Im at my wits end with this and could greatly use some help. My libido and lack of erections have been off and on for over a year. Its to the point its depressing me and really effecting my mental health.
I cant get it up and if I do, it goes away as soon as I stop playing with it or stand up. Its very, very hard to even get an erection as well. I basically have a limp hot dog between my legs, feels dead and numb most of the time. pde5 only work sometimes
Weird thing is when I go off TRT i feel like my libido returns and my ED improves and I did not have issues with this before TRT.
I’m 35 now and started trt at 450 natural test - felt great the first year
started a low dose tren blast as a bump in my trt and feel like i never really recovered from that point on, when I went back to just trt, but that was maybe 2 years ago.
stats
35
6’2 200 lbs
workout daily
diet and eat right
10 % bf.
Dosage
500 HCG a week
20mg of cyponate ED
No ai
Thyroid Panel With TSH
TSH 3.220 NORMAL 0.450-4.500 uIU/mL 01
Thyroxine (T4) 4.4 LOW 4.5-12.0 ug/dL 01
T3 Uptake 30 NORMAL 24-39 % 01
Free Thyroxine Index 1.3 NORMAL 1.2-4.9
Dihydrotestosterone, LC/MS/MS
DIHYDROTESTOSTERONE, LC/MS/MS 124 HIGH 12-65 ng/dL
Test
TESTOSTERONE, FREE 302.5 HIGH 35.0-155.0 pg/mL
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MS 1330 HIGH 250-1100 ng/dL
ESTRADIOL 56 HIGH < OR = 39 pg/mL
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)
SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOBULIN 24 NORMAL 10-50 nmol/L
You may not have. Tren Dick is a thing. Google it. Sometimes when you play with fire well…
This is too much for you based on your results. Your body may not like the elevated hormone levels. It could be the tren metabolites. Lots of things. If it were me I would drop the HCG, reduce test dose to 15mg/day, run that for 6-8 weeks and DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE. See by END (not day 1-7) of 8 weeks if you feel any improvement.
The more i dive in, the more I see this as well. I had an amazing first year on then hit a switch and it has been horrible since trying to stabilize everything and get on track.
One day I’ll be ok and the next i’ll be lethargic, have libido issues and ED. I cant figure this out. Even tried AIs in case I was super sensitive and that doesnt seem to help either. Not sure what can cause my dick to just feel completely dead.
These are all potential reasons, yes, but there is something else going on. Unless everyone on TRT just stops eating well, sleeping, etc after being placed on it.
There is something being altered to cause libido to vanish. I’ve noticed that that blue balls feeling is gone with fooling around with a woman. I can make out all day and just feel as though i’m ok walking away without getting laid. Prior to TRT, that blue balls angst would be there.
Some other hormone or neurotransmitter seems to be out of whack once TRT is chosen.
You’re allowed to have partial damage to sexual function cause by tren. Tren is known to destroy sexual function in the near future.
You even say you never fully recovered from the tren blast, which is when your libido and ED problems started, but then say your problems aren’t from the tren blast.
It’s common to start having problems with libido and erections after discontinuing a tren blast.
There is more going on then a week of bad dieting and stress causing my ED, but I get what your saying. I’m fairly versed in the endocrine system. By no means a expert, but I do understand the systems and am not just half assing my protocols.
I’m not stopping and starting TRT. I stopped a year or so ago to see what would happen as I was so tired of not getting erections. I stopped for about 3 months, but came back on.
I have tried dosages from 80mg a week up to 150 mg week (about where these tests are now) Also, tried 2x week to EOD to ED now. My bloods dont scream to me anything out of wack. I know test is high and free test is high currently, but I’ve also tried just about everything in between as well, Ais no ais, hcg no hcg and etc. HELP ME
There may be something else going on. I think it’s important to not get tunnel-vision by trying to find a way to blame TRT for symptoms that are very general and do have a variety of potential causes. Lethargy, low libido, and ED issues could, for example, all be caused by an extended calorie-restricted diet, one that a guy who’s 6’1" and 10% bodyfat at 200 pounds might be on.
They’re not high. It’s objectively too high and well out of range. Gradually adjusting your protocol to get you actually within normal range would be the first step, after testing again for accurate numbers to see where you currently are.
Any chance you’re still competing? When was your last show?
Any chance you’re still competing? When was your last show?
I haven’t done a show or prep for maybe 4-5 years now so not on a huge calorie deficit or anything crazy. Even when I did I was very low dosages of gear and never did anything crazy.
No no and no, a couple cycles of tren wont do nothing. If u do it for years and years? Sure, but a few cycles of tren will not be the reason a mans libido is fucked forever.
And regarding ur last phase: YES, Its like once u inject testosterone BOOM, a switch goes off, turning off your sexdrive.
You can take proviron, tongkat ali, “do nofap”, “get some rest brah” or horny fucking goat weed, IT DOES NOT MATTER, because the SWITCH IS TURNED OFF, alright, doesnt matter what the fuck u do, something with the testosterone, the ester or fuck-knows-what simply switched off the libido. period.
Agreed. Quite frankly Im starting to get annoyed at all the people nagging bout “muh sleep, stress nutrition blablabla” as soon as someone mention shit libido on the boards.
Its just NOT THE FUCKING SLEEP, GOT IT? Its HORMONAL, alright, HORMONAL. Thats why you get a few days when you hit the “sweet spot” and the libido and erection comes back with a fucking vengeance, and then as you get away from this spot it all goes to hell again.
Christ, when ur hormones are optimized ur fucking sleep dont matter. When I was 18 years old I could sleep like a retard, eat poptards every day and my libido was out of control cause of hormones.
Anyway: OP, im the same, struggle alot with libido, not sure whats our problem, but take a look at ur estrogen it seems very high.
Whats ur prolactin levels? They will kill ur libido.
Everyone has their own tolerance to substances whether it’s smoking, caffeine, alcohol or steroids. Some men can abuse steroids and never have any problems, yet a first timer can experience difficulties on their first blast and never regain normal HPTA functionality.
@wonvry didn’t start having problems until he came off the tren blast. He has tried multiple TRT protocols and varying T levels and has had no change. He even says he never recovered from it.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
I know this probably isn’t what @wonvry wants to hear because it leads to no action and the only solution is to wait for the healing to begin which could take a while.
