time to boil eggs every day, he can boil a few dozen at once on his day off and throw them in the fridge. Hell, he could boil eggs while he takes a shower, or while he eats a meal, or takes a dump… it isn’t that hard.

I see that he’s married, I’m not sure why his wife doesn’t help with meal prep here if it’s such a problem. If she is complaining about cooking “so much” every day, then get a slow cooker, throw a bunch of shit in there, set it and forget it.

HT, have you ever had your thyroid hormone levels checked? On 200mg of t cyp a week and 2 IU of GH/day, you should be getting leaner by accident IMO.[/quote]

hey to a fellow allied health professional! \

i have worked cardiac stepdown, cvicu, nticu, nicu, ticu. just about every kink of icu ecept burn. and none of those jobs had me hustling and on my feet RUNNING as much a ED.

i am not exaggerating, sometimes i go nearly 8 hours before i take my first piss break.

i have to eat on the run, and i usually do not take breaks, even though contract we are allowed 30 minutes during a 12 hour shift.

Z’s diet called for 2 shakes as my at work meals, and that works great, i have not missed any of them, though i remember not finishing the entire shake a couple of times.
[/quote]
Hard to take a 30 min break when you have gun shots and people on dopamine and one room with a psycho that has OD’d on valium [/quote]

or you are trying to establish an I-O access on a coding baby, when the 6 foot 200lbs homeless guy who is tripping on bath salts and meth the cops dumped on you busts into your room with screaming and flailing around, spraying everyone with the still connected but tubing tore in half IV in his arm with hepatitis infected blood,o

sigh, good times.
[/quote]
These story’s were always great for party’s HT, but honestly I dont miss them my friend. Thank you for your service and carrying the torch. When you are ready to semi-retire, I will find a job for you.[/quote]

be careful, i may hit you up for that one day. sometimes i wonder if i should just do vascular access full time (piccs, ios etc.)
[/quote]
I offered it for the realz my friend, I dont have any work in Cali yet. But I will some day.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

This being the first time he’s ever dieted down is exactly why excuses like “I don’t have time to boil eggs once a week” shouldn’t be acceptable. This is hard because it’s something he’s never done before.

This isn’t about someone being a stand-up guy. I know plenty of great people who will make all sorts of excuses for why they can’t eat better. This isn’t a matter of morality or good people vs. bad people, this is a matter of wanting something badly enought to remove the word “can’t” from the vocabulary and find a way to get it done.

Here’s a newsflash: there are a ton of bodybuilders out there that do what it takes to get shredded and stay lean, and they do it on a regular basis. 99.9% of them aren’t IFBB professionals and have other obligations. I don’t know where you’re from, USMCCDS, but you should go to the next NPC show in your area. Everyone on stage there is going to be a guy with a job, a wife or a girlfriend, and possibly a kid. Everyone on stage there is going to the sort of lean that HT wants to be, and all of them will have managed to do it in spite of all of the other obligations in their lives.

Like I said, I like HT, too. He’s a good guy. I’m providing him a service right now that I would normally charge someone about $100/month for totaly free, I wouldn’t do that if I didn’t respect the dude. Part of what comes with respect is the willingness to call someone on their own bullshit when they’re about to short change themselves.[/quote]

This is the last post I will make because the thread is a good one. You and ZRAW are obviously providing a service here that is above and beyond just helping someone out.

That said, I have often found encouragement is better than discouragement. Honey vs. vinager type of thing. To say someone is just plain lazy because they didn’t pre-cook their meals is harsh. From these forums anyone can see HeavyThrower is anything but lazy. Being that he has never dieted down these types of stumbles should be expected. Did you or ZRAW ever stumble on your diets? Did Stu or CT or anyone else for that matter ever take 2 steps forward 1 step back? The guy works is ass off helping people all day and from what I can gather is working his ass off to get lean. Can he find time to boil eggs, sure he can. Does he need to be called lazy because he didn’t, no. That’s all I’m saying.

Good for all these other bodybuilders working and getting shredded, that is their PASSION. This is a first step for HeavyThrower. There is a huge difference. Unless I missed something he isn’t dieting down to walk on stage, it’s for his health and I suppose for fun.

Lastly, I’m getting pretty sick of seeing people write stuff like, “I’d normal charge $100 dollars for my services,” either volunteer your time or don’t. Can you see how frustrating it is to read that? It’s like you want to help, but you also want it known that your valuable. I get it your volunteering a service for free, I mean this sincerely, good on you, it’s awesome truly. You just don’t need to remind us every freakin day.

Anyway, I still thing these threads are great. You, Zraw, etc… are stand up guys and the forum needs guys like you. I’d just hate to see a guy like HeavyThrower get discouraged this early on because of word choice or accusations.

Like I said even if you respond, this is the last I’ll post. Please keep up the good work.

-Chris [/quote]

Very good post.

Sucks about your appetite big man, sucks even more that people can’t read what you originally wrote and then move on to take pot shots.

When you are shredded and 'mirin yourself in the mirror you will look back and see how inconsequential this small period will be, just one speed bump.

Keep at it and keep moving forward :slight_smile:

Damn HT, that is a hectic schedule. I can’t even imagine trying to fit in diet and training being that busy. That is dedication right there. Looking forward to see how things are progressing.

holy shit rattler, is your avatar a recent pic? you are one LEAN dude. what do you weight right now, how tall?

oh, and sorry if i missed it, but did you (Z) want measurements too, like the other guys?

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
holy shit rattler, is your avatar a recent pic? you are one LEAN dude. what do you weight right now, how tall?
[/quote]

I’m hovering at 160lbs at 6 foot, aint big :confused:

That’s why you gotta get lean, you got the swoleness already in the bag!

Could the hunger problems be caused by metabolism problems?

Like since you were horrendously strict with calories and nutrients before starting your metabolism got fucked, this is all conjecture obviously and I aint even the coach of this thread or experienced/knowledgable for most to care haha but if anything i’m saying has any basing in reality and truth it might be a good idea for you just to go insane with food for one day, literally just all you want and as much as you can to get kickstarted again?

Again, don’t flame me if my ideas are bro science/retarded/unfounded just typing thoughts as they come

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
holy shit rattler, is your avatar a recent pic? you are one LEAN dude. what do you weight right now, how tall?
[/quote]

I’m hovering at 160lbs at 6 foot, aint big :confused:

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Well, you’re looking damn impressive!