Heavy Squats and Plyos

is it okay to do heavy squatting in the morning and pylometric later in the afternoon?would that be all wrong?

The other way around would be better.

[quote]grossen wrote:
is it okay to do heavy squatting in the morning and pylometric later in the afternoon?would that be all wrong?[/quote]

Depends, are you a morning person or an afternoon person? Do the plyos when you’re most awake. Just don’t destroy yourself on squats in the morning if they end up first.

I’ve always understood that you want to do the most explosive, dynamic activity (plyos) first, because you need the greatest muscle flexibility and neural activation to safely do them. Squating first may tighten up your muscles too much and may cause problems with plyos without full recovery to good muscle flexibility.

It may not result in an acute injury, but it might be the cause of a longer term, overuse kind of injury doing plyos.

I don’t know any firm evidence to back that up other than it’s what my Div.I track coach told me about his workout structure for us. Our workouts always consisted of plyos, jumping, or sprinting first in the workout, followed by any Olympic lifts, and then any other kind of controlled-speed weight training (like squats) last.

So you can see the order of excercise went from most dynamic excercise to the slowest and most controlled excercise.

do both in the same workout

[quote]GermanPower wrote:
do both in the same workout [/quote]

Which one first?

[quote]X-Factor wrote:
GermanPower wrote:
do both in the same workout

Which one first?[/quote]

plyos

Plyometrics first. The whole point of them is to move as explosively as possible. If you are fatigued, I believe you negate the main benefit of those exercises by not moving as quickly as you otherwise could if you were fresh.

-MAtt

That would be complex training, wouldn’t it?..Weights + plyo’s in a workout.

am i the only person here that supersetting heavy squats with plyometrics works for…?

[quote]mr popular wrote:
am i the only person here that supersetting heavy squats with plyometrics works for…?[/quote]

Barry Ross? I’m not sure if I would call it a superset, but pretty close.

Plyos always done first. Like the others said, your CNS should be freshest for this type of work and heavy squatting would defeat the purpose. Plus you’re going to have tired legs and then you’re just not getting the benefit you would’ve gotten had you done them prior.

I have heard of people doing squats and plyos in a workout though, i.e. set of squats followed by a set of 5 altitude landings. Personally though, I would do all plyometric work first, then move on to your weight work at the end of a session. Hope that helps.

If you are an athlete, on a typical high-intensity day, you would do your speed work first, followed by plyos, then weight work.