“Tough love” - believe it or not, this is what I came here for. Because strong words may hurt like a punch in the face, but it seems it does the trick. Pretty well actually.
Bug, I like you. 
I guess I should thank you. And not just you.
So now I look like the naive newbie whose questions annoy everyone who have walked in those shoes and already figured it out, but that’s ok. To me anyway.
You did your job, from now on it’s up to me and me only. Thank you.
Holy shit you dumb piece of shit people are getting laid off, people are dieing; theres crime, rape, cancer, the loss of freedom (just to name a few) and you’re sitting here on you’re computer screen bitching on the internet about how you cant be motivated to get your fat ass to the gym?
Everyone on here is right, you are a pussy. Your last post (the one above this) sounds like you’re prepping yourself to go into your first round of chemo. Listen, I applaud you for realizing that you’re wasting time here and its plain obvious that you need some kind of support (which you got) but just man up now and get things done.
You need to think less, and lift more.
I’ve wasted hours, trying to analyze and make perfect programs, or when I’m lifting write everything down.
Now, if I don’t feel like doing that, I just go in and do what feels right. It will come together, just don’t over think it.
@big ass cash avatar guy - Yes, I bitch. But that is me - my own problem. Not yours, mine.
I’m not preparing for an iron journey of manhood due my moment of passionate enlignetnment, as it sounded in the way you put it in. It doesn’t matter what names you call me, I said what I said and I’m not sorry.
Directions I needed, directions guys here gave me. It’s not the most pleasurable moment reading “get the sand out of your vagina and man up pussy”, but it made me see the obvious, which I couldn’t see by miself. But what’s done is done. It may look like whatever you want to call it, but it helped me. So it doesn’t really matter how I look like to you.
p.s. Saying “thak you” does not make you a pussy. It makes you polite. I have no right to be rude in this thread, tho I was.
Sure. That’s why I take off a few weeks every now and then. It won’t kill you and you will come back better for it.
I probably miss about 4 weeks of training a year. Two around the holidays and at least two in the summer.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Sure. That’s why I take off a few weeks every now and then. It won’t kill you and you will come back better for it.
I probably miss about 4 weeks of training a year. Two around the holidays and at least two in the summer.[/quote]
How do you look?
Hedo, I respect you and you’ve been here for a long time…but are the guys this laid back about their training making the same progress as those who aren’t?
Just wondering.
You said it yourself - everyone gets to a point wher they actually want to be, because if they would want to go any further, they would have put more effort.
Also, not everyone want to go as far as you want to, Prof.
[quote]Who_Cares wrote:
You said it yourself - everyone gets to a point wher they actually want to be, because if they would want to go any further, they would have put more effort.
Also, not everyone want to go as far as you want to, Prof.[/quote]
What does that have to do with anything? You have not reached your own goals yet so why would your strategy be any different than other serious lifters who work hard?
I asked how he looks because if he isn’t very built, maybe you shouldn’t be listening to him about taking time off unless you want to look like him.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t want to be as big as me. The same method still works.
This nonsense where some of you have convinced yourselves that you need to train completely differently than guys bigger than you want to be needs to fucking stop because it makes no sense.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What does that have to do with anything? You have not reached your own goals yet so why would your strategy be any different than other serious lifters who work hard?
I asked how he looks because if he isn’t very built, maybe you shouldn’t be listening to him about taking time off unless you want to look like him.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t want to be as big as me. The same method still works.
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Ok, so maybe the strategy is the same, no matter if it comes to me or you, but if my bar is not as high as yours and I’m OK to look like the guy I’m not supposed to listen to and taking a break works for me, than why I shouldn’t take a break? Things aren’t all that alike.
Anywho, I understand now why I actually got tired of lifting. Because my motives back when I posted the thread were different than they are now.
[quote]Who_Cares wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What does that have to do with anything? You have not reached your own goals yet so why would your strategy be any different than other serious lifters who work hard?
I asked how he looks because if he isn’t very built, maybe you shouldn’t be listening to him about taking time off unless you want to look like him.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t want to be as big as me. The same method still works.
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Ok, so maybe the strategy is the same, no matter if it comes to me or you, but if my bar is not as high as yours and I’m OK to look like the guy I’m not supposed to listen to and taking a break works for me, than why I shouldn’t take a break?
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You don’t know what he looks like…which is the point. If he is 400lbs and obese, you still plan on following his advice?
I understand english may not be your first language though.
Reletevly good was what I meant to say that I am happy with. Which was what I thought he might look like.
To you a strategy was meant to be mindset in the way you said it? To charge a goal, beginner or pro, they both do that. And if that is the strategy you talk about that everyone uses, than yes you’re right.
But back, way back to the very first question of the topic - I understood my problem and I said that. It was the motives I used. I was overacting with the whole lifting stuff and my world, what is the opposite word of expanded? Cause that’s what happened. I started thinking in one direction only while all I had to do was make it as simple as possible, because in this sport things can be very complicated, but nobody said that thing can and will work out if you make it as simple as “do it” while enjoying the rest of the little things out there.
OP, if you wanted to get a little faster, who do you think could help you achieve your goals better and more quickly, a world-class sprinter, or a high-school sprinter?
If you want to get a little bigger and leaner, who do you think can help you more, a pro BB, or johnny 6-pack at the gym?
Use your head. Those who have taken the sport farther can obviously help you out more…it shouldn’t even have to be said.
[quote]clockworkchad wrote:
make sure you are doing a deloading week - but taking a week off here and there for recovery wont kill you. your protien numbers do look low, and you didnt even mention how many cals you take a day, which makes me assume its very low as well. [/quote]
Deloding week or time off is the LAST thing he needs.
And does anyone actually even take deloding weeks?
Op vagisil is all you need.
Honestly bro you haven’t lifted in 130 hours you skipped a workout, you already lost. Feelings don’t mean shit I don’t eat cookies some times I want them bad and hell ya I’ve wanted to give up before sometimes you want to skip a workout. But you are WAY to easy on yourself I feel like that for ten minutes and say to myself suck it up you need vagisil or something. Then it’s gone and honestly it doesn’t take long intill it doesn’t come back. When you want to quit and you don’t thats when you get stronger and gain confidence you failed.
People think this shit. Like waaaa no it’s really hard for me or you don’t understand I am scared or whatever it may be. no your not that special it’s no different for anyone you want it enough or you don’t.
By the way, about the nickname - it’s “who cares about what my nickname is”…
A friend of mine tells me he really can’t get motivated to go to the gym, which is ironic because he is pretty fit/muscular etc… He spends an absolute TON on pre-workout supplements, and takes them so that he feels “obliged” to go and have a super intense workout to make them worth the money. A bit of a different approach from most, but it certainly works for him 
OP, I think this thread has run its course. I hope my advice can help you. Now go kick some ass.
[quote]Who_Cares wrote:
“Tough love” - believe it or not, this is what I came here for. Because strong words may hurt like a punch in the face, but it seems it does the trick. Pretty well actually.
Bug, I like you. I guess I should thank you. And not just you.
So now I look like the naive newbie whose questions annoy everyone who have walked in those shoes and already figured it out, but that’s ok. To me anyway.
You did your job, from now on it’s up to me and me only. Thank you.[/quote]
END THIS!!!
OP,
I am also of the opinion that taking a break is bad for guys like you - it gets you out of the groove and its generally a bad habit for most that are not genetic freaks of some sort or training extremely intense, plus for some it gets harder to go back the longer they stay away.
And it is important to approach your goal of however many pounds of muscle you want to gain with more intensity - with all the fat you need to lose I would be surprised if you will reach it sooner than 2011 anyway, besides with success there will be new goals sooner than you think.
If you do not know how to go about your training which obviously you don’t have a look at the thread “The Bodybuilding Bible” and some threads by guys like Cc, Modok and Prof X.
You will probably be able to see a pattern in all these threads as all of these posters/threads, all recommendations say:
Train hard(er)
don’t overcomplicate stuff
don’t skip meals
Up protein to at least 300 grams - and make sure these really are 300 grams
Don’t try to get by on compound movements alone
I have put some effort into training and all the other stuff and have seen very nice results (for me) in the last 8 months so I suggest you give it a try, too.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
To add to what I said earlier, the only time I was not motivated to hit the gym was when I had no clearly defined goals. I was just going to “work out”…aka going through the motions. Once I set new goals for myself, never had the problem again. [/quote]
This.
Stop working out and start training. Problem solved.
If you want to of course, if not take up another hobby?
Gosh, I thought this thread died.
By the way I started visiting the strongman gym since my last post here. It’s the only one in my city that have trainers for strongman. I still go and you know what? I love it. I don’t know how long it will last, but hell, it’s heavy with purpose and I like what I do now, so I will just keep on doing it. No questons asked.