If we are to argue causation here I would lean more to this than the performance anxiety.
As @Robroy said before a one off here and there yeah but when it’s consistent and no hope insight its beyond mental.
Sometimes my libido fluctuates and I really want but the erections are just not there and it was never this bad pre TRT.
For example the lady I am recently having things with we got a special relationship and there is no pressure, she knows I am going through it and is fine with just oral. Even when she stops by to blow me, I am on daily cialis, and clearly I know that’s all we are going to do and nothing else is expected…. Even during the BJ my erection is sub par. Sorry that goes beyond “performance anxiety” and this problem simply didn’t exist before TRT.
This is way personal but I feel like I have to get this out there for all the lost souls that come looking for answers and are just told it’s in their head and everyone else is effing like rabbits while on high dose of T.
Maybe I am a few years away from heart failure or something who knows?
The problems I have (had when not on this regimen lol) is:
If im actually horny, my erection is super strong and full.
HOWEVER, the problem is simply … Im not “horny”, I do not feel that insane dopamine rush of hornyness and IF I do - when I do, which is rare - It is there in the very beginning (IE foreplay etc) but it quickly goes away. And when the hornyness goes away … naturally, so does the erections.
I had some luck with cialis/viagra. However, given the fact hornyness is freaking neccesary for these 2 to work well, they are kinda hit and miss. Yeah, I dont need to be “As horny” for them to work, but it still requires some hornyness.
Its that burning desire, sexual eroticism, the primal animalistic drive that is just “not there” …
and again, even when it was there, in the very beginning, its like it just fucking dissapeared during or even before the act.
Super frustrating.
It is exactly how I felt when I was natural with highish T back in my late teens/early 20s and I took some PWO stimulants (DMAA LOL) or 5HTP shit.
I remember I used to jerk off to porn basically every night. However, If I had taken that shit during for my work out … I just wasnt in the mood at all, I couldnt care less and if i forced it, it quickly just died cause i didnt give a fuck.
dunno when im even gonna come off, i wanna enjoy this for a while now lolol
my plan is prob to try get some estrogen patches myself, difficult long term tho.
Or maybe even try add a small small dose of npp to my trt. Try like 20mg to see what happends, when 30, then 40 etc.
Anyway, if it all fails, ima just fucking go back on 1g test with dbol for a while again. On 1g test my bloods are great. On dbol I havent checked yet, my lipids are probably half-shit buuut it is what it is!
I spoke to defy about taking estrogen but it was a no go as the NP chick was even confused at what the hell for and what I was getting at so I at least asked for HCG.
HCG will arrive next week. I know on higher dose TRT and HCG was a no go for me as well, so other option is more HCG less test.
The problem seems to be the balance of hormones here.
If you add HCG … yeah, estrogen will prob rise, but so will testosterone, ofcourse. The question is if the rise in estrogen will be so much more (relatively speaking) to testosterone resulting in a better ratio, i dunno, hit or miss.
Its funny how some people just find the balance naturally or immidately, just inject some test and they good to go.
Then we have outliers like us who have to increase the dose, decrease the dose, spread it out more, spread it out less, add shit like dbol, estrogen patches, npp, up the dose to 1g lmfaooo
Oh well u do what u gotta do! I rather live with a great cock til im 65 than a dead one til 80!
I also know what you mean about that half way missing libido. It’s the same I remember that desperate crawling out of my skin wanting to devour the girl libido, vs now that even on a better day I am wanting if it doesn’t I work I am just like “meh” no blue balls no let down nothing.
I too had a marked decrease in libido and erectile strength after starting TRT, and even with my levels in the shitter before I never pushed rope once. It became more frequent and then my mind got involved with performance anxiety issues, snowball effect for sure.
It took some time and a ton of reading but i was able to perfect a doseage and frequency that worked for ME. Morning wood, libido, errections like when I was 20!
As long as I stick to my routine and keep myself level I’m all set. If I deviate much I’ll fall out of my sweet spot and lose the morning wood and random errections throughout the day.
Too many in between tweaks to remember, but I’ll give you the broad strokes and my surmised conclusion. Every person responds differently to techniques.
Doc rx’d test cyp 200mg every 10 days, had negative effects mimicking reported symptoms of high e2 levels.
Bloodwork: normal ranges for all measured.
Increased dose to 200mg every 7 days, the same negative symptoms became more intense.
Reported negative observations, was told its not possible.
Bloodwork: within range
Experimented a bit. More frequency of injections, lower amounts of testosterone doseage per week, felt even better.
Finally:
0.2ml of test cyp 200mg/ml subq into stomach every three days.
The more steady my test level is, the better I feel.
I went by how I felt and continued tweaking it until I felt the best.
The dosing/injection schedule that I am currently using I finalized around a year ago. I have been on TRT for a bit over 7 years total. The positives have outweighed the negative for the entire time but I would not accept that the process could’ve be improved.
So yes, sub q into the belly. I have not tried any other areas subq, I just started and stuck with it.
That was my last draw a few months ago. I do remember I had missed a dose in the effective timeframe for that draw. Doesn’t look that impressive right?
To mention before I was placed on TRT my TT was sub 100
It does not look that impressive as you said but i seriously think some of us are not meant to have insane levels past a certain point. What is your physique like? Notice huge gym benefits even with a dose that low?
I am now 44 and i have not worked out in a few years, lifestyle and work are sedentary.
Normal muscle build, trim(ish), and my strength is normal.
Prior to optimizating my doseage I was 20+ pounds overweight, normal strength.
I put on about 15-20lbs after starting TRT.
Pre TRT my TT was <100, primary hypogonadism from anatomical damage after post surgical complications.
Up until about 33 years old I was in absolute prime condition. Very high muscle build, very high strength, endurance, very responsive to dietary improvements and changes.
Currently rebuilding my entire life after wife of 24 years peaced out with some dude from work
My next task is adding strength training back into my routine and upping my cardio endurance.
