[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
make sure you are doing a deloading week - [/quote]
That is a primary concern?
I don’t even have “deload weeks” nor do I even understand the term the way you seem to be using it.
How did this become a rule?
[quote]Who_Cares wrote:
Training goes like this - 6x3 with starting weigh of 70% of max, and raising up to 1RM of each exercise. I do only basic exercises like squatting, deadlifting, benching, weighted dips and chins etc.
Best lifts:
150kg deadlift
135kg. squat
60kg. millitary perss
97kg. bench.
p.s. Again, I don’t like what I wrote, cause that is not what I wanted to talk to you about. I just wanted to know if anyone ever bumped into the same wall like I do now. This forum is a kickas place with kickass dudes who know a thing or two about this.
p.s.#2 I AM taking it too seriously. Which is stupid and I want to forget about that for a while and just lift cause I like it, but old habbits die hard.
BTW I started as 55kg. fat kid. Yes, 55kg. FAT kid. Not 400lbs, but 55.kg[/quote]
Jeez dude, take a week or two off. Drink some beers with your friends. Go get laid. Just chill and let all your worries take a backseat for a while. When you feel like you want to be back in the gym(not that you should go back, but that you WANT to be back in there) then get back into the gym.
Reset your weight a small bit and maybe try a new training style(repetitive routines can make lifitng boring and chore-like).
Also, you say that you want to be able to just lift 'cos you like it. And (no offence) your lifts are pretty poor. What does this tell you…?
You already said you’re not training for the Olympia. Recognise that this is a hobby and not the measure of your worth.
Here is an offtopic question:
How do you calculate protein intake? Like, let’s say, 1 gram per each poind of bodyweigh, or 1 gram per ACTIVE weigh? Because when you are somewhere between 15 and 20 percent bodyfat, you don’t need that much protein. At least, that’s what I know. After all, the fats on your ass do not need nutrients. So let’s say you are bellow 5% bodyfat - than maybe it’s ok for you to take 1gr. of protein per each pound of bodyweigh, cause most of your weigh is muscle armor.
Im not giving a lesson, I am just asking if I’m right. And if I am, than my 4-5% BF are at 65-70kg. @ 5.4’ heigh, so I should calculate 70kg. x 2.5gr. protein, and not 85kg. x 2.5gr. protein.
p.s. I never thought that my lifts are big, but for just turned 17, I think they are at least decent?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I doubt you will ever make much more progress.
You really don’t want to.[/quote]
Wow, harsh call…
But the Prof is right here OP. The beauty about this however is that it is all dependent on your attitude. And attitudes can be changed.
Do you wanna prove somebody who says this to you right…?
Prof for Prez! I swear, I’ve learned more just from reading his insults than from years of reading magazines. And he’s way more inspirational.
OP, You’re overthinking it. Grab something heavy, lift it, repeat. Then have a pizza. Done.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I’m putting my nice boy typing gloves on…
Your diet: The part that stands out is “150-200 grams of protein” per day. That ain’t gonna get you anywhere man. And you most likely are getting less protein than you think and more carbs than you think, those are the problems most people have.
Your training: You have low lifts, so naturally you don’t have a muscular physique. Stop being fucking paranoid about getting “too big”, whatever the hell that is. Nobody has unintentionally gotten stronger than they wanted. Many people unintentionally remain smaller than they want. So pick your poison. I dare you to make your bench 100 lbs higher, and DL and Squat 150-200 lbs higher each, while increasing protein and keeping carbs the same, or cutting back a little on carbs. Then come back to us a year or 2 later, having done that, and we’ll see where you’re at. [/quote]
Funny - Funny because I’m in the gym this morning and I see this Ghey azz trainer working out. He’s all of 160lbs 6’ tall and skinny fat. He’s doing a workout that I would only recommend be done in the womens fitness area. I just looked, shook my head and giggled.
Op - if you want to grow, eat seriously and lift the same.
OP,
For a year and a half of college I stayed at 170 lbs because I was afraid to get fat. I was about 9% BF and thought I was strong with a 225 bench. I never ate enough to allow my body to do shit but stay stuck where I was. I finally decided that I might as well have a tangible goal, so I told myself I wanted to get up to 200lbs while being acceptably (to me) lean (somewhere in the teens). So from that point on I was in the mode of gaining weight all the time, with a few weeks every couple months where I’d clean up the diet and keep the body fat in check. As of today, 2 years later, the scale says 200 at ~13% BF, and this week i benched 300 for 3 sets of 3 relatively easily. Once you get over whatever hump you’re stuck on and decide to do something and actually go for it, you’ll feel a hell of a lot better.
OP,
For a year and a half of college I stayed at 170 lbs because I was afraid to get fat. I was about 9% BF and thought I was strong with a 225 bench. I never ate enough to allow my body to do shit but stay stuck where I was. I finally decided that I might as well have a tangible goal, so I told myself I wanted to get up to 200lbs while being acceptably (to me) lean (somewhere in the teens). So from that point on I was in the mode of gaining weight all the time, with a few weeks every couple months where I’d clean up the diet and keep the body fat in check. As of today, 2 years later, the scale says 200 at ~13% BF, and this week i benched 300 for 3 sets of 3 relatively easily. Once you get over whatever hump you’re stuck on and decide to do something and actually go for it, you’ll feel a hell of a lot better.
Edit: Sorry bout the double post, “borrowed” internet connection rebooted halfway through
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
None of us are Superman… [/quote]
Says the man in the cape… Hey Ohhhh!
OP
Don’t come back on here calling people “internet tough guys” or what have you. Look at the guys who’ve been here awhile, read how they post, act similarly.
In regards to your original post, the rule is every action (your whiny emo post) has an equal reaction in an opposite direction (you getting flamed for being a little bitch).
It’s a Law dude.
Like everyone else is saying, for now, pick up something heavy, put it down, repeat, then eat.
Oh and keep the term “Iron Warrior” out of your lexicon.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
make sure you are doing a deloading week - [/quote]
That is a primary concern?
I don’t even have “deload weeks” nor do I even understand the term the way you seem to be using it.
How did this become a rule?[/quote]
you dont take a break from training, ever?
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
make sure you are doing a deloading week - [/quote]
That is a primary concern?
I don’t even have “deload weeks” nor do I even understand the term the way you seem to be using it.
How did this become a rule?[/quote]
you dont take a break from training, ever?
http://www.elitefts.com/documents/deload.htm[/quote]
That is what rest days are for. No, I do not take breaks because I am not training like a bodybuilder getting contest ready. If my training was that draining on the body, mind and even hormones, then taking a break would make sense after the contest.
I mean, what the fuck, most of you here are NOT training that damned hard and you know it. We have guys who literally thought steroids were needed to bench press 405lbs as a one rep max yet you fuckers are PLANNING weeks off?
Weeks off from what?
I’ve seen maybe 10 people in the past 5 years in the kind of physical condition that would warrant this yet all of you fuckers are just such advanced athletes.
Please.
x, i know most people on here arent training hard enough for a deloading week, but the question at hand from the OP was if we had ever felt tired of lifting. maybe a deloading week is just what he needs to feel fresh. he seems like he has been hitting the weight more or less non stop for quite some time, except for this recent break. we all have days we dread going into the gym, and the usual answer is eat some food, sack up, and move some weight - but sometimes doing a few deload days could be more rejuvenating depending on the persons intensity.
some people benefit from a deleoading week, or deloading day, some people dont get any benefit from it and would be better off either working out hard or just taking an extra rest day
trust me, im not preaching here. just giving an inexperience guy an alternative if he feels he has hit a wall. maybe ‘make sure youre taking a deload week’ wasnt worded the way it should have been.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is what rest days are for. No, I do not take breaks because I am not training like a bodybuilder getting contest ready. If my training was that draining on the body, mind and even hormones, then taking a break would make sense after the contest.
I mean, what the fuck, most of you here are NOT training that damned hard and you know it. We have guys who literally thought steroids were needed to bench press 405lbs as a one rep max yet you fuckers are PLANNING weeks off?
Weeks off from what?
I’ve seen maybe 10 people in the past 5 years in the kind of physical condition that would warrant this yet all of you fuckers are just such advanced athletes.
Please.
[/quote]
To be fair, not everyone thinks like this.
I’m a big believer in the saying(I can’t remember who said it now, dammit)-‘‘there’s no such thing as over training, just under eating and under sleeping’’.
If I ever take weeks off it’s because I feel drained from other pursuits and/or happenings in my life and I need to put lifting on the back back burner for a while. It’s only happened me once and I was really dying to get back in the gym by the time that week was over.
Deload weeks will be handy for some people, and they won’t for others.
I’d wager they are more for a mental rest then anything else though.
Here’s how you fix this problem:
- Put kettle on.
- Make a very strong cup of coffee. Drink it.
- Make another strong cup of coffee, if you can drink it without gagging then add more coffee/sugar. Drink it all.
- Metal/Rap/Techno/Light Jazz. Make sure it’s loud.
- Deadlifts (none of that 6*3 stuff, ramp up to 1 heavy single). Pull an easy PR, grunting and screaming are a complete necessity. Hold it and feel how awesome you are. Optional second yell at this point.
- Fall in love with lifting all over again.
If this doesn’t work then I think you’re boned 
I think there is confusion on what a deload is vs a break.
Right now, I’m lifting lighter weight because of elbow tendinitis (not becuase I’m overtrained). Next week, I’m taking a break for a few days because I’m tired of getting up at 3 am.
FYI - you won’t see any forums asking you all why my progress has stagnated or telling you that I’m bored with lifting.
To add to what I said earlier, the only time I was not motivated to hit the gym was when I had no clearly defined goals. I was just going to “work out”…aka going through the motions. Once I set new goals for myself, never had the problem again.
Look dude, you are way overcomplicating and way over-dramatizing this whole situation. A lot of people in here are offering you good advice. Tough love, man. You gotta check your ego at the door (of this thread), sack up, and get ready to take some verbal abuse because frankly, all of your posts reek of a guy who is being a pussy, and overcomplicating something that is actually VERY simple.
You made sure to point out that you “only do big compound lifts” (paraphrasing) in your training post… well if you want to look better, sometimes you have to ISOLATE the muscle. What a concept, right? I was stuck in your shoes for maybe 6 months to a year (and have paid for it), but my lifts were still better than yours by the end of this period (and I was 18-19, so no excuses with the age bs). Your training with the ratios and percentages makes me cringe. I have NO idea wtf “60% of my 1RM” is (yes I can figure it out, but I don’t care). I know roughly what I can lift once. So what? Sometimes, I will go in and try and beat that. Usually though, because my goals are to get BIG and STRONG as fuck, I go in there, warm up thoroughly, and pick a weight I can move somewhere between 3 and 12 times, and go balls out and move that shit. I usually have a partner, and he helps me get some forced reps on different exercises. Intensity man. It’s NOT about analyzing everything!
Figure out wtf your goals are. Your post about ‘goals changing and being small blahblahblah’ made me sick, even after your clarification. What the fuck do you want out of this? Do you want to have the biggest big 3 total possible? Do you want to be big and strong and carry stones and flip tires? Or just be big and strong and not do that shit? Do you wanna look good at the pool, naked? Do you want to impress the opposite sex? Do you want to step on stage and be a competitive bodybuilder? FIGURE IT OUT. Jesus H Christ man, figure it out.
Regarding diet… ugh, again with the percentages and “how do I figure X out?”. Dude are you fucking kidding me. I don’t remember what you weigh, but I’m gonna pretend you’re a soft 190lbs. Your lifts need to come up. More important, your lifts for reps need to come up, How should you go about doing this? Well, take from what I wrote above, but you need to be eating to support this growth. <200g protein a day? are you a 100lbs girl? AT THE VERY LEAST you should be getting 350+ a day, and if you’re over 200lbs, preferably over 400g. Figure out how your body responds to carbs and fats, find the balance, and stick with it and GROW. But more fucking protein.
God damn dude.
Bug’s post makes me very fappy.
[quote]josh86 wrote:
Bug’s post makes me very fappy. [/quote]
x2
We’re like the mafia of iron <3
I’ve lifted weights for almost 30 years. Twice I got so big that people didn’t recognize me and thought I was on steriods. Funny thing, I felt uncomfortable with all of the muscle–too bulky. Ultimately, both times, I ended up with serious injuries when I pushed across my limits. I am on my way now to my third (and given my age) likely last push towards the threshold of my bodily limits. This time, of course, I’m stopping short of that limit–too old now to waste a couple of years recovering from an injury. Do I tire of this struggle to stay strong and in shape, especially when most of my generation are reconciling themselves to late middle age, disability, limitations, and chronic illness? Hell, yeah. But I can’t stop. I cannot comprehend ever not thinking of my next workout, or what my next lifting goal will be. Maybe its in the genes. I guess my destiny is to be that old guy in the gym who looks like shit now but who comes in every day, works out like hell, and who walks out happier than he came in, thinking about the possibilities of tomorrow’s workout.