I’m so confused about what this thread is about though lol. I don’t want to go through nearly 800 posts (some of which are long as hell). So can someone please give me a cliffnotes version?
Original thread intention: Happy marriages/relationships
What’s actually going on: Greenboy vs. Everyone else
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All you gotta do is ask and I’ll fire over a headless, fully-clothed picture of someone I don’t know to your e-mail address. That’s how this works isn’t it?
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You must be the most popular guy on the planet 
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Seriously? Me? I don’t think calling you whiny is passive-aggressive. Nor offering that if your behavior was worthy of respect, I would offer respect. When I said that you can’t kick and scratch at people, as you’re doing now, and expect them not to respond with scorn (which I feel now), that was the farthest thing from passive-aggressive. It’s simply the truth, plainly stated.
I wonder how many other people feel I’ve talked to them like they’re my children? Maybe @anna_5588. I feel protective over her (it’s the internet! don’t be so friendly!). @liftangryordie500? Maybe, but I don’t think so. @anon50325502, do you feel like a scolded child when I talk to you? Here, try this: I disagree with your stance on health care policy. (If I’m guessing correctly what your stance is.) In fact, I oppose your position vigorously! (Do you feel like a child now? Do you feel like I feel like you’re a child?)
No, I would say that if people find me…off…it would be something closer to bristly. I think @planetcybertron may have found me bristly a couple of days ago, but that’s really just me short on time and trying to get whatever point across. Oh, I remember…“necessary for evil is good men do nothing.” I get this cool polite tone in disagreement, and am not sure how to soften it if I don’t really “know” the other poster, especially if there are time constraints.
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Do you really think he’s going to be able to comprehend your post?
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I wouldn’t be able to do the work I do if I didn’t come equipped with seemingly limitless optimism.
To finally weigh in on the article…
Years ago I was offered a job at a locked residential place for teen boys. Some of them were awaiting placement in juvie, some hadn’t been safe in foster care -runaways, drug use - and the state was trying to figure out what next. Anyway, I was between undergraduate and graduate school and had young kids at home and decided not to take the job because the person interviewing me said that the boys saw female workers in only one of two ways: they either sexualized the worker or labeled her a bitch. I didn’t take the job because I was afraid it would change me too much. That I would become hardened.
Anyway, it popped into my head a couple of days ago after a rough week at work because I was thinking (as I do occasionally) that maybe this work - these terrible horrifying stories - are going to destroy me over time. Anyway, that job at the residential place came to mind with its sex-object-vs-bitch categorizing of women, and as I thought about it it occurred to me that THIS is the black and white attitude taken by a lot of this literature and the people who uphold it. Women, being hypergamous, are not capable of loyalty; devotion; commitment. They need leadership. They are receptacles for men’s thoughts, desires, and seed. Women who are not following men, who are not gratefully receiving (but not too much, because slut!), are “feminists” and thus bad.
I think we can do better than “either receptacle or bitch.” I think you DO do better, @BrickHead.
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If you’re not going to read what I wrote in my very long and honest attempt to reply to @BrickHead than fuck off.
Did you even read it?
USMC can’t research, GTFO. You’re ability to read is questionable.
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Thanks! While I do believe many women are hypergamous, I highly disagree with authors and men who say women are incapable of devotion, commitment, and loyalty. And of course some men are hypergamous. Like, how many men would turn down marrying into a rich and powerful family?
I don’t think hypergamy in itself is inherently bad at all. We’re designed for it. It can and has backfired on people if left unrestrained.
I absolutely don’t look at women as mere sex objects and I’m not fond of the hypersexualizaton of women in the current day. But I do think both men and women ideally should be receptacles of knowledge and guidance from their fathers provided they aren’t airheads. I’ve already discussed my experiences of growing up around boys and girls about whom one would wander (especially me being a parent now to a boy and girl) what kind of parenting they received.
Hence, I previously mentioned the film Kids. The film is fictional but it represented urban reality in 1990’s NYC. You know the character Telly? Well, I knew a few real life Telly’s. The character sure didn’t have a problem attracting young women and neither did the real life man I refer to. That is the sort of man I know is out there. The man might be “hot” and “have an edge” and popular, or any other quality attractive to a young woman. In that example, yes, I do believe male family members should insert their knowledge and thoughts.
As said, time is not allowing me to post in-depth posts. And I plan on responding to the thread you made later during the week on an off day.
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This is one of the areas in the the blog I thought was confusing. I took hypergamous to mean what you just wrote, dating/marrying upward. Right? Which makes sense. No issue there, but the way the author kept using it I got the impression he meant that women have a biological drive to consistently be hypergamous even when in a relationship already. Meaning, they would try to increase their station by marrying upward, then divorcing and moving upward, so on and so forth. Like women in general have this drive to climb the social ladder so to speak.
That has not been my experience at all. With the exception on a handful of high profile examples, I think women do pretty much the opposite, marry for their definition of love and I think a lot of divorce comes from the end of the honeymoon period, if you will, and you actually see the person for who they really are.
Mine either. I think a lot of what GB and others associate with general gender traits are what JBP describes, in that video I posted, as ‘grown children’. Most of societal issues can be attributed to that.
A recent example, one of my kids told us, after quite awhile of discussion, that if they don’t get what they want, then they should pout and lie (over-exaggerate needs) until it becomes so inconvenient (my words) that the adult has to negotiate a remedy to have quiet. This learned behavior doesn’t stop at childhood. I’ve had, and possibly have, employees who pull this same shit.
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I saw this thread a few weeks ago, chuckled, and moved on.
Have been very surprised to see it continue, browsing through it has been interesting and entertaining (haven’t read all of it though sorry).
Anyway I can no longer resist and just want to say one thing:
I have an extremely happy, rock-solid marriage; 3 kids; 10th anniversary will be this year; our disagreements are civil and never result in raised voices or devolve into petty arguments, name-calling, or childish behavior; we spend more time around each other than around anyone else, and prefer each other’s company to the company of others.
FWIW the sex is more intense the past year or two, but without it we would still be the same close couple.
No amount of potential single “fun” would convince either of us to throw away the life we had built for a “roll in the hay” as someone here noted previously.
And she’s smokin’ hot FWIW, but again I feel our relationship goes waay beyond the physical.
That’s it!
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you love getting egg on your face don’t you? Respond to the link about actual wedding costs… even if the Kan wasn’t talking about before modern times you’re still wrong.
I responded to almost every ridiculous and stupid point you made. Especially that one about the kitchen appliances… it doesn’t take a genius to realize “hmm yeah that technological advance probably did help a lot of women”
Even if it weren’t somehow true, which it actually is, it’s not incomprehensible that it could be true yet you laughed at it like it was an absurd statement. You didn’t even bother researching it… that’s how I know you don’t know what you’re doing.
I’ll admit I have a problem. I feel like there should be a level of comprehension that maybe I afford to too many people. For example, when I state “this movie sucked” why the fuck do I have to honestly preface that with “in my opinion” isn’t it implied that it’s my opinion?
Same thing here, why do I have etc say “this isn’t to say men aren’t passive aggressive” of COURSE there’s going to be passive aggressive men. Or how about this one that I actually had to deal with - “women don’t play football”
some fucking idiot came back “what are you talking about bro there’s women that play football” my godddddddddd yeah what’s the percentage of that? is it enough to say that really women do in fact play football? it’s absurd. Would you talk like this in real life? I don’t think so, but it’s something about words on a page that change the way people perceive things.
Seems like some people tackle forum posts, a format in which is open conversation more like a scientific paper that must be carefully worded, analyzed, and presented. Only @usmccds423 has time for that
I wish people would throw egg on my face.
Easy calories!
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Dude, I’m not. The link you provided is the same link I provided. Learn to read. Fuck, you are dumb.
No where did I say technology didn’t save time on household chorus. Again, you’re an idiot.
I laughed because there is a 0% chance technology has reduced household chores to an hour or less a day. Anyone that has an actual household will also find that claim HILARIOUS.
Learn to read
Claims no one wants to debate the points of the blog. Complains when a person takes the time to debate the points of the blog. Complains when people pick one or two small things to try and discredit a long blog post. Picks one or two small things to try and discredit a long response to said blog post. Ridiculous.
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You mean use evidence to back up a point when someone argues against it? Mate, nearly everyone on here except you manages to do that. Again, perhaps it’s you who’s the problem and not everyone else on here, just a thought…
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Fucking Lolz.
Please have the last word, though. I’m done, twat.
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All you seem to do on this forum is bitch about everyone else on here. Just fuck off if it’s that bad? You’re clearly not enjoying posting on here, find something else to do with your time perhaps?
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You didn’t read your own link then. It’s more expensive now than before, and he is clearly talking about a time before the explosion of wedding culture. I"m not talking about where or what the engagement ring is for, came about, etc. Harp on that if you want.
No where did I say technology didn’t save time on household chorus. Again, you’re an idiot.
You made the claim that he was absurd to suggest technological advances was the primary reason women were able to enter the workforce vs what feminists say. That was the point he was making and you thought it was crazy.
I laughed because there is a 0% chance technology has reduced household chores to an hour or less a day. Anyone that has an actual household will also find that claim HILARIOUS.
um, ok? are you going to put this to the test and start seeing how long it takes various people to do chores in apartments, condos, houses, etc? lol ok buddy
Claims no one wants to debate the points of the blog. Complains when a person takes the time to debate the points of the blog. Complains when people pick one or two small things to try and discredit a long blog post. Picks one or two small things to try and discredit a long response to said blog post. Ridiculous.
Apparently the only one that is able to give their bullshit opinion is you, and I have to back it all up with link warfare.
Tell us again how no one considers circumcision genital mutilation just because you said so.
EDIT: you should have responded to his most recent essay since all the links are up.
you got a chuckle out of me today. thank you.
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